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2013 and Earlier - Mazda6 Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • rishipriship Member Posts: 65
    I think that you should be able to pay invoice minus rebates on a new car. I bought a couple of weeks ago and paid about 400 under invoice minus 4250 in rebates. Of course I was eligible for college rebate and $1000 gulf region financing rebate which you wont get in ohio. Houston is also probably more competitive. But I think invoice is doable.

    FYI, I also looked at purchasing in Indiana. Kennedy Mazda in Valporaiso offered to sell me a 6S with only auto for just under 18K. MSRP was 22,765. Also note that there were two price increases over the year. So that can effect the price by as much as 500. With only auto MSRP could be 22,765 or 22,945 or 23,245 for the exact same car depending on the build date.

    A search of Mazdausa.com showed a car pretty close to your desire at cascade mazda. 23,345 is MSRP. Steel gray S with power seat and auto. If they give invoice that is a pretty good deal.
  • rishipriship Member Posts: 65
    2004 6s with power seat and auto
    MSRP was 23,065.

    Subtract 2150 dealer discount, 2750 Texas rebate 1000 MAC financing rebate, 500 college grad rebate. 6400 total discount.

    Total paid was 16,665. Out the door was about 17,900. Bought at Jeff Haas Mazda in Houston.
  • jahnu04jahnu04 Member Posts: 58
    Picked up a new 2004 Mazda6 Automatic sport Wagon yesterday for $22445 OTD. Had 45 miles on it. Options include Luxury Package, SportPackage, Bose Audio, Power Moonroof, Side and Side curtain airbags,
    Exterior color is silver with black interior.
    Price of the vehicle $20,740 (incl. destination charge)
    Doc fees: $50
    Smooth transaction and no pressure to buy any extras!! Did not buy extended warranty. Wonderful salesperson. Financed thru my credit union for 2.99% APR, dealer could not beat the price, the lowest they could get was 3.48%
    So total rebate amount was around $7,000 off MSRP. Got couple of free oil changes and few service discount coupons
  • tweet651983tweet651983 Member Posts: 32
    riship,

    Thanks for the info. The car I looking to purchase had a MSRP of $22,945, dealer invoice was $21,430 and dealer quoted me $18,200. (invoice less $3,000 rebate and another $230)

    I would have bought if the car was new, but the car was a demo and had 3,500 miles on it and I thought that it needed to be discounted more with that kind of mileage.
  • slickdogslickdog Member Posts: 225
    You did the right thing by walking away. The dealer's price really doesn't seem reasonable for a car that should definitely be considered used. I'd be afraid a demo like that may have taken too much of a beating during it's break-in period too. I'm surprised that they wouldn't negotiate, considering the prices other people on the board are reporting for NEW cars. Good luck.
  • bob222bob222 Member Posts: 3
    You did the right thing. The car should have been considered used with that many miles on it. You should have asked how much the dealership would have offered you as a trade. I'm sure their NADA value would have been well under the price they were quoting.
  • tweet651983tweet651983 Member Posts: 32
    Anyone buy a 2005 yet? What kind of pricing are you getting?
  • wilheldpwilheldp Member Posts: 3
    If I were you, I would steer WELL clear of any dealer demo cars. From my experience, and the experience of others in my family, the dealers treat those cars like utter crap. Where most consumers purchasing a new car will usually take care to properly break in the car, the dealers tend to try to push the car to the limit before it is ready. This is somewhat damaging on the engine and other parts, so I would consider a dealer demo to be much worse than a consumer used car with the same mileage. YMMV.
  • leo80leo80 Member Posts: 4
    i got quotes from a bunch of dealers ... and a few of them mentioned the 1500 rebate on 05 mazda6 in their negotiations. for 04 the rebate is 3000.
  • savezsavez Member Posts: 2
    I am about to buy a 2004 Mazda6 Sports Wagon Manual-- with leather, but no 6 CD changer, moonroof, bose, etc.. My dealer is asking $18,880 (this is after the $4,000 rbate, but I think I may be paying too much -- Edmunds lists this same car for $18415 and WITH 6 CD changer, $18,826. I like this dealer a LOT Mazda in Cary, NC-- he is teling me I am paying $750 over invoice. Advice? Thanks Time is of the essence!
  • savezsavez Member Posts: 2
    I am negotiating for the above-- very nice dealer (Cary, NC) is iffering me a price of $18,880 (w/out all the taxes, etc) for this car with leather interior, etc.. but NO 6 CD changer--he tells me I am paying $750 over invoice. Edmunds listed this same car as going for $18,425; with 6cd in dash: $18,826... Any wiggle room you know of? I need to make a decision quickly-- thanks!!!
  • jahnu04jahnu04 Member Posts: 58
    Savez:

    Try to find the exact invoice price of the car thru edmunds with all the installed options. There is a rebate upto $4000 on this car. So try get it for a price less than or equal to invoice - $4K.

