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The car has 11000 miles on it,color is pebble ash, v6,sport package,rear spoiler,5 speed, no leather, no bose, no moon roof.no scratches or marks.
NADA says $16800 trade,$19525 retail
Edmunds says $14900 trade,$16257 retail
Black book said $14000 trade.
These seem very low, I have decided to sell it myself and start at $18500, does this sound about right and should I ask more or less?
Best of luck in selling!!!!
I concur with the $16,000 offer....one thing to consider however, the net difference will only be about $1000 if you get $16,000 for it - reason being, if you trade it in, you only have to pay sales tax on the difference in the two car prices. If you sell it on the street, you no longer have a trade in so you are paying sales tax on the whole value of the new car.
If you are leasing - you may as well just trade it in. That is what I found, because if you are leasing and want to sell it to a private party - you have to buy it from the leasing company (and pay sales tax on the car) - then the person you want to sell the car to has to pay sales tax on the car they are buying from you, and you have to pay sales tax on your new car from the dealership.
I find the details of the Jetta to be much better - materials quality, some minor functionality, such as the auto window roll up etc.
However, where I have found Mazda to excel is in the major areas of the car - the handling and ride quality is much smoother than I anticipated. I knew it would ride smoother vertically, but it also seems to have tighter handling from side to side.
Maybe future Mazda6 cars will be able to capitalize on these design features, and focus on improved materials quality on the interior.
In the end, the $1000 credit was probably closer to $900 credit because it was a higher interest rate than my refinance - so there was additional interest - but obviously well worth it.
I will dump this car for a huge loss and never again will I buy another ford/mazda.
I paid $21500 and now this car is worth $16000??
I traded in my impala and made money, I wish I still had my Impala!! Does Chevrolet have that much better holding value??? and no I am not a GM lover, just that this was supposed to be mazda's big answer and it sucks. So now I sit here loosing $5000?
Let me tell you about this car
Mazda's idea of traction control, when wheel spins shut motor down, what a joke!!.
radio, absoluty sucks, static and mild distortion all the time and no after market kit(this is another indication mazda does not give a crapt about support)
performance , I have no power unless I am at 4-5000 rpm's, I think Mazda is again incorrect on performance ratings(they have been incorrect before,Mazda Miata???)
and quality I bby my vehicles so bad, but i doo have to say wheels have marks on( and I never hit curbs,CHEAP quality)
and interior does feel cheap.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
I don't know how you made money trading in a car, especially an Impala because they are all over the place and don't cost very much (like a Taurus). I would guess that not very many GM vehicles have better than average resale value. Unless you can get a new car deal which is way below invoice price, I just don't see how you can expect to make out very well trading in the first year or two, even if the vehicle has good resale value. Cars are simply poor investments, especially when you don't keep them for very long.
Furthermore, let's not get carried away with the complaints about the car itself, either:
- The traction control isn't the best I've seen, but shut the motor down? You're exaggerating. It doesn't shut the motor down.
- The radio in my car works quite well, and is better than any stock stereo I've had in a car (granted, most of them were GM/Ford).
- Do you really think Mazda cares if you can't get an aftermarket kit? They aren't selling 'em!
- If you didn't know that the Mazda engines usually produce most of their power at higher RPM's then again, you didn't do enough research before buying.
- No problems with my wheels, and they certainly don't seem cheap. At least they are painted alloys, which can be touched up without too much trouble. I've had polished/clearcoated alloys before, try fixing those once they get damaged!
- The metal looking panels do seem to scratch easily, but I don't see anything else cheap about the interior.
I'm sure you are upset about your car, but it doesn't mean Mazda sucks and that the Mazda6 is cheap. You can do a lot worse with your money.
At any rate, good luck with your sale.
I've got stains where raindrops hit the seat in the few seconds that I had the door open. I'm waiting until spring and then using some Stanley Steamer upholstery cleaner and then apply Scotchgard. Anyone try this or have any recommendations on whether or not I should do this. Another option is aftermarket seat covers? Anyone have a wab site?
The sticker price on the car was just over $23,000.
