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Also are the warranties transferable to the next owner.
Thanks,
First time Honda owner.
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/hondacare/warranty.htm
http://www.jayhondacare.com
http://www.curryhondacare.com
http://www.griffithhondacare.com/HondaCareMain/HondaCare_Start.cfm
Yes, it can be transferred one time to a new owner for a $50 service charge. It is also pro-rated refunded should your car be stolen or totalled or should you trade it in.
Because of the pro-rated refund I always advise folks to wait until just before 24 months/24k miles to buy - the price is the same and you will get back more of your money if you ever do cancel.
Dennis
i asked her to send the quote, took the printout to my dealer and he matched it. if your dealer dont match, dont worry you can take it from the pohanka and it will be valid everywhere...
anu_shri
described as an "environmental" package. We keep our vehicles a long time, so
believe this sounds like a good opportunity to help keep the Odyssey clean and like new for quite a while.
Is anyone familiar with this? Thanks.
New Honda Odyssey owner
If you have cloth interior you can Scotch Guard it yourself (or pay a small shop to do it) for a fraction of the cost. If you got leather, just get some Lexol cleaner and conditioner to keep the leather clean and "healthy".
For the exterior frequent hand washings and a hand wax a couple of times a year and you will be fine. Even if you pay a detailer to do the wax it is not that expensive. A guy comes to our office and does the cars right on the lot - $25-30 for cleaning inside and out and $60-80 for a cleaning and wax.
Dennis
I was told at one time that this is based on the date YOU PURCHASE the warranty and not the date you purchase the CAR. If you call HC customer service most of the folks will tell you that it is when the car was purchased. This is just not correct. They plug your info into their computer and it gives them back a quote - what you paid, the percentage you get back, and a dollar figure which is (what you paid * percentage you get back) - $25 cancel fee.
Since I traded a car in this weekend I called to cancel my HC warranty. Even though the C/S rep didn't UNDERSTAND how it worked nor could she EXPLAIN the numbers - they work out to what I have been telling everyone: buy late, get more back.
In my case the in-service date of the car was 03/26/2001, on 03/18/2003 I purchased a 7yr/75k/$0 HC warranty for $825 - this warranty would run through 03/26/2008. My cancel date was 06/26/2005.
The warranty was to run 2,557 days - if purchased on the day the car went into service. There are 1,553 days between in-service and cancel dates. So by what the C/S rep SAID:
1,553 / 2,557 * 100.0 = 60.7% of the warranty used or a 39.3% refund.
$825 * 0.393 - $25 = $299.25 refunded
If you figure the number of days between the end date of the warranty (03/26/2008) and the purchase date (03/18/2003) you get 1,835 days. Now figure the number of days I "used" the HC warranty (03/18/2003 to 06/26/2005) = 832.
831 / 1,835 * 100.0 = 45.3% of the warranty used or a 54.7% refund.
No matter what the C/S rep SAID - her computer told her to tell me my refund was 54.7% of the purchase price of $825 less the $25 fee = $426 due back to me.
So I always THOUGHT it worked this way and know I KNOW it works this way - the computer at HC exactly matches what I figured for myself.
Please note that these are based on TIME or MILES which ever nets you the LEAST refund. So if I had driven 50,000 miles of the 75,000 allowed I would not have gotten back 54.7%. I think the miles pro-rate works the same way - they take the miles at purchase from the total miles, then take the miles you drove from purchase to cancellation and get the percentage of use. They compare the days used VS miles used percentages and use the larger percentage of use to figure the refund.
Example on miles:
0 miles when new, 20,000 miles at warranty purchase of a 100,000 mile warranty. Cancel at 70,000. Miles "allowed" in this case is 80,000 and you used 50,000 so:
50,000 / 80,000 * 100.0 = 62.5% used or a 37.5% refund.
Does that make sense? If not - just remember if you don't need the few (very few) benefits of having HC overlap the Honda warranty then wait until just under 24 months or 24,000 miles to purchase with no extra fee. Or you can wait until just under 36/36k and pay a $60 extra fee.
Note that in MY case if I had waited another year (to 36/36k) to purchase MY HondaCare I would have had to pay $60 more (plus any price increases from Honda) but I would have gotten back $563 rather than the $426 they are going to return - even if the price did not go up! So had I waited I would have been better off.
Dennis
Things not covered!