     

    I got my wagon few weeks back for $4.5K less than invoice, refer to my posting #881.

     

    Good Luck!
  • likaglovlikaglov Member Posts: 82
    I bought my 6s sedan from this same dealer last spring. I was using S-plan, so I did not negotiate the price. I think you should be able to find the exact invoice price and pay that (or maybe $250 over, but not $750 over) then subtract the reabte. They have a very high doc fee (~$375) as well, so I would try to just pay invoice. They'll get their money from the sale...
  • jcbasserjcbasser Member Posts: 1
    Hello,

     

    I am negotiating a deal right now for $500 off invoice. This car is a manual, bose, side airbags, roof rack, moonroof and the homelink with compass. Total price after the $4000 rebate in california will be $19750 plus tax/liscense.

     

    I test drove a Saab, Subaru, and an Audi. For the money, the Mazda is far better..

     

    For someone who does not care about the leather package, they are advertising a total cost of $16799 for an automatic. That's a good deal.

     

    My thinking regarding that person and the dealer demo, way overpriced when you can get a new one with 50 miles for less money!!

     

    Happy hunting,

     

    jc
  • strange3strange3 Member Posts: 14
    Savez,

     

    Sounds like a good, if not great, price to me. Please keep us informed about your purchase and dealer experience. I'm 5 mi. away & interested in a 6s.

    I looked at used MPV's last yr. & ended up in Raleigh buying new. Good price & good dealer. Cary turned me off with their price negotiations, but that was then.

     

    Maybe I'll see you there before the end of the month.

     

    Dr. S.
  • drraman82drraman82 Member Posts: 1
    Hello,

     

    I'm interested in a 2003 M6i 4-door sedan from an Internet Auto Dealer in Reno, NV. The car is silver, automatic, ABS, basic power options. The mileage is 18,000. The dealer says retail is about $18500 and they bought it wholesale for $15,700. I'm thinking this is pretty steep for a 2003 model with 18,000 miles. I was thinking about offering $13,500 to start. Is this too low for a car like this, and if so, what should I think about spending for an M6i with these specs.

     

    Thanks.
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    to me - that seems way too high. If they paid $15,700 for it wholesale - they will probably lose money on the car.

     

    looking at the invoice price of the car at about $17,500, with about $3000 in rebates - FOR A NEW ONE - I would say that you shouldn't pay over the $13,000 you are initially going to offer. I am sure you could get a new one for about $14,500.
  • daves4daves4 Member Posts: 6
    Similar equipped 6i are listed for sale here in California for a no haggle price of 12,900 They are rental return from Hertz with about 22k miles. I think your price is more than fair.
  • chadmobile9chadmobile9 Member Posts: 1
    2005 Mazda MAZDA6

    s Grand Touring 4dr Sport Wagon at 100 below invoice.

     

    Casey Mazda in Newport News, VA.

     

    Dealt with old Sales Manager who is now GM.

     

    This was before rebates of 2,000.

    Armed with Edmunds invoice price, he took out invoice, and beat it by $ 100.

     

    Awesome deal, awesome dealership.

     

    Tell him I sent you from Virginia Beach!

     

    Great Car. Was in and out of Dealership within 1 Hour.

     

    Best dealership experience in my life, and this car handles like my neighbors BMW
  • dieselg4dieselg4 Member Posts: 23
    I'm not sure where you're located, but a dealership (used) in Duncansville, PA has about 6 Mazda 6i sedans listed for under 15k, i think the one with the most mileage is 21,000 mi. It's called blue knob auto, my parents bought their lates crown vic there.
  • dieselg4dieselg4 Member Posts: 23
    This is similar to my previous post, but yeah I think he's asking way too much. I've seen a number of 2004 6i's listed below 14k. None of them had ABS, but they did have alloys and an auto transmission. For comparison, go to a website like autotrader and search for the same car in a 100 mi radius, and see what they're listing for in your area.
  • snwyvernsnwyvern Member Posts: 2
    Does anybody have information on the new incentives for the Mazda6? I'm in the market to buy a 6s Wagon, and I've gotten all sorts of garbage about the expiration. Everything from "They're going away (buy one now)" to "They're going to increase the cash back by 50%." If anybody has any information, feel free.
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    I am looking for the information as well. Except I am looking for the sports sedan. I know down here in the Houston area they are selling very slowly, so I would be suprised if they went away - but nothing has come out on the new incentives yet from what I can tell.