Sad thing is I have only had the car for about a month and I already wish I would have gotten the one with more options on it. It would have been about $2,000 more, but I already put about $700 into a new stereo (which sounds much better than the Bose anyway) - but the BOSE would have been good enough for me.
Part of the way I was able to get a bit better deal was because that included a $500 college grad discount.
I had to go out in the garage and make sure the car I bought a few months ago was the Mazda 6s.
Yep, it is, but it doesn't in any way resemble your description.
Mine has about 4,500 miles on it and has been flawless. The ride is unbelievably compliant and at the same time the handling is comparable to any front-drive sedan, and maybe not so far away from a couple of rear drives as well.
Taking issue with the interior quality is fair, but overall, to me, this car is the best midsize value on the market if you want a car that looks good and is fun to drive. I believe over time, as more people come to appreciate this car's assets, that its resale will improve a bit. Of course, the MZ6 will never equal the resale of an Accord or Camry, though.
On the bright side, if you managed to make money trading in an Impala, you should make a killing with a MZ6
These are my suggested options for the 6i.
* Bose Audio @ Moonroof Package
* Convenience Package
* Automatic Transmission
* Door Edge Guards
* Fog Lights
* Rear Mud Guards
I've chosen Silver Metallic as the color.
I used the Mazda website to build the car and their MSRP is $23,580.
Kelley Blue Book invoice price is $21,017.
Kelley Blue Book new car price is $21,753.
So, I figure if I purchase i will be spending between 21G-22G, is that a good deal?
But upon further review The 2005 Honda Accord EX 4cyl automatic/no leather. Kelley Blue Book new car price is $21,758, only a five dollar difference.
Which is the better buy, truthful opinions please.
The Accord is a nice car, but very popular in NYC, i dont see too many Mazda 6 on the road. Like I said earlier my heart is really set on the Mazda, but who knows the newly designed 2006 Jetta due to come out next month may add to my choices. Help please!
I had a Jetta and loved how it drove and felt, but the rough ride compared to the MZ6, and the issues with the long term performance caused me to trade it in before I had any problems - plus I love the MZ6.
I haven't heard too many good things about the looks of the 2006 Jetta, so I don't know about that one...but it is mostly a preference thing.
As far as the MZ6 is concerned, since you want an AUTO, I would say definitely go for the 2005. Apparently the 6 speed makes all the difference.
If you were in for a stick, I wold say try to get your hands on an 04 manual - they are dirt cheap right now, and you could likely get one with the v6 for about the same price - if not less.
I testdrove both, and I couldn't handle the lack of power from the 4 cylendar. So, if you are set on the 4 cyl. don't drive the v6 - you will like it too much .
What I can say about the Jetta, the interior materials are nicer than the MZ6, and the paint job is one of the best I have seen from a durability standpoint.
I say, stick with the 6 and have fun with it - with all the packages you are getting it will be nice.
I am very happy with mine so far. No expenses other than routine maintenance. The fake metal parts scratch easily but other than that I think the interior is very good and my radio works just fine. Maybe interference in the area where you drive?
99.9% of the time a car is a depreciating asset. To think you will make money or break even on one is just plain foolishness.
Did you drive both? I didn't drive the I4 models, but when comparing the V6 equipped models, I found the Accord provides a rather bland driving experience compared to the Mazda6.
I also think that the Mazda6 is much more attractive than the Accord. In my opinion the last generation Accord looked ok, but this new one just strikes me as odd looking.
If reliability and resale value are high priority for you, the Accord may have the edge but otherwise I just don't see a huge reason to choose it over the Mazda6 unless you are loyal to Honda or want to drive something lots of other people have.
Good luck.
Also, the Accord's resale is much better than the Mazda. It doesn't look as good or handle as well, but the Accord is the better 4-cylinder, especially for the same money.
Now, the 6-cylinder comparison is a different story all together. The Honda 6 is still better than Mazda's, but the Mazda 6-cylinder is pretty good.
If you're in no rush, wait on the '06 Jetta. It looks sweet, but it's going to be pricey. You can probably get a pretty well-equipped 6s for what the new Jetta will cost you.
Bill
After reading some of the posts here, is $16k out of the question (too low)? 17k?
