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Honda Odyssey Future Models
Aside from all the rumors, is there any real information about changes and/or new features on the 2004 Odyssey? What has anybody heard?
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#162 of 162 And on that note by steve_ HOST Feb 04, 2003 (2:22 pm)
Since the redesign is so speculative, we're going to shut down this "year specific" discussion and ask everyone to join in over in Honda Odyssey Owners: Future Models. If you hurry, you can get "first post"!
Steve, Host
This entire board is getting to big just because of the people who are to ..... to look for the correct discussion. Please do not keep starting repeating discussions or it will be a nightmare.
STEVE, why don't you delete some of these?
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Date: May 13, 2004 05:25
Submitted by: danielgr
Source: Honda World
Credibility Rating: N/A
Tokyo, May 13, 2004--Honda Motor Co., Ltd. today announced the introduction to the Japanese market of its new flagship minivan, the next-generation, premium 8-passenger Elysion, featuring the most advanced Honda technology and the highest levels of comfort and luxury for all passengers. The Elysion will be available nationwide through Honda’s automobile dealer networks starting May 13, 2004. Side lift-up seat and passenger lift-up seat-equipped models will be available starting June 10, 2004.
The Elysion’s innovative low-floor platform provides ample cabin space and a lower center of gravity, for enhanced stability, handling and comfort. Wide, dual power-sliding doors1 offer easy access to the second and third row seats, while a tip-up and slide seat mechanism provides one-step third-row accessibility. The three rows of spacious seating can be flexibly configured for maximum passenger space or storage, also thanks to the low-floor platform. A second-row seat rotation mechanism2 pivots second-row seats to face the third row with the pull of a single lever.
The Elysion’s 3.0-liter V6 i-VTEC engine features Honda's revolutionary variable cylinder management system, which shifts between three- and six-cylinder combustion in response to driving conditions for superior fuel economy at class-leading3 levels of power output and torque. Also available is a 2.4-liter 4-cylinder DOHC i-VTEC engine that delivers ample torque at normal cruising speeds. All models4 achieve a level of fuel economy 5% above 2010 standards, and boast 75% cleaner exhaust emissions than required by 2005 emissions standards, qualifying for Super Ultra-Low Emissions Vehicle (SU-LEV) certification from Japan's Ministry of Land, Infrastructure and Transport, making them eligible for incentives under the Japanese government's Green Tax program.
Elysion VX Type (FF)
Elysion G Type with Side Lift-up Seat (FF)
The Elysion features Honda's advanced compatibility engineering body—designed to increase self-protection and reduce aggressivity toward other vehicles. It is also equipped with Honda's Collision Mitigation Brake System (CMS)5 and E-pretensioner5, which assess collision risk, alert the driver to take preventative action, and mitigate injury should a collision occur. All three rows of passenger seats are protected by large side curtain airbags6 which provide protection throughout the range of sliding seat positions.
1 Standard equipment on VZ type, and available as a factory option except on M type. Left side power sliding door standard equipment except on M type
2 Available as a factory option on the following [FF] models: G (excluding models with lift-up seat), X, VG (excluding models with lift-up seat), and VX types
3 3-liter class minivans
4 Excluding device type designated motor vehicles
5 Standard equipment on VZ type
6 Factory option on all types (excluding models with passenger lift-up seat)
Key Features
Packaging and Utility
The low, flat floor, redesigned undercarriage and rear suspension enable all eight passengers to sit in roomy comfort, and provide a passenger cabin height of 1,265 mm.
Taking advantage of the generous passenger cabin height, each row of seats is positioned approximately 40 mm higher than the one in front of it, to provide excellent outward visibility for passengers in the second and third row seats.
In addition to the low, flat floor, the wide front doors and rear sliding door provide easy access to all three rows of seats. Since there is no step, passengers can move easily into and out of the third row of seats.
The power sliding doors1 on either side, as well as the power tailgate2, can be opened and closed automatically using the keyless entry remote control or the switch on the driver's seat.
The sliding doors feature power windows that can open fully, and the rear quarter glass beside the third row seat has a pop-up window that also opens.
The second and third row seats are equipped with a 60/40 tip-up and slide mechanism3 that enables a variety of seat arrangements, providing storage space measuring up to 1,300 mm4 in length with a capacity of 1,057 liters5. The first and second row seats, or the second and third row seats, can be laid flat. A rotation mechanism6 that enables the second row seats to face the third row is available as a factory option. Each of these mechanisms is easily operated with a lever located on the shoulder of the seat.
