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(Alpine White, Manual Trans, Cold Weather Pkg, Sports Pkg, Terra Leather)
Residual 64%
Cap cost before 725 of 39,590
base money factor .00225
factor after 7 deposits .00176
( Total of 8 deposits)
Payment including tax of 538.41
Amount due at inception 4,988.41.
Considering the above, please let me know...
1. How does this deal sound? My calculations show it to be 1,700 over invoice + 725 (625 Acq + 100 doc fee).
2. I have asked for 39,590 (including the 725), which gives him 1000 in profit (invoice+725+1000).
3. How much better can I do?
4. Should I wait to see the July and/or August MF to get even a better deal as the 2007 models should be coming out in Sep?
5. He keeps adding the tax to the net cap cost when calculating the monthly payment, but when I calculate the tax after figuring out the before-tax payment, I always come up with about 2-3 dollars less than what he quotes. Any explanation?
Thank you for your help.
1. Purchase price: $1000 over invoice should be a fair deal and very do able.
2. Money Factor markup: limited to 0.0004 by BMWFS
3. Acquisition fee markup: limited to $200 by BMWFS
Everything else is just math!
Money Factors and Residuals for the 2006 325xi
24 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 70% of MSRP – .00285 Base Money Factor Rate
36 mo/15k mi – Residual Value 60% of MSRP – .00275 Base Money Factor Rate
If you need more miles beyond 15K, you can buy them now or buy them up to 6 months before the lease ends. The rates should not be very different though you should check what the dealer is quoting you.
Your monthly payment on a lease consists of two items:
1. Depreciation = ( Capitalized Cost - Residual)/Number of Months
2. Interest Charge = (Capitalized Cost + Residual) * Money Factor.
where capitalized Cost = negotiated price + acquisition fee and Residual = MSRP * Residual Percentage.
NEVER put money down to reduce the capitalized cost on a lease since you lose the down payment if the car is lost or totalled.
To reduce monthly payments, you can make multiple security deposits to reduce the Money Factors (interest rate). Each extra security deposit is worth a 0.0007 reduction; you can make up to 7 extra deposits. Note that if you do not make any security deposit you rate goes up by 0.0015.
Tax treatment varies between states. In most states you pay tax on the total monthly payment.
Your drive off should be equal to:
First Month Payment + DMV Fees + Security Deposit(s) + Doc Fee
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But, I assumed an MSRP of $36,500, a selling price of $34,500, residual of 60% for 3yr/45K and base money factor of .00275..
That yields a payment of about $505/mo.. The extra mileage (54K, instead of 45K) adds about $35/mo.. for a total of $540/mo..
If your $3K is:
$498 1st pymt.
$500 security deposit
$625 acquisition fee
$200 title/license fees
$1080 taxes (6% X total payment? just a guess)
that just about eats up the whole $3000... So, if my assumptions about taxes and MSRP are accurate, you are about $40/mo. under my deal... That would make the selling price about $3500 off of MSRP, which would be outstanding...
That stated, small differences in the assumptions can make big differences in your payment... Your taxes could be lower, the MSRP could be lower.. You may find that your quoted payment doesn't include taxes, once you get ready to sign.
From the information that you've posted, it looks like the dealer is giving you a good deal. The lease program on the 325xi itself is not that outstanding, but the dealer seems to be doing his part.
regards,
kyfdx
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The purchase price with ED was $32,200 ($1,330 over European invoice), MF of 0.00285, 71% residual, $825 Acquisition fee, $195 documentation fee, no sales tax since I am in NH.
The monthly payment is $391 a month including 5 additional security deposits. Total drive off costs $3835 ($391 first month payment; $2,400 security deposits; $25 title fee; $825 acquisition fee' $195 doc fee).
Seems like a good deal, even including the fact that the acquisition fee and doc fee are high. But what am I missing? Am I being taken advantage somewhere I am not thinking about? Thank you for your input.
Should also Bank fees ($670) be a part of drive off payment? The dealer asked me for it, but you did not mentioned it. Is there bank fee when the lease is via BMWFS? What is "Money Factor markup: limited to 0.0004 by BMWFS"? Does it mean that money factor is negotiable and they can go below, let's say ".00275 Base Money Factor Rate"?
Thank you in advance
2006 325xi, metallic paint, premium package, cold weather,navigation system, satellite radio, park distance control. MSRP $41,940 selling price of $39,160 with 200 for MACO and 180 for training service fee. Are these always included? The car has to be ordered so delivery is expected in late July...does anyone know if there will be any incentives on the 3-series?
Finally, how much is reasonable to put down, if anything, upon ordering the car? I've been told nothing by one dealer, 1000 by another, and 2000 by another. Thanks so much!!
Maryland
VOB- one of the larger volume dealers, known for pretty good prices on the sales side. however, a very bad reputation for their service dept. the people i know who have bought there said that VOB was good on price, but after a couple of unbelievably bad service experiences take their car elsewhere for repairs.
Passport- has a good reputation for prices and customer service. i know 4 people who have bought over the years from there, various models, all very happy with their buying experience.
Tischer/Mile One BMW- i don't know anything about this one, it's further out and a long drive even if it's considered Silver Spring.
Virginia
Arlington- they seem to be just ok on price, ok on service. depending on conditions (right time,right car) you could get a decent deal here. sometimes they'll deal, other times they'll hold firm at a high price.
