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46.2K for 335i, Manual
premium, sport, ipod, nav, sat radio.
About 1100 over invoice, then add the 380 maco, 180 training, doc fee of 55 and taxes is around 50K.
Too high? I note that there are essentially 1 or 2 in all of southern cal in my color, doors, and manual.
What options does anyone else get when they go into the F&I guy?
Dealers try and soak you into that but it's not mandated by BMW; just another way for them to recoup their advertising costs and the costs for training someone to charge you 140 bucks an hour to work on your car. tell them loud and clear no.
Than again, what allows them to charge "whatever the traffic will bear" is what you note above, that there are only 1 or 2 in what you want, so it's likely you'll pay what they ask if you want it bad enough. That's the grease that keeps their wheels turning.
F&I will try and sell you paint and interior protection, LoJack, extended warranty, extended BMW assist (beyond your supplied 4 years) possibly an alarm and a few other goodies. They ususlly have 4 packages listed like Premium, Better, Good and Okay or something similar. I turned them all down.....
Also thanks of the F&I. Good to hear you turned them all down. I talked to my insurance guy and he said he doesn't give any discounts for alarms anymore. So I guess as long as I can lock it from the remote then I'll be happy. I don't see the point in paint and interior protection. Extended warranty maybe someday since I'm going to buy the numbers I was told by the dealer were high as they mentioned 2K, and they said brakes are usually 1700 if I get it through them. But still 2K is a lot as when I had my non-bmw I recall they always sent me letters seeing if I wanted to extend my warranty through the years at a cheaper price than I got from the F&I guy. The only other one I might consider would be the LoJack. How much were you offered? Not sure I want it as I will get full insurance, but curious just the same.
Cons are that it costs after 4 years. With LoJack you pay once and it's done. Also that police cars don't have locating devices like LoJack. However, BMW Assist can pinpoint the location where Lojack must have a car in the area to actually home in on the stolen vehicle and most police cars do not have Lojack receivers.
Finally, BMW assist will call if your airbags deploy, can provide emergency service calls for police, fire medical (like OnStar) and other roadside assistance at the touch of a button. And you can communicate with them. Lojack does none of that.
Plus..if the BMW is stolen and wrecked..I'd personally never want to see it again and rather see a nice check instead towards the next one!
Premium Package
Sports Package
STEPTRONIC Automatic Transition
Navigation System
iPod and USB adapter
Xenon Headlights
Total Paid: 41,800, car will be delivered in seven weeks as it was not in stock as configured.
In fact, even this time around, I had put down a deposit on a fully loaded 08 g35 with tech/premium/sport/nav. That night a buddy of mine called (who is on his 4th 350z) and told him I was going with the g35 over the 335i. He reminded me that have been raving about the 335i for the past 2 years and that I would be wishing I had gone with... So I cancelled my g35 and bought the 335i the next day.
The 2 cars are very close and the 5-7000 price diff can make the Infiniti hard to turn down. But so far I have no regrets on the BMW.
I was offered 40,625
328XI
Nav
Premium Package
Auto
Cold Weather
First, they are listing it at $500 below invoice. Obviously they want to move this car but how much below invoice is reasonable.
Second, they told me they recorded the car as sold and therefore the warranty has started. I am not too concerned about this because I will hit the mileage before the years anyway but it just seemed a bit odd. Is there anything there to be concerned about?
Thanks for any feedback
Mark
How much more don't know. That depends on how bad they want to get rid of the car. They should be pretty desperate to get rid of it i think, because soon they will be getting the 335d and x5d. That isn't until fall though, and by that time also the 2009 models will be coming in.
I feel that there is something fishy when you say the warranty started, it isn't the point that you will use the warranty or not. If it was sold then the transaction may have gone sour, and that kicked the warranty in. Then the car should be sold as used, as long as it is registered once it is considered used.
And, as the previous poster stated, it is technically a used car and you would be the "2nd owner."