Parts other than genuine HONDA or AMERICAN HONDA authorized parts; wiper blades; battery (except for the nickelmetal hydride battery in hybrid VEHICLES); cables; steering wheel; belts; radiator hoses; heater hoses and vacuum hoses; spark plugs; plug wires; distributor cap and rotor; timing belt replacement when performed as routine maintenance: exhaust system, head pipes, tailpipes, catalytic converter; mufflers; hangars; heat shields; gaskets (except for the manifold block gaskand related fastening hardware); fuel system; fuel tank straps; fuel hoses; brake system wear items such as drums/rotors, shoes/pads; clutch disc, clutch pressure plate; throw out bearing, external shift linkages; pilot bearing/bushing; glass, mirror glass, body structure (except for hood hinges, trunk hinges, door hinges and sliding door rollers), hood fenders, doors, rear hatch, trunk lid, grille, panels; bright metal; sheet metal; paint (except for covered hinges painted to match the original VEHICLE color only); bumpers; moldings; lenses; bezels; bulbs (except for instrument panel illumination bulbs); HiIntensity Discharge (HID.) headlamps; sealed beams; fuses; body seals; weather-strips (except for window sash and windowrun channels); outside ornamentation; emblems; tires; valve stems; wheels; wheel covers/ornaments; rims; trim rings; caps; wheel studs; lug nuts; wheel locks; fastening/securing hardware for non-covered components; stripped or cross threaded fasteners (e.g., nuts, bolts, studs, screws, etc.); body seals; squeaks, rattles; buttons; carpet; dash pad; console; window handles; knobs; boots; pedals; pads; rearview mirror (except for electronic failure of the auto-dimming mirror); interior trim; upholstey; floor mats; electronic/audio accessories and cellular telephones other than AMERICAN HONDA AUTHORIZED ELECTRONIC/AUDIO ACCESSORIES/NAVIGATIONAL, DVD ENTERTAINMENT AND SECURITY SYSTEMS; Safety Restraint System fastening hardware; seat belts and airbag(s) deployed due to collision. If YOU believe there is a defect in these parts, please contact YOUR DEALER immediately.
To me this sounds like a list of some of the most likely things needing replacement during the so-called "warrenty" time. I'm still thinking that the EW is not worth it at all or waiting until the "just under 24/24" time frame and reassessing the need for EW!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
HondaCare covers/doesn't cover almost exactly what the "bumper-to-bumper" warrenty does/does not..
You do the math...how much for this EW....you almost have to hope for something major to go wrong, but not to major...because your never going to have full coverage...there will always be something you end up paying for out of pocket...kinda like going to the doctor for a cold....they end up telling you they've found 4 million other things wrong that your going to have to pay for.... :P
With Hondas coming with a short warranty and having a reasonable, factory backed extended warranty it seems a good deal to me. Also, you do get a pro-rated refund if your car is stolen, totalled or traded. It can also net you larger money if you sell your car later with a "Honda 100k mile warranty" - maybe even more than the plan cost you, since once past 42/42k you can't buy a HC warranty for a car.
Dennis
I will likely get the HC plan for my wife's Accord right before 24/24k and for sure will on my S2000 (I KNOW I am keeping my car for a long time, and she thinks she wants to keep the Accord).
Let us know how you make out on price, and if that dealer wants to sell more HC plans at a deep discount :-)
Dennis
I posted the number a while back, so I searched it up for you:
Honda Care Customer service: (800) 999-5901
Dennis
Now, this depends on the car, in my opinion, as well. Frankly, if I had a 4-cylinder manual transmission accord or civic, I probably wouldn't opt for the plan. But that's me.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Thanks for any help.
forum has.
You can purchase from any Honda dealer - if they are licensed to sell
Honda cars they can sell you a HC policy, they are all the same.
I used the dealer locator on the Honda web page and they came right up. Just search using their ZIP (44691) on the main page at www.hondacars.com .
Pay with a credit card and inspect the contract carefully when you get it (right deductible, right mile and year limits) and you should be just fine.
I got the HC for my S2000 from Balise Honda in CT over the Internet - no problems. This is just "Free money" for these dealers - they are willing to price these for a little over cost and all it costs them is the web page and a few minutes to fill out the paperwork.
I always recommend you wait until just before 24k or 24 months on your Honda before you purchase, however.
Dennis
He says that maybe Honda is running a "special" and asks me to give him until Monday to find out what he can do on the price.
So I'll wait to see what he says on Monday. If he can match or come pretty close then I'll take it. If not, then hello cancellation form!!!
I'll report back next week.
You can always cancel and get the full refund, but I think I would call HondaAcuraWorld and confirm the price before cancelling. If they give you a higher price then make the dealer match that price or the one from Curry/CollegeHills/etc.