     

    If anyone knows where to find it, that would be great. I have asked one dealer that I have been corresponding with - but I haven't heard anything back yet.
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    Here is what I heard on the new incentives from a dealership - at least in the Houston Area. Not much change in the incentives - just structured differently. $2,250 rebate + $750 dealer cash + $1000 rebate if financed through MAC. This is only $250 more than last month for this area.

     

    This is for the Sedan. May be more for the Wagon.
  • svalleysvalley Member Posts: 30
    escortowner,

     

    >$2,250 rebate + $750 dealer cash + $1000 rebate if financed through MAC. This is only $250 more than last month for this area.

     

    Is this incentives for 04 or 05?

    Thinking trading my 03 Accord for a 05 Mazda6s when the price is right.

     

    Thanks
  • bgraybgray Member Posts: 1
    I purchased my 2004 M6s Sport Wagon on Dec. 2nd for $19,500 + TT&L (about $21,00 OTD). That was $7,500 off MSRP. They threw in window tinting and $250 worth of gas (some kind of gas card promotion).

     

    It has:

    Luxury Package

    Bose system and changer

    Moonroof

    Side Airbags

    Wheel Locks

     

    Everything I wanted except for factory roof rack rails and crossbars.
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    no....this is for the '04....the '05 is the same, but it is $750 instead of 2250 customer cash.

     

    why would you choose an 05 over an 04? just curious to know if there is something better on the 05 than the 04....except for the automatic....that I understand.
  • svalleysvalley Member Posts: 30
    Yes, I want the 05 6 speed ATX, plus it make more sense for me to buy a 05 since it is 2005 already.

      

    Is the 05 incentive $1500 cash plus $1000 MAC? or just $1500 cash?
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    It is $1500 + $1000.....I have been debating on the car to get myself. I guess to me - if you think you will keep the car for several years, then an '04 is all right. But if you are going to turn it over soon - then an '05 woudl probably be better....but there is a huge difference between the 04 and 05 automatic....which doesn't matter for me becuse I want the stickshift.
  • jeremy585jeremy585 Member Posts: 9
    What is the big difference bet. the 04 and 05 auto transmition?

     

    I am thinking of buying in 04' (Raleigh, NC) anyone out there know of a good place that has good prices? I was looking at new 04s at Capital Mazda but they were running over 20K for a 6s
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    The big difference is the 04 is a 5 speed automatic, and the 05 is a 6 speed automatic. I have read a few different people saying that there is a big difference between the shifting and response of the two models.

     

    If I were purchasing an automatic, I would probably pay the extra for an 05. - but that's just me.

     

    what sort of options are you looking to have on the car?
  • jeremy585jeremy585 Member Posts: 9
    I am looking for power windows, locks, moonroof, leather (although I can live without). anything else is a plus. The guy at the dealership said he would give me the car at 500 above Factory listing as well as $3500 in rebates ($500 for recent college grad) all this cost me?

     

    Also, looking at the consul, I think I would be tough to add my own stereo to it. Anyone else have this problem??
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    I am in almost the same perdiciment as you are. Everything you have asked for except the moonroof and Leather is standard. The problem with the Moonroof is - I haven't seen any of the cars that have a moonroof, but no Bose system - If I found one in the color I like, that would be the one I would buy.

     

    As far as the stereo is concerned, I have been told it is nearly impossible to add a different stereo. Things like - keeping the car for a month to create a special fiberglass console came up. However, I read some other people's messages that have said that the stock stereo is really good, and you can add different speakers to the system and it sounds really good. If I were to get one with the stock stereo, I would get a 5 Channel Amp (or similar) and add my own Sub and run all the speakers through that thing and It would sound really good. However, I don't think there are any RCA's on the back of the stereo.

     

    As far as the price is concerned, you got me - I think various regions have different costs. Where I am at, I have basically told them I won't discuss anything over Invoice pricing, and they have quickly come down. The rebates sound right though. You should ask them if they have the $1000 MAC rebate too. Right now if you finance through Mazda you get an extra $1000 - but, that ins't nationwide.
  • aab4aab4 Member Posts: 39
    Casey Mazda are great!!!!

