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Toyota Sienna 2004+

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  • nofeernofeer Posts: 380
    MPV may have patented there method of moveing the seats.

    what about the legroom in the 3rd seat how does it compare to ody, and in real world use.

    wait--as time goes on options change, this is the time to get "early adopters" $$$$$ then reality sets in, especially as fall comes and inventories expand, what do you think will happen when the o4 ody hits the dealers????? as soon as ody changes for 04 come out sienna selling at discounts and better option packaging will arrive. what else is there besides ody and sienna for you people????
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    Link to some photos from another site

                        http://home.earthlink.net/~mcdodson/carsea...at/carseat1.jpg
                        http://home.earthlink.net/~mcdodson/carsea...at/carseat2.jpg
  • Full tank still showed full after 80 miles then started moving down.
    When gauge indicated 1/8 full the low gas warning light came on and trip computer indicated I had 15 miles left. After 10 more miles of travel and needle still showing close to 1/8 full, I gassed up. It took 21.1 gallons. How is that possible? Isn't it a 21 gallon tank? I appreciate any thoughts. By the way, FD 7 Pass LE in 50% highway and 50% city is getting 23 miles to a gallon (462/21) and the trip computer showed 23.7 miles per gallon.
  • kgnw1kgnw1 Posts: 94
    My suggestion would be to contact the smaller dealers outside of the urban areas. With the economy and auto sales being down, you should be able to find dealers willing to get a sale even if it’s not MSRP. Remember pricing is based on demand.

    I used Columbia Fleet’s pricing in my negotiations with a couple dealers since we didn’t need the van right away. They knew if they didn’t match the price, I would go ahead and order the vehicle through CF. But I would only contact them if you intend to buy the vehicle. CF will probably stop giving out quotes if people just use them to get dealers to match their price.
  • newcar35newcar35 Posts: 48
    Did I miss something? Last I checked, CF had written in to this board (on another string) and said that it can't sell individual cars to individuals; you have to be a business, ordering a car for that business. How is it that people are still calling them? Has anyone who doesn't have a business actually ordered a vehicle from them?
  • kgnw1kgnw1 Posts: 94
    They have a program for employees of certain companies in the OR & WA area. But individuals can buy through them.
  • We thought for certain the 04 Sienna was the van we've been waiting 2 years to buy, but upon 3 test drives, I found the driver's seat to be excrutiatingly uncomfortable, so we bought a loaded MPV instead.

    Has anyone else had this seat problem? I don't think the vans are selling very well either. I think the dealers are trying to get MSRP +2k and the public is telling them to go pound sand.
  • civicwcivicw Posts: 135
    I had a chance to look at the 04 Sienna yesterday. It's HUGE outside, but no bigger than the Previa inside. I'd like to see Toyota bring in a real minivan like the Ipsum or Wish to the US.

    jgeorgempv: My sentiments exactly! I drove my neighbor's Sienna XLE with leather seats and felt the driver's seat was very uncomfortable (felt like a hard wood chair), unlike any other car I've sat in.
  • Interesting about the seats. I am picky about comfortable seats but found a short test drive to prove that they were really supportive. Could you give your height & weight for comparison.

    For reference I also test drove the GMC Yukon a couple of times (last week) and even a short run produced a leg/butt cramp. However, my friend has a 2002 Yukon and the seats, now worn in, are amazing even on a long haul.

    I am assuming that some seats are like Birkenstocks. The harder materials will somewhat mold to the body in short order and last longer before losing support. I remember an article on the revised Yukon in 2000 stating that materials used in the seats were designed to last 10 years supporting a higher average weight compared to industry average.

    Just some thoughts.
  • mwaddomwaddo Posts: 30
    The wife and I just returned from test driving a 2004 Sienna LE. This was the only one on the lot, although we are interested in a pretty well loaded XLE (leather, DVD, etc). From the Edmunds site, it looks like a lot of the packaged extras come standard on the AWD model (rear disc, traction, etc.). Does anyone know if the moonroof is standard on XLS AWD? It does not appear in the standard items list, nor does it appear in the option packages. Is it not available? Alo notice 6 disc in dash changer is also not listed.

    Is this just incomplete info on the Edmunds site, or are there really differences between FWD and AWD XLS's?

    Thanks in advance.
  • tompo2tompo2 Posts: 10
    I just drove a CE Sienna for a week (800 miles)& it MAY just replace our old reliable (120K) Previa.....
    Most of the CE Siennas here in Jacksonville had no options...not even a Cruise Control!!
    But some equipped with Cruise & Roof Rack are coming.
    The week long drive was excellant......my MPG averaged 22 MPG hwy/city on regular gas carrying 5 passengers & all of their gear...the basic sound system (6 speaker am/fm/cass/cd) was good (JBL not available on the CE models) & seat comfort was good (I'm 5'6") and I had excellant visibility....the outside mirrors are a good size without being too truckish...
    Wife & kids said the middle & rear seats were as comfortable as the Previa.
    The rear storage area is so deep our vacation gear didn't even block my view out the rear window!!!
    Plenty of power in the hills of North Georgia....

