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Odyssey 2003
MSRP Invoice TMV
27,360 $24,663 $26,615
Base Engine Type: V6 Horsepower: 240 hp
Max Horsepower: 5500 rpm, Torque: 242 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 4500 rpm Maximum Towing Capacity: 3500 lbs.
Turning Circle: 37.7 ft.
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Sienna 2004
with BW package #7
MSRP Invoice TMV
$27,665 $24,707 $27,665
Base Engine Type: V6 Horsepower: 230 hp
Max Horsepower: 5600 rpm, Torque: 242 ft-lbs.
Max Torque: 3600 rpm Maximum Payload: 1570 lbs.
Maximum Towing Capacity: 3500 lbs
Turning Circle: 36.8 ft.
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Quest 2004
$27,000-$33,000
Base Engine Type: V6 Horsepower: 240 hp
Max Horsepower: 5,800 rpm, Torque: 242 @ 4,400 rpm
Maximum Engine Speed 6,500 RPM
Maximum Towing Capacity: 3500 lbs
Turning Circle: ??.? ft.
stupid too. Normally, with the same level
features, Nissan Quest should be $750 dollar
cheaper than Honda Oddy, and $1500 cheaper than
Toyota Sienna. If Quest don't put such kind
price tag, who will buy Nissan Quest? I believe
Nissan know this if Nissan try to sale about 80K
Quest per year. Quest Style may attract 24K buyers, Nissan Loyal another 24K buyers. What
other 32K buyers come from? they comes as value-based
customers.
http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/manufacturing/color/canton_q- uest_11.jpg
I may just nagging, very likely I'll buy Quest 2004,
because of very possible
"car-like ride"/equipment/price.
Steve, Host
The 4sp. auto in the S is rated 19/26, but the 5sp auto in the SE is rated 18/25? Shouldnt the extra ratio offer SOME fuel savings?
Also, wasnt there initially much talk about offering greater value that comparable Siennas? It sure doesnt look that way now. It will be interesting when pricing is released to compare similarly equipped Quests, Siennas, and Odys.
Throacic side airbags are standard on SE, optional on SL and unavailable in S? The side curtains as standard is definitely a step forward, but not making thoracic bags even optional on the S seems like a step backward. Side impacts are the deadliest due to significant chance of head and chest trauma.
~alpha
Looks like the skyview roof is only on the SE
Well, some Volvos and BMWs were delayed from a ship sinking in a channel a while back, but the new Quest is made in Canton, Mississippi. Why would a hailstorm in the adjoining state affect delivery? Are they making body panels in Smyrna like they did for my '99 Quest?
Nothing pops right up on a net search either. Curious...
Steve, Host
Jeeze, I hate giving dealers the benefit of the doubt :-)
Steve, Host
~alpha
Steve, Host
2.)But Minivan is roomy (more material), have more seats, could have lot of features(automatic doors, zone climate, VSR or DVD options), could have much better safety. So, minivan is for urban family, who is pretty practical and picky.
3.)I don't know much about SUVs, because I don't own any. But I don't like ruff ride, very big fuel consuming by SUVs. Originally they were designed for off-road, we (our family) are spending on asphalt pavement about 99.99% of driving-riding-time.
4.) I think most of it is about "coolness" and trend. Do I care? No. Is any minivan ugly? No, it's just what other are thinking and telling. I'll buy great durable automobile, with 200+ hp for fun ride, safe for me and my family, and will drive it until it will start to sprawl apart (10-12 years). Am I stupid?
First Drive: 2004 Nissan Quest
Steve, Host
http://www.canadiandriver.com/firstdrives.htm
another review with some more pics.
Thanks for advices and good info on this site.
I saved good money.
1.)
Spent Saturday night reading "Confessions of a Car Salesman " at http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/articles/42962/article.html?- tid=edmunds.a.landing.buying..4.*
then yesterday morning, 5 min before they opened doors, came to dealership with confidence to not overpay.
2.)
Took Edmunds Price estimate printout with Invoice numbers and TMV price,
and Local newspaper with other dealer advertisement with "Fathers Day Sale for Invoice offer".
3.)