1 Standard equipment on VZ type; available as a factory option except on M type; left side power sliding door standard equipment except on M type
2 Available as a factory option on G and VG types with side lift-up seat, X and VX [FF] type vehicles, and VZ type
3 Standard on second row seat except on G and VG types with side lift-up seat
4 Honda in-house measurements
5 Honda in-house measurements (VDA method)
6 Available as a factory option on the following [FF] models: G (excluding models with lift-up seat), X, VG (excluding models with lift-up seat), and VX type vehicles
Design
Interior Design
The interior imparts the ultra-relaxed atmosphere of an ocean cruiser lounge, providing luxurious comfort in all three rows. The large, bright areas of glass produce a sense of spaciousness, the large seats offer a feeling of coziness, and the wood-grained panels provide an air of opulence. The well laid-out interior lighting further enriches the interior ambience.
The wood-grained paneling found throughout the interior—from the instrument panel to the doors—is molded to capture the depth of fresh-cut wood, while the metallic components add a sense of solidity.
The deep, dynamic lines of the wood-grained instrument panel extend horizontally to the right and left across the front passenger compartment, imparting an integrated feel from the driver's seat to the passenger seat. Raised gauge visors were also eliminated to create a flat instrument panel that provides a commanding forward view.
Blue interior lights1 illuminate the center console and second and third rows when the small lamps are turned on, serving as night lights that add a touch of luxury.
Three-dimensional, self-luminating meters deliver unique styling in addition to enhanced visibility. LEDs on the instrument panel project onto reflective lenses, creating a graduated display that offers hologram-like depth and elegance.
The instrument panel gear shift lever is positioned to permit smooth movement between the lever and the steering wheel. The straight lever reduces the distance the driver's hand must travel, for more ergonomic shifting.
Seating in all three rows provides the gentle, enveloping feel of a high-quality sofa, supporting passengers in true comfort. Covered in soft, suede-like material, the seats are gener
Model Debut Year: 2004 Fall
Mechanical Changes: V6 3.5-Litre i-VTEC
- Power will be increased to 250 and torque will be 260. Better Fuel Economy due to the addition of Intelligent VTEC configurations.
- AWD drive system, based on the current Honda CR-V.
Appearance Changes: Based on the sketches from Honda, PRETTY WILD STUFF! It still has it's boxy look. The Front has an increased height, Aggressive grill (similar to the TSX) Big Head Lights. Also a Sports version will be available. Other than appearance no mechanical changes for this model.
Feature Changes: 6(sports) 7 and 8 Way seating configurations. Heated-Cooled seats for front and center rows. Power doors will use the belt driven system. LID interior dash lights. HID headlights will be an option. 17' Wheels. Factory equipped Auto-Start sytem. Central Comupter with fuel, temp., mileage etc.. Roll Down windows for all 3 rows. 50/50 split back Magic seat. Dash Mounted Gear Shifter with a Manual Shift Mode option. Power Lift Gate. Auto Climate for All three rows. There are several MINI-VAN FIRST features that are useful, which i cannot release as of now.
So far these are the details that i know. Honda might unveil the concept model in the 2003 New York Auto Show but then Honda always waits until the last minute.
Will the 2004 model be released in September 2003 or September 2004? Sometimes manufacturers release new models early similar to the 2004 Sienna in Spring 2003.
Thanks for the info - where can we see the sketches of the new design you are talking about?
The information was also based on a early production van, there would some changes made.
Dollar for dollar, I've always favored Hondas, but I don't know if our Grand Caravan will last another year to wait for a 2005.
Any more details on the new Ody?
We have one year to go before the 2005 Odyssey rolls out.
Does anyone know what changes (if any) will be made to the 2004 model coming out this fall? I am sure Honda will make some improvements, it would be nice to know what they are.
Thanks!
http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/
The Japanese Odyssey is on the left - 3rd from the bottom. The NA Odyssey is on the right - 2nd from the bottom.
Interesting link. Guess this doesn't help our cause though. The Japanese oddy reminds me of the pre 99 NA model. I'll just have to be patient I guess.
so honda better refresh and get their new model out as close to jan 04 as possible.
this is a slooooowwwww forum no new info only speculation i'll wait
c ya on the flip side.