     

    No BS- He shows you invoice, all the rebates,

     

    Incredible deal, we bought 6S, my daughter test drove the Accord, and Camry, and like dthe 6S the best.

     

    Great dealership, wish I could mention the GM name!!!!!!
  • aab4aab4 Member Posts: 39
    Almost forgot-

     

    Hall Mazda in Virginia Beach- Complete opposite-

     

    They even tried to put in "Window Etching", and

    Pin stripping for additional $500.

     

    Casey was a 35 minute drive to save thousands, with none of this despicable sales tactics like Hall.
  • jeremy585jeremy585 Member Posts: 9
    Is the stock radio XM rdy? I'm going to be pissing away alot of $$ with my stereo, but I at least my want XM!
  • rebornreborn Member Posts: 1
    This is the offer I've been given:

    04 Mazda6 Sedan 6 series

    Automatic

     

    This car has a rear wing spoiler even though it isn't on the options and the price anywhere.

     

    They made a mistake on their webpage offering a rebate (2750) that expired on Jan 3 saying they will honor it (rebate now is 2250).

     

    The car has 1600 miles which they are knocking off $300 for. I have no idea if that's a good deal.

     

    The deal was for Invoice + $300 which is $21,472 according to the invoice sheet he showed me and about right with Edmunds.

     

    So $21,472 - $300 (miles) - $2750 (rebate) - $1000 (MAC rebate hopefully I can get) - $500 (grad rebate) = $16,922

     

    The doc fee and other fees seem right.

     

    So any thoughts on this deal? The car looks great and sounds good with the breaks I'm getting, just worried about the mileage (first time buyer).
  • rishipriship Member Posts: 65
    Bought the car in Houston a month ago. 23,065 was sticker. Got a dealer discount of 2150 which is about 400 below invoice. Rebate of 2750, college grad reabte of 500 and MAC financing rebate of 1000. Total paid was 16,665. That's a total discount of $6400. Had to pay a $50 doc fee, but that's pretty standard in Houston.

     

    Rebate is now 500 (2250)less in gulf states, but there is 750 dealer incentive. Other regions have 3000 rebate with no dealer incentives. In general I'd say that invoice minus all rebates and dealer incentives is a fair deal on an 04.
  • jeremy585jeremy585 Member Posts: 9
    I think you got the sports package. What other things come with the car.

     

    16K sound like a good deal to me BTW
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    I am in Houston too and am looking to head into a dealership on Saturday to start negotiating for a mazda 6s. Which dealer did you go to? And, was that 2150 discount through the internet salesman, or was it one from the regular lot?
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    I have been looking on the Mazda web site and I came across something interesting. Was wondering if anyone had any good information on why it may be the case.

     

    There are about 4 different cars I am looking at, and the base price is different on the cars. When I say Base price - I mean the price without any options.

     

    The base price on some is 22,045, and the base price on another one is 22,345.

     

    The issue to me is - I like the one that is for 22,345 more (because of the options), but $300+ interest is 2 plane tickets back home, so, if there isn't a real valid reason why the base price is more, then I am not sure why I would need to pay that price.

     

    Anyone know what/why?
  • sstrz1sstrz1 Member Posts: 28
    The difference is between the Sedan and 5-Door (hatch)
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    Actually, you are mistaken on that one. I have already looked at the difference in those two prices. The difference between the Hatch and the Sedan is larger than $300.

     

    I am comparing 2 sedans.

     

    But thanks.
  • gmills1gmills1 Member Posts: 4
    I qualify for the S plan and have begun shopping for left over 04 Mazda 6 wagons in the Wash. DC area. The one S plan qoute I received to date was for a loaded model:

    - MSRP $28,565

    - Dealer Invoice $25,969 (which includes $520 destination & $200 advertisement fee)

    - $ 4,000 Mazda incentive

    - $ 21,969 total price (not including tax etc...)