Dennis
If the dealer is local, I can see why they would want you to get it from them - since they have to sign the form. If you purchased from an online dealer, they seem to be willing to work with you (or me, as is the case) to take care of it. if your dealer is local and will not cooperate, then I would call HC HQ back and tell them the story and they should fax you over a form and help you as well.
Dennis
I also bought my cargo cover, splash guards, crossbars, and crago liner from Hondacuraworld at considerable savings over retail.
There is no additional fee (unless the price goes up) if you buy before your car is 24 months old or has 24,000 miles on it.
The warranty has a pro-rated refund should your car be stolen, totaled, or you trade it in. The later you wait to buy the policy the more you will get back. I have posted examples of the calculations here in the past to show just how much (it is a good amount) more you would get back.
There are very few benefits the HC policy until the 3/36k runs out, so no reason to buy now and extra money back if you wait.
I recently traded my 2001 S2000 for a 2005 S2000 and cancelled my HC - since I waited until right at 24 months I got a nice bit back (over 1/2 of what I paid).
I can point you to the other postings if you want to crunch the numbers.
Dennis
So... have you had other issues aside from the one A/C repair?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
What I would do is rather than spending your time posting these messages all over the place is use your time calling around to see if INDEED you can find a compressor to fit your car someplace. Perhaps the dealer you are using has some other agenda, but if you call around to other dealers and the online Honda parts place and act like you want to BUY a compressor and see what they say. If you find one (and you confirm it is the right part) then confront your dealer with the part and ask that they obtain it and install it. If you can't find one yourself, then THAT is the problem - not the HondaCare warranty. Be sure you have the right part number and make sure what you find is a Honda part - then you will know for sure where the problem is.
Dennis
Your problem is with one particular dealer's service department. It has nothing to do with Honda's vehicles or Honda's warranty.
Your dealer is trying to brush you off. Go to another shop.
you are one heck of a well informed consumer and thank you for the research and knowledge. I just got a new 05 pilot yesterday and will wait until 24m/24K to buy HC
My questions:
If I wait until 24M/24K to buyHC, am I also taking a risk that the HC program will increase in price significantly?
When you buy HC thru internet dealer, can they set up so that you can pay the HC amount monthly with HC fin. proggram using a credit card?
thank you
I'm sked to pick-up an '05 Accord this PM; plan to deflect all dealer assaults on HC (armed with the perception/insight gained via these helpful threads...........
all the best.....ez
I think all the online dealers will just take a credit card for the purchase. I don't think they would be able to add this to your monthly payment or anything like the local dealer can. Of course, if your local dealer would sell you the HC plan for what the online dealers can do then there would be a little less incentive to wait for 24/24 to buy.
Unless you need the (very limited) benefits you get now with the coverage, I would just wait. You never know if down the road you will want to trade your truck, or it gets totalled or stolen and you will want the max amount back. BTW, I just got the refund check for my 2001 S2000 HC cancellation in the mail yesterday - how sweet it is!
Dennis
What about third party options? Does anyone know of any good options for me, or should I just go w/out?
I was surprized to find that it was cheaper from the dealer than web...
Does this car have a timing belt that should have been changed at 60k? If so, make sure it was done or pay to have it done.
Dennis
thanks for all the good information- you saved me money as well- dealer wanted me to buy w/in 30 days or "I could never ever get the extended warranty "! This led me to Edmunds/your advice.
Surprised me- as this is a very reputable dealer, however, finance manager is new/transferred from another dealership-
greatly appreciate your advice..
I drive 90 mi. /day.
Were you quoted all that money for a Honda-branded warranty, or is it with a third party company? What are the details of the coverage? What are the exclusions? You have to read the small print to see if the purchase makes sense to you.
I would ask for a copy to take home and read.
My real prob. right now is I hit a fully ins. driver whom pulled out in front of me and was ticketed for failure to yield. I have been talking/arguing with her ins. co. since, mine tells me to call them back if I need any help. I was demanding new parts/not used ones anyway. Today the ins. co. told me to call my ins. co. and have my car towed to whom ever I want to fix my car, because his co. wasn't going to work anymore with me on fixing my car and when he told the Honda dealer ( which is where I had just bought my car), that I was to picky and they no longer wanted to
work with me either. I went straight to the dealer after work. They said to take what ever parts because they would make it look good, and that they would call the agent (whim they feel is a great guy) and explain that I' a good guy too.
I'm cx. the ins.
Anyone have Wynn experience?
I picked up a 2001 Accord EX (standard) with 76000 miles this week. What kind of EW (if any) should I get?