If you are talking about the 2004 model, then that will be coming this fall in September/October 2003. If you are talking about the redesigned model being introduced in 2004 then that will be the 2005 model.
I wish people would read what they type....instead of posting entries which confuse others.
It looks like the 2005 North American Odyssey will be significantly larger and Honda needed to fill the gap. I wonder if we'll ever see either of the other two minivan here.
http://64.58.76.136/search/cache?p=2004+honda+lagreat&n=10&url=TPLR8KgIZmwJ:sg.biz.yahoo.com/030405/1/39tp1.html
Saturday April 5, 12:06 PM
Honda Motor to release new minivans to compete with rivals Japanese automaker Honda Motor will release a new large minivan in the spring of 2004 and fully remodel the Odyssey within the year to bolster sluggish sales.
"Honda is believed to earn more than half of the profit in its domestic auto operations from minivan sales, but it is losing share in the automobile market to such rivals as Toyota," the Nihon Keizai Shimbun newspaper said.
By introducing new models, the company hopes to boost its domestic sales, the newspaper said.
The large minivan, scheduled to debut as soon as next spring, will fall between the high-end Lagreat, which has a 3.5-liter engine, and the Odyssey, which has 2.3- and three-liter models, the Nihon Keizai said.
The new third-generation model of Odyssey will be released later this year, four years after the current model was released, the newspaper said.
Honda sold 860,557 autos in Japan in fiscal 2002, down 2.4 percent on the year and the first decline in four years, the newspaper said, adding that its minivan sales fell 20 percent to 241,856 units.
"This hurt the automaker's profitability because its profit margin on minivans is several times that on subcompact cars like the popular Fit," the newspaper said.
The domestic minivan market, which accounts for around 30 percent of auto sales, is estimated at slightly above one million units a year and is growing at a double-digit pace, the Nihon Keizai said.
Honda used to be on a 4 year product cycle now extended to 5. That would lean towards an 04 model this fall. But many have reported that the current model would go one more year.
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/news/hondapreview.htm
Read my earlier posts for specs on the van.
Are you kidding or is this true:
2004 Honda City
2004 Honda Civic with 2.0 I4 i-vtec.
http://www.thaidriver.org/000-images/newcar/newcarvolume40/newcar- in/honda-city/009.jpg
Honda will see how their current model stands up to the new competition, which i think is right up there against the new sienna and the quest. If they do see losing sales, they might change debut date to early 2004 and sell it as a 2005 model just like the sienna.
The Civic is getting a bigger displacement for the new models and will be upto atleast 140HP with 2.0 I4 i-vtec: same as the acura RSX.
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Most of the options will be optional, some of those options were only in the concept model release in the vegas auto show for dealers.
The luxury features like AWD, premium sound system, liftgate, 17' wheels, HID lights, laser cruise... and you are taking the price upto $35K+taxes and fees. at this price you can decide to buy an overpriced minivan or get yourself an SUV (which would be my choice).
If we compare the odyssey's price for price comparison.. Odyssey is still the benchmark in minivans.
Even right now, if you look at the Odyssey LX versus Sienna CE or even LE, the Odyssey still blows the Sienna away, unless you add Side curtain airbags to the Sienna.
It would be tough to blow away the $42K MSRP '04 Sienna XLE Limited AWD w/NAV+RES. I just don't think Honda would make such an expensive animal. Shoot, if they do, they might just make it an Acura!
In terms of looks, the current Odyssey still blows the '04 Sienna away.
One thing you can defenitly expect from Honda - just the current model - the new minivan will have several standard features.
It's worth the wait for the new Odyssey!!! Otherwise i recommend the 2003 Model over any compeition.
- Odyssey is being restyled and reengineered for 2004 with an emphasis on improved performance, refinement, and interior appeal. According to Honda Motor Company, this involves more power via a V6 enlarged to 3.8 liters, and new features intended to make the cabin "more of an entertainment center, with things for every passenger to do on long drives." We'll see the results of these and other efforts fairly soon, perhaps as a concept vehicle at this winter's auto shows.
Why go from 3L to 3.3L? Why not 3.5L?
Why go from 3.5 to 3.8L? Why not go to 4L?
I guess they have to worry about costs.
Nothing specific, but it appears they are going to be responsive to Sienna's '04 introduction.
Sales in Japan have been considerably down this year.