    A few negatives-
    No cruise control on the van I drove
    I had several differant people ride up front..two of them said the wiper on that side of the van was too small compared to the (larger) driver wiper....I didn't have a visibility issue from the driver prospective
    The interior colors are too light...the Georgia clay messed up the floor mats....I would consider the rubber "all-weather" mats if they were available

    We are still contemplating buying a CE but i would have to special order it with the rear disc brake package...
    Anyone in the market for a 1995 Previa LE?
  • dadoctordadoctor Posts: 6
    An update. Sales guy from Dealer 3 in the Chicago area called back...came down to $750...but would not meet our $1000 off MSRP. I informed him previously that we had come up in options and from invoice. More importantly, I tend to set trends with friends and family thus can influence buying decisions and provide sales references. He didn't quite understand that a good reference is worth more than making 250 now vs $$$$ later.

    Dealer 2 in Central Illinois..the manager called back...what can we do to earn your business. My wife told him to match the deal, get us what we want for April, and we would sign...still wouldn't budge.

    Columbia Fleet...no complaints at BBB in Oregon and a member of the Chamber of Commerce in Oregon...in existence since 1993. To clarify CF only sells to businesses or individuals who work for companies that make fleet purchase...thus this limits their market. The downside..have to wait 3 months to get our van and need another car now. The upside...great price for a new model, the dealers must honor the vehicle warrenty, option packages are of our choosing. Just sent them a deposit check and need to pick a dealer for delivery.
  • twinmom73twinmom73 Posts: 17
    Hi all, I'm trying to "build" my sienna on the toyota website. I pick Sienna, pick 2004, it gives me a Java Script Error. I click on Model, which it lets me do. However, when I click on Packages, it says that the session has timed out. I do all this in a matter of seconds, so I really don't think so. Anyone else experienced this and found a way to make it work?
    Thanks!
  • canuck13canuck13 Posts: 73
    I picked up our AWD LTD yesterday. Only 86km on it so far. Three times I have noticed a severe problem with the transmission. When I am going slow around a corner and then getting back on the gas again it doesn't seem to be in gear...it is just like it is in neutral. Then it drops into gear with a bang and on you go. Has anyone else experienced this problem?
  • kenkneebkenkneeb Posts: 9
    Oh yes, I have heard that a 2004 Sienna w/AWD does exist, however, I can't for the life of me get my dealer to tell me when I might expect to see one. Anybody got a any ideas???

    Thanks, Ken
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,183
    Java stuff sometimes gives me fits too. Try again, and if you still can't get it to work, zap an email to the webmaster of the Toyota site (assuming you can get to a help/contact page). They can help you with your browser setting or help you turn java options on. Or just go hit the dealer this weekend - maybe some brochures or vans are in :-)

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Need help navigating? stever@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • kgnw1kgnw1 Posts: 94
    Don't know about Oregon. But a few dealers up here in WA have them in stock. I test drove an LE with AWD.
  • I have downloaded and printed the U.S. version of the Sienna Brochure and it seems that many of the features that are only available within an upgrade pkg are standard equipment on Canadian
    Sienna's.

    link to U.S. brochure download:
    http://www.toyota.com/html/shop/vehicles/sienna/

    link to Canadian brochure download:
    http://www.toyota.ca/cgi-bin/WebObjects/WWW.woa/5/wo/Home.Vehicle- s.Go.Sienna-hVTVma7HsbhAyVXhqn1f8w/13.15?%2e%2e%2fsienna2004%2fv1- 51080e%2ehtml

    Has anybody actually taken the time to figure out (taking in to account the exchange on the dollar), which consumers are actually getting a better deal?
  • bexcellbexcell Posts: 7
    Can anyone comment on the leather seats in the 2004 Sienna from dealerships in North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, or Florida. The reason why I ask is that leather on Siennas in the Southeast that are not ordered by the consumer is installed regionally and not factory installed. I live up North and need some feedback from someone who has seen one.
  • tinyguytinyguy Posts: 44
    I have yet to see a case where Canadian pays more than US consumers for automobiles. I suppose this is reasonable given that the average Canadian income is lower than US if you take into account the exchange rate. From what I have seen so far, often, you need to multiply the cost of the car in US by about 1.3 - 1.4 to get the Canadian price, which of course, is lower than the actual exchange rate.
  • terraeterrae Posts: 4
    Thanks to everyone for their replies to my previous questions! I would also like some feedback on the "extra" options. Which of the following would you recommend doing?

    * Underbody & Rust Protection
    * Fabric Guard
    * Paint Protection with Teflon
    * Extra Care Protection

    Does anyone have experience with these programs and how well they work?
  • nofeernofeer Posts: 380
    WOM---waste OF MONEY(money in dealer pocket--MIDP tell them to deduct pseudo services or go to another dealer
    I was some time ago looking a a car with leather, it was added to the sticker...i asked how is leather protected with "fabric protector" and laughed, he laughed too, with no comment. i moved on to another dealer.
    RUST PROOFING--LAUGH GIVE ME A BREAK check the brochure they describe the process...they are using galvanized metal as a dipping process before painting. LAUGH
    undercoating can decrease noise but come on now.
    Paint is already clearcoat and protected. like i said WASTE OF MONEY
  • murmalmurmal Posts: 25
    Hi,

    Did anyone got a nice deal on Sienna '04 XLE AWD
    Limited in and around VA. Please let me know your
    dealer details and the deal details. I don't mind
    travelling upto Philly, NJ if I could get a good
    deal.

    I really appreciate your responses.
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    ...so you don't get your post deleted and have to re-post - be sure and only post the name of the dealership and the city/state. No posting salesperson's name, email or phone.

    Thanks!
  • broncoguybroncoguy Posts: 39
    Last night I finally got a chance to drive an AWD Sienna. It was an LE (I am actually looking for an XLE, but this was all they had.)

    Biggest negatives: definitely a rougher ride than the FWD XLE I tested but smoother than my 96 Blazer, Baffling noise when rear windows are rolled down with the front up (really hurt my ears, but it sounds like this is a common problem with a lot of vehicles), and room available to reach rear seat with middle seats set next to one another.

    Biggest positives: look (it stands about an inch taller and I really liked the different feel of that slight increase), comfort, sound-level, handling (tried a hard-swerve to left followed by a hard-swerve to the right as a reviewer of a pre-production AWD model mentioned that to make the second swerve took a lot of strength as the steering kind of froze...this did not happen to me), body-lean was much better than my Blazer, room available to reach rear seat with a middle seat tumbled forward, and comfort in all seating positions at the same time (although I will likely not spend much time in the middle seats and even less in the rear seat, I require that I can feel comfortable in all the seats at the same time so if someone my size is sitting behind me, we can both be comfortable. Not many vehicles can meet this criteria. The Sienna does it well.)

    Other things of interest I thought of after reading some posts in this forum:
    Shifter-Even at my size, I had no problem getting up and walking from the driver seat to the rear of the vehicle...at no time did my knee or ankle come close to hitting the shifter. From the passenger seat, the only way you could move while at highway speeds, the shifter is even more out-of-the-way than for the driver. One would need to be extremely uncoordinated to hit the shifter while moving from the front to the back.

    Rear-seat: After some struggles figuring out how to get the rear seat to switch from up to flat and back, I realized the problem was not that it was difficult, but that I was pushing in the wrong places or at the wrong times. Once I determined the best way to do it, it was really easy.

    Middle seats: Again it took a little bit of time to figure out how to remove the seats, but it is intuitive enough for me to get it without too much time or struggle. I am a fairly large man so strength should not be an issue and I use that as a guide. If I am exerting too much, I am doing something wrong. Basically, if it is that hard for me, it would be impossible for my wife. Once I figured it out, the seats removed pretty easily and was pretty easy to shift and re-set into its other position.
  • htedj0htedj0 Posts: 2
    Try to reboot your machine, then try again.
    If persistent error still occurs you have to check whether your browser is enable to run a script (javascript/vbscript etc).

    This how to :
    Lauch your IE (I hope you are using InternetExplorer) - go to tools - internet options - security custom level - security tab - click custom level - find scripting - all below the scripting should be enabled.

    Hope it helps.
  • twinmom73twinmom73 Posts: 17
    Thanks so much for your help! When I go through AOL, get the same error. When I go through Internet Explorer - works great! Guess AOL has the problem? I contacted Toyota, they said they've heard the same complaint, but can't recreate it. Guess I'll just go through IE from now on!
    Thanks again for your help! Marcy
  • tlewis4tlewis4 Posts: 1
    Hi,

    Is there anyone out there who has been able to purchase an XLE without being required to also buy package 12 or 17? I am interested in the ability to purchase the XLE with package 3 only.

    Thanks, Tom
  • palmerpalmer Posts: 33
    If I go with the 04 Sienna, that is the package I want as well (package 3). I have not seen any on lots thus far just those loaded up with those high price packages you speak of. Maybe when allocation builds you will start seeing them on lots. The other way to go would be to special order it. However, if you do that, dealers will probably be less willing to negotiate.

    A Toyota dealer told me today to start looking for discounts on the 04 Sienna in a couple of months, so if you can hold out till then, it may be worth it.
  • bexcellbexcell Posts: 7
    I ordered a 2004 Sienna from Toyota Center in South Columbia, South Carolina well under MSRP with the package I wanted. You can order with factory leather. The cars that they have in stock (the whole Southeast) that have leather is installed regionally rather than at the factory. I live in upstate New York, but it's worth it to me to travel to South Carolina for the options and price I can live with.
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