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
(1) maintenance only (Fluids like oil change and wipers) for $1,500 for an another 50K so that basically means until 100,000 no maintenance worry
(2) Tranmission and engine I think they said it was about $3,000 can't remember the exact price.
This was a dealer in NY.
In the LA/OC area I've seen prices down to 500 over invoice for some 328s, but not 335s. Especially if it's a specfic color, options, etc. that are hard to get. You know...supply and demand! So for some 335s I've been seeing 1200 - 2500 over invoice. However, if you go out of the area and willing to drive, I've seen prices around 600 over inovice. Though that means you'll be driving for a few hours to pick up that car to save about a $700-$1000.
Not sure if people rather buy local so they have someone to complain to that might be more likely to help them (i.e. the sales guy)???? That's my only though about buying local. Like if I picked up a lemon????
Any comments?
If you had a lemon, you would deal with BMW. Your salesperson will have nothing to do with a lemon.
Incidentally, I would not accept the vehicle with Bridgestones. Santa Monica BMW refused to either make it happen or make the change upon arrival; Pacific/Glendale committed to the Conti Contact SSR RFTs, and the car came equipped as desired. Used the internet sales dept. My experience with salespeople is similar to others posting here--add a grand to the cap cost and right into his/her's pockets.
Internet sales people know that if you mention Edmunds.com and that you know exactly what you want, and will order it, not take stock inventory, you'll get $ 500 over invoice or better and considerably more respect than the walk-in customer who doesn't understand the variables of a lease..
However, just yesterday I got an Internet dealer call me for a car 600 over invoice for 335i, that she's going have to swipe from someone else that is supposedly en route to the U.S.
Maybe the month of March was bad since this sales person had been quoting my 12-1800 over invoice for the last month, but now she went down to 600. I think this person might be getting low sales. Since I also went into the dealer and talked to a regular salesman and he wouldn't even consider anything under 2K over invoice last month.
Maybe he already made his quota. Hahah. Well I'm out of the area, and am going to check out a car from this other dealer who is saying 600 over but I am out of the area right now.
So got to LA and OC where BMWs are in high demand and apparently other people are paying big bucks (not me well not yet!). Make bucks there dude!!!
Any experience is appreciated!
2008 328i Black on Black
Does anybody buy a 2007 328i recently? Is the price as someone just said that $2500 lower than 2008's?
Replying to: edljil (Apr 13, 2008 10:57 pm)
I just purchased a 328i convertible, alpine white with cream interior, prem, auto, sports, nav, ipod, comfort access, sat, msrp 53295, invoice 49200, purchased for 49,000 even.
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Wow! What a great deal! How did you negotiate this deal? Where did you buy?
How did you negotiate it?
Replying to: edljil (Apr 15, 2008 7:40 pm)
I purchased it in Atlanta - several dealers agreed to match. I was obviously very pleased when I realized that it was actually below invoice, especially when they had to pay to ship it from an out of town dealer.
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Which dealership?
You can get the exact specs you want at a great price as long (even if it is not available) as you are willing to a) shop around and b) be patient while it is built and shipped. Also, I think for Sedans and 328s they should be even more willing to deal.
That is an excellent deal. $200 over invoice? Do you mind referring me to the dealer / salesperson you purchaed your car from? I've been shopping around for the past two weeks and everyone seems to be holding tight on their prices.
Thanks!
Different dealerships offer different pricing at any given time depending on what their inventory looks like and how close they are to hitting their sales targets- I tried duplicating a deal with a dealership (same price, same location) before and to no avail. What I would suggest is going to the following website: fightingchance.com and reading thru their website and paying the small fee of $40 for the info packet they will send you- trust me very well worth the info (see my previous post on this). Best of luck- let me know if I can be of further help.
I did a lifetime in 2003 and will have a free ride on my new '08 :P
2700 out of pocket everything included and 473/month, 3 year/10k miles per year.
Any thoughts guys?