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Can you give me the zip code of the dealer. I live in LA and want to buy my first Porsche (Boxster) but wasn't able to find a good deal yet.
I have a BMW Z4, but really wanted a Boxster, but finances dictated the former choice. I too like you feel the same way, but paying $45K+ for a car ANY car...shouldn't we as consumers expect...no, demand more??
Just food for thought. Enjoy the Boxster, hopefully, one day I'll own one. My Z4 is a blast, but it ain't no Porsche!
On the other hand, I drove a 2002 Honda S2000 for 2.5 years, 19,000 miles and my grand total maintenance - including 4 Mobil 1 oil changes, a 7,500 and 15,000 mile service, was only $305. Not to mention I averaged 20-22 mpg around town and 30-32+ on the highway.
How much should be I be paying for this car ? I am not sure if 34K is good price ? The car does not have any extended warranty, the car fax is clean and dealer says no collision damage but i am not sure how to verify that. Any advice will be really appreciated on what i should be paying ?
thanks for the help.
I bought what I wanted...well almost...I wanted a Porsche. Read my post again! The Honda S2000 is a nice roadster, but it wasn't on my list of choices.
I wasn't flamming you just stating what I observed from my buying habits and others. Once again I HAD NO DESIRE TO BUY A HONDA S2000! I certainly wouldn't argue their reliability. If I was trying to gain anything, it was maybe my satisfaction of which I have achieved.
When I begin a topic on low maintenance sports cars I'll be sure to let you know! Until then stick to the discussion.
I read your post - perhaps incorrectly - that you bought the Z4 instead of the Boxster because you were concerned about the higher cost of ownership of the Boxster. (I had not thought there was that much of an initial price difference between a Z4 3.0 and base Boxster).
I do agree that those of us that buy high end cars should demand more reliability and be able to expect good quality customer service. And in general, I think BMW moved in the right direction, whereas Mercedes has taken a step backwards. I am not sure about Porsche, but I guess I'll find out.
I dunno. My bmw has been cheaper than my buddy's honda.
It's usually bad to jump to conclusions from one data point.
dave
I consider all of my Porsche's to be very reliable cars, and I have put some serious mileage on every one!!! But, they are / have been expensive to own in terms of consumables or major parts that that eventually broke.
Not specific to omegagen but to all who read this post: Simply put, if you can't afford the ante, you should not be in the game. And, if you don't do your homework before buying a particular car, don't cry "surprise" when you are confronted with the "cost of ownership".
You should be able to find a few 2005s left with a pretty good discount. Try San Diego Pioneer... they seem to be willing to work with you! Good luck and let me know how it goes!
Are these fair prices for 2002/2003s S's or in the longer run am i better off going for a 2005 non S? The one thing that bothers me is lack of a 6th gear on the 2005.
Any advice will be really appreciated. Thanks !!
(1) It has 240hp - almost as much as the 2002/3 Boxster S (252, I think). Overall, I think the difference in performance between the two - acceleration and handling - would be relatively minimal. The difference beteen the old base Boxster at 217 hp and the new Boxster S at 280 is enormous. But not the two models you are considering.
(2) The refined interior of the 2005 is heads and shoulders above previous models, IMO. And the exterior styling changes - headlights, etc. - are also very appealing to me.
(3) The fact that the base Boxster has a 5-speed rather than a 6-speed is relatively minor, IMO. Porsche is very good about gearing the transmission to extract maximum performance out of the engine. And if you are like me, 90% of your fun will come rowing between 1st and 3rd/4th By the time you are cruising along the highway in overdrive, you will quickly forget whether it's in 5th gear or 6th.
(4) The fact that it would be a brand new car, with full warranty, that YOU get to break in, would be very important to me.
(5) Even though I personally favor new cars, there probably is a price for a pristine, low mileage Boxster S that makes good economic sense. If you don't intend to keep the car more than 1-3 years, that might be a prudent choice, if you find a great deal. But if this is a long term purchase, depreciation differences become less of a factor and I'd lean to the car you woould enjoy driving, sitting in and looking at.
Just my 2 cents.
I am in Southern Cal and it's in the mid to high 70's and sunny, and it is almost Christmas, so I have been driving with the top down often. Happy holidays.
i do want to keep it for around 3 years, which was a factor in looking at a used boxster S. The trouble is that i have come to realize that its really hard to find a "good deal" on a porsche here in the DC area. a dealer here wanted to sell me a used 2005 for 43k and another wanted me to pay something like 35k for a 2002 boxster S.
thanks again for the post.
Good luck.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
The 2005 base Boxster is a very nice car. The interior improvements and exterior styling changes for 2005 make it much more attractive, IMO. And the 240hp engine in the 2005 base Boxster is now quite adequate, vs. the somewhat underpowered previous models.
If you can find a leftover 2005, you should be able to negotiate a very good deal.
Good luck.
What I'm hearing is pinging in my new 2005 Boxster. At high way speeds any short burst of speed produces what sounds like pinging in the engine. The dealer where I've taken my car said that the pinging is so slight that it won't cause any problems.