Fairfax- from my experience the worst reputation among the VA dealers. They tried to pull the bait-and-switch on my cousin. Twice! First, tried to put him into a demo (2,000 miles+) car after agreeing on a "brand new" car price, then tried to switch to a non-metallic color car. He did still buy- after threatening to walk out, they chased him down and gave in. The deal was good for him, but may not be worth the aggravation for you. I would not recommend servicing your car here though.
Sterling- has a good reputation, and their Client Advisors are very friendly. I'd recommend this one in VA if you don't mind driving out there. They are also the Costco dealership if you are going that route.
As far as price, if you belong to Costco, it can't hurt to check out their pricing to get a baseline. On the 330i, it was $600 over invoice, options at cost when we looked.
Or, if you belong to a credit union around DC, also try United Buying Service. Sometimes their prices are lower- plus the dealer is not allowed to charge processing fees. That could save you almost $300 in VA. The one caveat though- sometimes UBS is a pain to deal with. You have to call them first, you can't pick the dealership, they just assign one to you. If you want to change it, to find one closer to you for example, they say you can't do that.
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Training fee is bogus. MACO should be listed on the car's invoice. Ask to see the invoice.
Are these always included? The car has to be ordered so delivery is expected in late July...does anyone know if there will be any incentives on the 3-series?
Expect good sized (2k or so) incentives on the 2006 3 series by fall as the 07s will be the 328i and 335i (more power), thus making the 06s one year lame ducks.
Finally, how much is reasonable to put down, if anything, upon ordering the car? I've been told nothing by one dealer, 1000 by another, and 2000 by another. Thanks so much!!
$500 to $1000 refundable deposit is normal.
Automatic
Premium package
Cold weather package
Comfort Access
metallic paint
$36,500 (includes destination / but does not include taxes or registration).
With taxes, registration, dealer fee, etc. it is 39,585 out the door. Can I do better?
Please help.
I just put a deposit down on a 330xi. This was a cash purchase, not a lease:
Manual Transmission
Cold Weather Package
Jet Black/Black Leatherette
Invoice is $36,685 (from Edmunds). MSRP is $40,485.
I paid:
$37,338
+ $ 1,866.90 (5% Mass Sales Tax)
+ $ 318 (Registration, Inspection + Doc Fee)
__________
$39,512.90 Out the door
I simply used Edmunds service to get a quote from a more distant dealer and then got my local dealer to match it. This was relatively painless process -- so I probably didn't get the best possible deal, but I think I did pretty well in terms of price vs time spent negotiating.
Hope this helps others in their purchase process.
Thank you for your help.
Thanks
When you make your deal on the car, the lease paramaters are locked in for the life of the lease.
Most deals don't require $2500 down, but a dealer will structure the lease that way, to make the payments seem less expensive.. You should always try to negotiate the selling price of the car, as the lower the price, the cheaper the lease.
regards,
kyfdx
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I received an email today from a dealer for the 06 325XI
with premium pkg, cool weather, automatic and Satellite prep. The price was $38,595 and the reduced it to $37,395. Is that a good price?? :confuse:
Total due at signing 3,930
Pmt 547 for 27 months
Help is greatly appreciated!!!
Thanks :confuse:
I got $1,200.00 off
$1,100.00 total out of pocket for first months payment and various others charges.
Payment W/O taxes is $585.00 for 36 months.
$3,930.00 is way way too much out of pocket.
2006 325xi 36mos/36kmiles
automatic
prem. package
cold weather package
price: 37,000
down: 1000
money factor: .00285 (before cr report reviewed)
Good deal?
I'd check in the lease forum for the money factors... I think BMWFS just made an unscheduled downward adjustment in MFs..
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Hopefully a new BMW owner.
I was wondering what should I be asking for if I plan to lease this car.
What is the best deal I should be getting within the Bay Area, CA?
Thxs,
JK
2006 BMW 325i (Jet Black)
Options - Navigation, Auto Tran, Premium Package.
MSRP = $37,075 (incl. dest & options)
Invoice = $34,665 (incl. dest & options - edmunds)
Offered price = $36,748 (incl. dest & options)
Money Factor = .0025
Residual = 63%
Term/Mileage = 36months/12k a year
Due at signing:
$650 Security Deposit
$675 acquisition fee
$253 DMV (NJ)
$198 Dealer Doc
6% Tax (all tax due upfront)
$510 (1st month payment)
Thank you.
I wud say you are paying a lot more . Dont pay anything more tha 1000$ over invoice. I am in the midst of finalising a deal for 330i. and your money factor lates is .00195 . The due at signing is all ok. But the other pieces seems way off. You cud send me an email and i wud let u know my final cost once i finalise, which shud be in a weeks time
V
I am paying 649.97/month for it for 36 months. I am not sure what the total price was because I leased it, but I am not sure if I got a good deal. (my dad did the negotiating sorry) The only options I got were the mystic blue metallic, automatic transmission...and um power seats come standard in all new 325cic's.
I got the feeling I was paying like 45k for the car and I don't think those options are even worth 45k...
By the way this was at BMW of Greenwich in Connecticut. I live in New York, though. Someone give me some info please!
I did not lease, I bought. So not sure how helpful this will be. You can read more about my buying experience and price paid and the dealer chosen etc at
http://www.moremasala.com/showthread.php?t=7
HTH
--JC
http://www.moremasala.com/showthread.php?t=7
do you all think it is worth that? i'd like to get for closer to $29K...