The Accord is a nice car, but very popular in NYC, i dont see too many Mazda 6 on the road. Like I said earlier my heart is really set on the Mazda, but who knows the newly designed 2006 Jetta due to come out next month may add to my choices. Help please!"
About the 06 Jetta uh a Jetta in its first year? I don't trust a Jetta in its first year of bodystyle. The current generation of Jetta has had alot of problems. If I was you maybe wait and buy an 07 Jetta so all the kinks will be worked out. Maybe I would trust a Passat in its a first year but a Jetta? No.
Personally I am a both a Honda and Mazda fan but this is the first Accord ever I dislike the exterior styling totally. The coupe is ok looking though.
Oh yeah as far as a depreciation hit is concerned if you keep it for 5 years I don;t think depreciation will be a factor(maybe a little though.) If you buy a car outright and keep it keep it for 3 years depreciation will definately be a factor. Thats why some people don't not buy Mazda's and buy Honda and Toyota because they hold their value a little better. After 5 years you can wash your hands with resale value of any car I think though.
What poor build quality of the interior? You sat in it before you bought it right? I don't understand. It looks like you have buyers remorse maybe.
What do you mean the quality has decreased from the 01 MPV to the 04 6? Have you had any problems with the 6? Is that what you are saying?
I'm getting tired of people saying oh Mazda;s quality has decreased. I sat in the current Toyota Camry and I didn't think the interior was better than the 6(not even close.)
Any further postings off the subject of pricing and buying the Mazda6 will be deleted.
any feedback would be greatly appreciated.
I test drove both the 6s and 6i, and I must say that the 6s is much more impressive. As far as the KBB is concerned - I noticed that as well.
Basically, if you have to pay anything over $15K for a used 6i, it may be worth it to get a new 2004 6s for about 3-4k more. One thing you can look at is a lower interest rate on a new car versus a used one. Granted, probably only 1% lower, but it will help offset some of the cost.
We all have different financial contraints, but a mazda6 is a nice car none the less. One thing you do get with the 6s is slightly sexier interior climate controls on the console.
It is march now, and I just read an article on Bankrate that said car manufacturers have between 60-97 days of inventory on the lots right now where they like to keep them between 30-60 days of inventory.
My 6s has everything you wanted except for the 6 speed transmission. But you will be getting a V6 instead of a 4 cylinder. The MSRP for a 04 V6 on what you discribed is $26000. Minus 6000 and or what your negotiating skills might be, you can have a Mazda 6s for around $19000-20000.
It gets better if you want a '04 Mazda 6s wagon. If you go to Ricart.com, look for the special coupons. They are offering a '04 Mazda wagons for $7000 off. So technically you can get a V6 Mazda for around $15000.
rhv
Chill out man! I never said build quality, it is the material quality! As a 2001 MPV owner for the past four years and a 2004 6 owner for last few months, I think I have some experience and knowledge about the quality of Mazda. I purchased my 6S in December for $17,400 + tax & title. I think my metallic red is a hot looking car and I enjoy it. However, I can tell you that the quality and gap tolerances of my 01 Sand Mica w/Beige interior MPV is far better than the Tan Interior of my 2004 6S.
I also have been shopping for a new van and I am unimpressed with the interior on the 05MPV. The interiors of all of these Mazdas are well designed, ergonomically solid, but IMO the cloth seats and floor carpeting are on the low end.
I am partial to tan/beige interiors, I've heard a lot of the issues are with this color and that the gray and black cloth holds up much better. Yes, I did sit in this car before I drove it, but now I've carried some passengers and the material just is not holding up.
The exterior quality and performance are great. I'd highly rate this car, but I'd like to see Mazda make this car rate a 10 rather than a 9. They are one step away, improve the interior quality!
And relax dude, don't stroke out on me over a posting to a bulletin board.
Thanks.
Sorry Host, had to clarify my position to carguy. Is problems and solutions the right place for this discussion.
Thanks for the cooperation!
