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Can a mtn. bike or two fit inside with the rear seats down or removed and once there, can they be secured (with bungee cords, I suppose)?
Can you use it as a makeshift tent to sleep in when you and your kid move into the xB from the tent during the Boy Scout campout and heavy thunderstorm?
Anybody using the xB like a Honda Element?
I thought RhodeGear offered a pantograph drop-down model, but I just checked their web site and could not find anything.
Yakima and Thule products seems to be pretty well price protected, so it doesn't seem to matter where you go and the price is the same. (If anyone can recommend a discount on-line site, however, please chime in.) Your best bet might be to purchase with a retailer coupon.
Since we're on the xB forum, can you tell me if a regular 26" mtn. bike will fit inside the xB? I don't want to haul one down to the dealership and scratch the bumper or inside plastics.
Thanks in advance.
By the time we were done, the difference between the xB and CR-V was a couple grand, and so I chose the CR-V.
Thanks to all who answered my questions. I look forward to seeing Scion succeed and create more interesting and versatile vehicles.
-juice
-juice
I was surprised by such a low offer and decided to try my local Honda dealer. I had told the Scion salesman that I'd provide my maintenance paperwork as well as showed the salesman that the vehicle was certified by Honda until the summer of 2006. Oh well...
I thought about selling but seeing that the CR-Vs were at the end of the model year and getting good prices, I decided to go ahead and let the Honda dealer do a trade deal on my Accord.
I'm satisfied. I like driving it. I also liked driving the xB. I'm afraid I fall into the older-than-the-target-group market for the xB. But I appreciate it when a company puts some clever touches into their products, and Scion certainly does that.
All other things being equal, any how.
-juice
When shopping the Scions, I wondered why they didn't take the stretched wheelbase of the xB and put the xA on it. That might have settled the ride down a little, as well as put more "crumple zone" behind the rear seats, for safety sake.
The best thing about the xB, in my experience, was the volume of space between the driver's seat and the front windshield. I could hardly grab the rearview mirror to adjust it, it was so far away. But you felt like you were in a giant vehicle and very safely back from the front of the vehicle.
-juice
$3500 for an aftermarket supercharger. Not a wise use of money IMO. Better off to buy a faster car.
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First thought of the TDI Jetta wagon---I don't want to give up the roominess of my wagon. I am getting 24 in town with the Volvo, 35 or so on the hwy for the once a year trips. Plus safety and turbo and high hp.
So---what would I be giving up if I traded down in price to the ScionB? My kids are blase about this--I think they think I am too old to drive one--though I bet the older one would be happy to take it in another year or so.
I live where it snows, would most likely put snow tires on it---fwd is plenty good enough for me, which helps the mileage factor, as would a a manual transmission.
Are you all seeing high 30's in town,and hopefully higher on the highway? (Not that this would be a highway car)....
I don't know if my kids want to lose the leather and heated seats---I want reliability, good/great mileage w/o being a diesel or a hybrid...and something that has some room.
What do you think? I noticed that our local Toyota dealer now is the Toyota/Scion dealer. I may have to go see them tomorrow.
You gain some reliability and low cost of operation.
It is a pretty big change.
-juice
I say get the xB if you like it more than the Volvo, not because it's going to save you $ on gas.
"With an automatic, I don't get more than 25 in the city and 37 on the freeway. I really doubt that the manual is more than 1-2 mpg better than the automatic.
I say get the xB if you like it more than the Volvo, not because it's going to save you $ on gas."
According to edmunds.com, the MSRP for a base Scion xA or xB is also the TMV, and, as you can compute from the figures, runs about 5.3% more than the invoice (which is what the dealer paid for the car, unless there are dealer incentives or holdbacks--which seems unlikely with the Scions).
However, the TMV on the optional stuff runs about 40% more than invoice. This is one reason why if I bought an xB, I'd buy a base xB with nothing extra. The car already has what I need or want, except cruise control and side air bags, which aren't available.
--John
Niels
$575 sounds way high.
-juice
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Does anyone know for a fact how easy or hard it is to remove the rear seats in either a 2004 or 2005 xB?
Thanks,
John
Also, I installed the front strut tower brace and the body lean has been greatly reduced. The traction control and stability control are very effective in heavy rain storms, but I will better know how these systems react once the winter comes to Michigan...expect a report then.
Does anybody out there know if you can
get a roof rack on an xB? (Stock or not)
Does anyone currently have a roof rack?
Does anybody really care?
I just drove an xB (auto) and I am
ready to give up my lil' red ECHO,
which I really dig.....
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You can get a Yakima roof rack through Scion. It cost $200 plus. I have seen one on an xb with bicycles on top.
Niels
Would this greatly affect the power of the engine?
If you throw 20 bags of top soil in there, you're talking about 1000 lbs. You're gonna need torque to pull that safely.
I would recommend an Element but payload is actually weaker with that model, it's just the hose-out interior would come in handy.
Vibe and Matrix also have a non-carpeted cargo area I believe.
Or just get a sturdy liner for an xB, should do the trick.
-juice
Not sure about liners, I don't own an xB. :-)
Anyone have one or seen one?
-juice
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Micweb, thanks for all of that great info :)It makes a lot of sense.
Funny thing is, I test drove the Santa fe, the tuscon and the Honda crv today, but I liked NONE of them better than the xb--even though they all had more power. So power is definitely not everything, and I agree Micweb, I really do think the xb has enough. So, I'm not going for the CAI. As an aside, the Pioneer stereo on the xb blows all of the above vehicles out of the water! I'm going with the 6-cd changer upgrade.
The salesperson and his assistant manager tried to talk me into leather seats. They quoted me a whopping $1500. Thought about it briefly, but, Nah, I won't get it. The xb dosen't need it. The seats are stylish and comfy enough
The scion sales dept. was so totally different from the Hyundai guys. Scion was pleasant, helpful and no pressure. On the other hand, the Hyundai people were ridiculous. Obnoxious, sleezy and pushy. I couldn't wait to get out of their fast enough.
Anyway, can't wait for my check to clear so I can get my box!!
Marion
"Micweb, I'm probably going to get the cargo cover at some point. I live in a pretty safe area, so I can wait on that. Do you think I need the foglights, though? I live in Southern California."
The only time I had foglamps, they were pretty useless the only two times I ran into fog. Fog is fog. Foglamps are supposed to reflect less back into your eyes than regular headlamps, but they can't "see" into the fog any better.
I think they look neat, but I wouldn't get them except on a car where if you leave them off it looks like something is missing (like the Subarus). Otherwise I'd spend my money elsewhere. But hey, if you like them, that's all that really matters (like oversize wheels!).
Your reply makes a lot of sense to me as I'm a practical kind of person. If I don't really need 'em, think I'll take your suggestion and spend the money on something else
Marion
LOL
Thanks!