    - $ 6,596 discount from MSRP

     

    When asked the dealer said the best negotiated price they could give was about 500 more than the S plan (this do not include any hard negotiations on my part). A quick review of internet prices for a similar model and options showed a MSRP discount of the same amount - about 6500 dollars. My concern is at this time of year I should probably be able to negotiate a better price on a 04 than the S plan; others in this forum recently seem to be getting better relative discounts from MSRP. Any thoughts? Thanks
  • gmills1gmills1 Member Posts: 4
    I qualify for the S plan and have begun shopping for left over 04 Mazda 6 wagons in the Wash. DC area. The one S plan qoute I received to date was for a loaded model:

    - MSRP $28,565

    - Dealer Invoice $25,969 (which includes $520 destination & $200 advertisement fee)

    - $ 4,000 Mazda incentive

    - $ 21,969 total price (not including tax etc...)

    - $ 6,596 discount from MSRP

     

    When asked the dealer said the best negotiated price they could give was about 500 more than the S plan (this do not include any hard negotiations on my part). A quick review of internet prices for a similar model and options showed a MSRP discount of the same amount - about 6500 dollars. My concern is at this time of year I should probably be able to negotiate a better price on a 04 than the S plan; others in this forum recently seem to be getting better relative discounts from MSRP. Any thoughts? Thanks
  • rishipriship Member Posts: 65
    Escortowner,

     

    I got the price by having dealers match Dallas prices. I started by searching the internet for Texas dealers with good prices. Try freemanmazda.net and and townnorthmazda.com. Both are dallas dealers. I also went to mazdausa.com to verify that they had similar cars as those in Houston. I started at Jay Marks and told them that townnorth was giving 2000 of all 6's. They agreed to match. I told them that anybody will match. Give me 2500 off and I will buy today. They said they couldn't do that. I knew 2500 was high but they didn't have the exact car I wanted so I added 200. The next day I went to Jeff Haas. I told them that Jay Marks would do 2000, and at 2300 I would buy today. They countered at 2150 and I accepted.

     

    Also note prices at ingrampark.com. A San Antonio dealer. Super low prices, but one only, rather than all cars. I have no idea if they will really honor this price at ingrampark. I didn't try and get a dealer to match, because I hadn't seen the ad at the time.

     

    Lastly. I spoke with the internet manager at Jeff Haas. I have had issues with this dealer. The internet manager is the best guy there, but I have issues with the sales manager. Essentially a scratch was noticed after paperwork but before delivery. I refused delivery and they reluctantly took it back after arguing. They fixed the car. When car was picked up it was 8pm. Too dark to see, so they said take it home and call if problems. Called at 10 am to report that there was a second scrath. Salesman said it bring it in. Brought it in and manger refused to fix the scratch. After a lot of arguing and threatining to write Mazda they fixed the car. Talked to Gillman also. They are willing to deal. I'd go to Gillman or Jay Marks.
  • fitguyfitguy Member Posts: 220
    Just a note to anyone looking at '04 vs. '05 automatics: I have an '04 and sometimes drive it agressively; the 5 spd auto is just average in terms of performance and responsiveness, esp. from the 1-2 shift. I previously had an '03 Accord auto, the Honda transmission is far superior to Mazda's 5 spd auto- much smoother, cleaner shifts when pushed. Haven't driven an '05 Mazda, I've also heard it's much improved. If you plan on driving your Mazda like a family sedan, it probably won't matter much; if you like to have some fun w/it (as life intended!), consider an '05. Otherwise, my 6S is a great ride (and yes, the handling blows away the Accord!), and has been flawlessly reliable over the first 3K miles.
  • svalleysvalley Member Posts: 30
    Fitguy,

     

    I am in the progress of trading in my 03 Accord 4DRs LX auto to 05 Mazda6s Auto. It is good to hear that you have no regret on the trade. I am just a little concern on the reliability on the Mazda. My 03 Accord has no problem in 23 months of ownership, and consumer report now not recommand Mazda6.

     

    Thanks
  • escortownerescortowner Member Posts: 132
    I really liked the guy at Gillman - however, they are a little low on my trade. I was at Jeff Haas myself and they offered me $1500 less than Gillman. I was at Russell & Smith tonight and was in the finance office when the finance guy said an interest rate that was too high. I walked, and told them it was nothing I discussed at all. I if they want my business they will try another bank in the morning and try to work a deal.

     

    I will look into the web sites you mentioned. I have a feeling I can get a better rate at my credit union - even a used rate. ANyone know if there is a minimum time the car must be financed through MAC to completely pay it off?
  • jeremy585jeremy585 Member Posts: 9
    I know you can refinance after 3 months. I'm at 8.75% (way too high) but I will bite the bullet until 3 months is up. My Credit Union is offing 5.5% for 66-72 Months
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