Any comments.
jbg31792
As for the pinging/detonation, that seem bad to me. Are you using premium?
also, i have a '99 Boxster to sell - sell mine first; buy 'new'; then sell...if wait, risk losing that 'deal."
tks.
With regard to your 99 Boxster, it will probably take some time to sell it. Personally I would buy/sell separately, not have one dependent on the other if possible. And let the car you want rule the equation.
It’s not easy to squeeze every friggin’ last dime out of P-car ownership. Porsche is the casino.
;-)
May relocate to No Ca soon. Can anyone advise whether better to hold off, buy used 05 at 06 end? Or, try to get a deal on 05 (if I can find one) now?
Sorry you have had problems with your Maxima, I am a real fan of Nissan products.
Teenagers and Porsche's??? Sounds like a potentially dangerous and expensive situation. :sick:
Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Porsche and love my 911S, but the Honda S2000 is an extremely "prudent" choice if you are on a limited budget. And you'd have to get the new 2005+ Boxster S to match or exceed its performance.
On the teenage daughter question - the answer is how good have you been at instilling responsibiity and discipline? If she knew how to drive, I'd hand the keys of my 911 to my 11 year old (after she passed a defensive driving course). Unfortunately there are plenty of teenagers out there that shouldn't be allowed to dress themselves.
I'm a big BMW fan and actually really like the Z4 (having never driven it, I'm talking about pure asthetics and my experience driving other BMWs). But unless I see a 3.0i with a Sports Package, I'm not particularly wowed by it. It is a great car for the money considering the steep discounts, rebates, & factory backed lease programs offered by BMW.
The Boxster is a different story. It is an attainable exotic. Either Boxster or Boxster S makes my head turn. The people I've spoken to who own Porsches LOVE them. I had the pleasure of driving an '89 944 Turbo when I was 18 and I've been hooked ever since. I have a customer who drives a Cayenne Turbo and puts upwards of 40,000 miles per year on it (he just ordered his 3rd one). And of course habitat's recent stories of his gorgeous 911 S Cabriolet are great.
My 30th birthday was this past Monday. I saw 4 Black/Black Boxsters and they were just calling me. Beautiful cars. Right now there's no room in my budget or my life (our 1st child is due in September) for a 3rd car especially a roadster (my 2001 Prelude SH is small enough), but as soon as I can get one I can't wait to check out a Boxster.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
Only 45k miles??? Your S is spending way too much time in the garage!
Never heard a noise from the fuel filler area (other than the groan of my credit card at fillup time). The Tip is a noisy box, especially when cold, so there is always a bit of howl from the rear. I just try to drive fast enough to outrun it. The stock exhaust note on the 2000 model is tame by comparison to the new models. I suspect Tip noise is better masked on newer models.
The actual car i test drove was a 2005 boxster base with 5-speed. With a few options on it, mostly ones i wanted, it stickered at 52K. Seal gray, preferred package, heated seats, 18 inch wheels, two-tone full leather interior, etc.
The salesman said he'd give me "the deal of the century" on it. I don't know what that means, but the other salesman implied that meant just over invoice. I was thinking under invoice for a leftover 2005, but perhaps this is not the case in the porsche world. I do remember someone saying they got over 10K off on a leftover S, but i believe this was because of the redesign, and this car is basically identical to the 2006.
The car was advertised for a zero down $699/mo lease. Seems decent but not awesome. If i wait, i'm sure i can get a better deal on a z4, and that car has free maintainance, but i like the porsche more. I passed right by the BMW dealer on the way home--i should have stopped by to test a z4 back to back so i could try to resolve this issue.
It's tough. Technically, i can afford it just fine, but i was raised to be a pennypincher.
dave
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD
I wish that the oil measurement system was more accurate because I've been tempted to add oil only to find the next reading in a higher segment. Anyone else notice this?
Also, I'm thinking of changing the oil way before the recommended 20,000 miles (maybe at 5000 miles) just because I'm uncomfortable with break-in oil.
Now, base versus S. I wanted a tad more oomph but the power seemed perfectly adequate. I have heard the S is noisier and rougher, and i would be wanting to use the car for a little light roadtripping. Is the S much noisier/rougher or is it a matter of degree?
I bought a 2001 Boxster about 15months ago. My wife and love driving it but I have a problem. When turned off for more than an hour and then re started it will belch out a cloud of white smoke. This started about 6mo. ago and was relatively rare and small. Now however it happens 80% of the time and if overnight the smoke will be a huge ball filling up the garage so you can't see anything. It will stop after only a few seconds and does not smoke while driving. I have called various Porsche dealership mechanics and they have all said this was common with the Boxster because of the box style engine. I'm very disappointed with this answer as I have talked with a few other owners and they don't have any symptoms. My mechanic, a one man shop who works on various European cars including Porsche's says it most probably is a valve problem.
Has anybody had this problem before and is it severe.
My first Porsche and I am not mechanically inclined. TIA
Bob