I told sales person, that I will buy car from him and only him today and immideatelly if he will sell it to me $800 over INVOICE. (I gave $1000 over invoice limit to myself) . It took 4 hours to convince him. But I got it for $840 over Invoice.
Why did I go for Odyssey instead of Sienna 2004 or Quest 2004?
1.)
I didn't have time and patience to wait for Quest 2004. Also I didn't like some spec details, like 5.8inch ground-clearance, only one power door for 3.5SL package. And wasn't sure in quality of fresh new model, which didn't have years of testing buy other customers.
2.)
I did test drive Sienna 2004 LE, and Odyssey 2003 EX , and liked Odyssey more in handling. Also I knew that with Ody will get extra power door, and power seat, also will be able to negotiate good price with dealer.
Congrats on the new van St_pu.
Steve, Host
Steve, Host
http://autos.msn.com/advice/standardart.aspx?contentid=4021942&am- p;src=EdCp&pos=Edit1
I think first impressions is one reason people give us grief everytime we "update" Town Hall too :-)
Steve, Host
So, so .. If I buy the SE trim and load it with dual screen DVD, Nav system the MSRP would top at :
$32990 + $5550 + $2700 = $41240 (WoW!)
Alrighty, so I decide to go one trim lower (SL) and load it with leather pkg, single screen DVD, Nav system + 6-CD changer:
$27090 + $3550 + $700 + $6400 = $37740 (Hmmmmm!)
The S trim allows only a upgrade to 16" alloys + sonar and/or single screen DVD i.e. $24590 + $1000 + $700 = $26290.
But, do I really want to go for a S trim when I can shop the competition and get more for the same price ??? Well, unless Nissan dealers are immediately going to start with rebates et al, I don't see why people would want to buy the new Quest. Anyone ?
We'll be looking at the Quest SL this weekend, but with only one power slider, I doubt it makes the final cut. Now, let's hope the arrival of the quest makes the Sienna a more negotiable purchase.
Anybody find Canadian pricing yet?
As I told before, I'm out of waiting.
Just bought default cloth Odyssey EX for 25,477 with destination (dual power doors, power driver seat, security, climate control, immobilaiser, alloy wheels).
I didn't like Sienna 2004 during test drive(my personal opinion), and decided to go with well known Odyssey, which had years of testing by customers.
I am sure Quest will be great minivan, but didn't want to spend much more for new, unknown model.
I have to believe the $700 for single DVD and $5500 for dual on the HTML page is a mistake.
Same for Navi - correct pricing seems to be $2000 on SE and $2300 on FL (includes 6 cd changer) versus $2700 and $6400 on the HTML page.
Leather - $1500 on download page, $3550 on HTML.
Etc...
Man I hope these folks build a better van than they do a web site!
Dave
Also, the quest has the incredible moon roofs which is why I put it in the running.
And sonar back up feature.
Is there any way anyone knows to up the mpg even a bit on these things? The 4-speed gets 1 mpg better and is less expensive, but if the 5-speed proves as much better to drive as it seems, then the 1 mpg isn't worth the difference...but isn't there something *someone* can do about this??! Or that we can do, aftermarket?
*sigh* another perfect car blown--I'm a college-educated (actually two advanced degrees) mom between 35 and 45, and I good driving and I WANT GOOD MPG TOO! I know it's possible. They just don't think it's a priority.
thanks in advance
Steve, Host
You know, though, when we had a big ol' '90 Buick LeSabre (before the fish emulsion opened in the trunk and we donated the car), we could get, and I'm not kidding, 40mpg on the highway on a regular basis as long as we stayed bet. 70-80. Any slower and it went down drastically.
But right now we're doing mostly city (I think I read in an earlier post you said that most of your driving is done betwen 0-30? LOL same here) except for the occasional trip out of town and I am so seriously looking for a relatively fun-to-drive (read 6 cyl, good torque) car with definitely over 20 mpg *in town*, lots of rear leg room (rules out the Forester Turbo for us), some cargo space, and good suspension, and relatively good noise blockage (the roads here are strangely loud). We could wait for the Legacy Turbo...but for us the Subaru seats have never been that great, although I've read here that there will be a general redesign for the 2005 model year, although that's longer than we wanted to wait...Any other thoughts/suggestions?