Yeah, I'd like to keep it around 14 or 15 tops. Definately not over 16. I've seen them listed anywhere from 14 up to about 20k. really, if they're asking 16 or 17, I would hope I could talk them down a bit, say 1-2,000. I quickly did an estimate of a new one and the MSRP came to 21k with the invoice at around 19. So really, if I play my cards right I would hope I don't have to go over $15. A trade in would help, but I'm not expecting more than 500-700 for my 89 camry with 181k and a couple of dings in it. It seems like the ones around 14-15K have between 20k-25k miles, while the $16k and up range stay under 15,000 miles. Anyway, guess I'm just curious how much I can expect to try and talk them down, if thats even possible to estimate.
BK
I am in a process of buing a new 2004 Mazda6s , but can’t really find a detailed info on the invoice price anymore for that year. The vehicle’s MSRP is $24615, which includes 5-Spd Auto, sport package with spoiler, ULEV emission equipment, and in dash 6-disc CD changer, but unfortunately none of the web sites offer invoice price for new 2004 models anymore. The invoice I found on one web site was $22533. Does it sound about right?
The dealer’s offer is $21,934 + 6% NJ tax which is $23,250 and then he subtracts the rebate of $4,000(do I have to pay taxes on a cash rebate to customer, supposedly in some states that’s not a requirement, I’m in NJ). The total then is $19,250 + the fees( according to the dealer $447.5 for title, registration, doc. fees, however Motor vehicle charges only $240). So the final price is $19,697. Excluding tax and the fees the price would be $18,160 which is $6,455 off of MSRP. I guess considering that it is already a March, I should be aiming to be at least $7,000 below the MSRP. What is everybody thinking? Please advise.
Thanks a lot.
Got another question. I just got a MZ3 loyalty e-mail yesterday. It states in part that a $500 certificate will be mailed by snail mail to use toward a MZ3 OR ANY other Mazda for current owners/leasees. Anybody seen it? or use it?
Thanks, people!
"I also have been shopping for a new van and I am unimpressed with the interior on the 05MPV. The interiors of all of these Mazdas are well designed, ergonomically solid, but IMO the cloth seats and floor carpeting are on the low end."
"I am partial to tan/beige interiors, I've heard a lot of the issues are with this color and that the gray and black cloth holds up much better. Yes, I did sit in this car before I drove it, but now I've carried some passengers and the material just is not holding up."
"The exterior quality and performance are great. I'd highly rate this car, but I'd like to see Mazda make this car rate a 10 rather than a 9. They are one step away, improve the interior quality!"
"And relax dude, don't stroke out on me over a posting to a bulletin board."
I understand your posting. I have more to say but can't say it here on this board because its only the price paid board. I'll talk to you on the "Mazda 6 Sedan" board if you want.
It also will take a couple of months to build the car. My question is this: How do I time the order to maximize the potential rebates? I imagine at some point this year they will cease to allow '05s to be ordered and will switch to '06s. If I put an order in around August, it might show up in October, when (hopefully) the fall rebates are higher? What does everyone think? What were rebates like last summer and fall? What time of year offers the highest rebates? When do they usually switch over to the new model year vehicles?
Thanks!
rhv
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
I haven't sat in a wagon with a moonroof, but the dealer claimed that they were the same for headroom as the 5-door.
Did you vehicles both with and without the power seat? That may make a difference. Sometimes the power seats have more or less travel than the mechanically adjusted ones.
The rebates last year (this was in Florida; incentives usually vary by regions) were $1,500 from the spring until Nov. 1, when they jumped to $3,000 (sedan/hatch) and $4,000 (wagon). There was also zero percent financing in lieu of the rebate.
Rebates are usually applied at delivery, not at the time of order.
I'm not getting offers that are as good - one dealer is offering 18,700 on a sticker of 24k, another offering 20,500 on a sticker of 26,500.
Has anyone actually gotten a price that's $6500 or better below sticker? I want to press harder if I know someone else has succeeded.
Thanks for any help!
Order to delivery of a domestic built mazda is apx 2-4 months...allocation usually runs in the second week of the month.
Incentives at the time of delivery apply..also any price increases will apply also. Mazda does not lock in order prices or incentives. FYI, Mazda usually jumps prices twice right near the end of each model year. It softens the new year intro price increases.
Hope this helps clarify when you should order your new car.