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I'm curious...
When you first get into the car on a hot day, open all the windows and the moonroof and run the A/C in vent mode so that it brings in outside air.
Once all the super hot air is out of the car, close all the windows and moonroof. (usually takes a minute to get the hot air out or less) Hit the recirculate button.
Mark.
I really hate the chrome grille, so I look forward to seeing the car with this new alternate grille.
or meybe its true!
I don't care for the ford insured tuner package, but the availability of a nav is very good.
Finally we are starting to see nav systems in domestics OTHER THAN Cadillacs and Lincolns.
This combined with the more powerful engine (PLEASE!) will put the fusion higher up on peoples charts. Also, Fusion needs mp3 playback jack especially since they featured an ipod on one of the first commercials. The only thing left is for them to add the manumatic.
This car is getting better all the time. It should catch up to the segment leaders right before there next re-design. :sick:
Still, This cars really does give them all something serious to worry about!
2007 Milan
Extended recirulation can cause moisture build-up and stinky mold growth inside the HVAC system. In cool or very humid (e.g, rainy) weather, it increases the chances of fogging. These problems are more likely with new cars that are more tightly sealed to reduce noise.
Wow, I hope this means the Fusion and Zephyr have it too. THIS IS SOO GOOD! These cars are really doing it in the market, and are serious contenders! It at least shows that ford can correct its mistakes.
I can't wait to read the next comparoes.
They so insulted themselves with this one.
We need to wait untill more established agencies vote these cars as number 1, like (unfortunatley) consumer reports, JD Power, and of course, the most established, which is the buying public
36 (or even 38) should be fine. I've always run mine a few psi higher than recommended. The factory settings are usually tuned for ride comfort, not for optimal handling. The only thing to watch is the treadwear - if you see the middle starting to wear faster than the outside edges then they're overinflated and you need to lower the pressure. Otherwise run whatever feels best. You'll also get a tiny bit better fuel mileage.
Also, seems to be much less torque steer.
Can't believe Merc would say 33 for this car.
A dump truck would have been easier in a parking lot.
With this and improving gas mileage, my lingering buyers remorse should fade. Lot to like about this car. