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BMW X3: Prices Paid & Buying Experience
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I picked it up from the dealer yesterday night and it was snowing in jersey. There were some disappointments, the sales person promised mats but forgot about it. Finally, he gave rubber mats due to the weather. I will go back to buy regular mats as the parts dept was close by then. Major shock was when I did not see the controls on the steering wheel. I thought I will get the steering controls as standard. I believe it does in 325i. I wish I had got the premium package because I anyway ordered the moon roof and on board computer. With just few thousand more I would have got a lot more.
I drove to work (50 miles) this morning (using the Nav.) and the drive was great. It made me forget all the short comings. If I were to go back I would add the prem package. There were some flurries this morning and the road was wet. The car handled very well. Please note that I had mentioned earlier in this board that I was not impressed with a test drive. I think this is much better than many of the sedans (including my wife's accord). The brakes are good. The pick-up is fantastic as well. I drove only D, did not try the S D (sporty drive) yet.
I got black with black interior. The interior is great. I got black because I did not like the different color bumpers. However, you can get the Aero package with diff colors.
I drove the X5 just after the X3. X5 rides and feels more like a truck. Everything is heavier. 3.0 in X5 seems slower than 2/5 in X3.
The spare tire can be accessed by lifting up the floor compartment in the cargo section. I believe that the Nav is located behind the panel in the cargo section on the left hand side.
I'm lovin my X3, the handling is great, and build quality has been excellent, no problems or rattles to date.
Have fun with your new car, and when you're not driving, please keep active here. I've really enjoyed your informative posts.
For instance, does the X3 come with floor mats or should I ask for that now? Any other moves I should make before I put pen to paper?
BTW, this is a lease if that makes any difference.
Thanks!
I have a 1 hr commute each way and it has been a pleasure driving X3. I feel a lot safer driving this, with increased visibility and road grip.
vsroman,
Carpet depends on the dealer. I think some give it standard. Some add that to their invoice and others don't. I am sure they will throw it in if you ask for it before giving the check and the feedback. They are really concerned about the 5 rating. Also, I did not want to strain the relationship with the salesperson in case I need to go back for anything.
Anyone have the same problem or a solution?
Thanks.
SUSPENSION: Much has been written about the stiff suspension. I have never driven the sport package so I can’t comment on that. But I have “tested” the suspension on a notoriously bumpy road that I have traveled on for the past five years. My Pilot does have a slightly softer ride, but I definitely feel more in control in the X3 and the ride is plenty comfortable contrary to what some critics have suggested.
OVERALL HEIGHT: Even though some reviews said the X3 was only 1.5” less tall than the X5, it always seemed to me that the difference was more. So I actually measured both vehicles. The difference is almost 3.5.” It turns out the X3 brochure includes the roof rails to the overall height of the vehicle while the X5 brochure does not. That difference in height definitely contributes to the X3’s significantly lower C.G. and improved handling.
2.5 VS. 3.0: Besides wanting enough power for the worst scenario like four other passengers in the car with AC running and traveling uphill, I also wanted the ride to be as quiet as possible. From other posts I’ve read about the 2.5, I have found the 3.0 to run about 200 rpms lower at the same speeds as the 2.5. i.e. at 65 mph= 2.050 vs. 2250; 70mph = 2250 vs. 2450; 75mph = 2550 vs. 2750. For most others this is probably not significant, but it was a factor for me.
STANDARD SOUND SYSTEM: The standard sound is fantastic, even cranked up. Definitely better than the premium sound in my Pilot.
HEATED SEATS: Love them. They heat up instantly and they’re amazingly comfortable even for my 6’3” size. The side bolsters give me plenty of support.
SOUND OF DOORS: Like others have reported, the doors do lack a bit of that traditional BMW thump sound. I studied them at length and they are indeed solid and they close very nicely. I know that car companies do considerable research to get a door to produce the right thump sound which gives the perception of solidity. But the lack of the thump does not necessarily mean the door is not as solidly built. Perhaps the door just needs some additional sound deadening material. In any event, it’s not a biggie for me.
BLACK BUMPERS: Don’t know who really started it, but I’ve never had a problem with the black bumpers. In fact, I like them. I also like the painted ones. But this is not a luxury sedan. It’s a Sport Activity Vehicle and the black bumpers give it that sporty look.
INTERIOR MATERIALS: Though others have complained about the inexpensive looking materials on the dash, I really like that texture and almost rubbery feel of the dash. I did not get the PP. For one, I don’t like wood trim and there wasn’t enough aluminum trim to make a difference. I prefer the rather spartan look of the regular trim.
CUPHOLDERS: Lets just say it’s not one of BMW’s strengths.
FRONT STORAGE: If I had gotten the Nav, I would be complaining that there isn’t enough storage space in the front. But luckily there is a nice compartment for sun glasses etc. in the dash.
AUTO INDOOR REAR-VIEW MIRROR: A pleasant surprise since according to the brochure it was not included in the non-PP and I thought I wouldn’t get it (though I really wanted it).
ANNOYANCE: Don’t know if others experience this and perhaps it’s because I’m tall, but the illuminated “Pass Airbag Off” indicator above the rear view mirror is downright annoying when driving at night. Perhaps there’s a way to turn it off. Pretty much my only gripe.
Sorry for writing so much. Thanks to all who have contributed to this board. I’ve certainly learned a lot from reading the posts. Good luck with whatever vehicle you end up with.
It was very informative.Good luck and enjoy.
Best regards , Rudi
I just heard about this linkage from a friend of mine who works for BMW. I plan to ask him more when we have more time to speak but he said the navigation system and radio set up is the same as on the Z4 which means that when you change stations, the monitor comes up. Has that been your experience as well or is it just when you change CD audio tracks? Will let you know if he says there is a way to disable the link between the two.
x3r, yes I am having the same problem. I think if I turn off RDS this may not happen. I will try and let you know.
For instance, when will BMW switch over to the 2005 model year? I presume that if I can find a 2004 I like in stock when the 2005 models are coming out, then I might get a better deal.
What if I want to order an X3? Is there a particular time during the year when dealers are more flexible on pricing?
I would appreciate any advice that X3 or other BMW buyers could offer.
vsroman, I checked and agree that the auto-dimming is not standard with 3.0. My guess is that it is included when you order rain sensor. As with me, I got the storage compartment between driver and passenger free when I ordered the nav. I do not think you get anything by mistake.
I remember reading about the flash light in the glove compartment. I looked and found none. Manual does not mention about it also.
Any other comments now that you have had the X3 for a while now?
Thanks for your feedback!
After visiting a couple of dealers this past week I can understand why. Plenty of 3.0s sitting on the lot but no 2.5s in sight. The salesmen I talked to confirmed the suspicion that they're having a tough time moving the 3.0s priced so closely to the X5.
Dealer did not say anything about it. I had assumed it is going to be since my friend got it in 325i without prem. package.
Toward the back is a table that spans several pages detailing the standard featuers and options available on the 2.5 and 3.0. Under 'Interior seating and trim' it indicates the multi-function wheel is standard on the 2.5 and 3-spoke multi function wheel w/ cruise control standard on the 3.0. It does, however, indicate that the 3-spoke is optional for the 2.5 and comes with the Premium Package. Hope that helps.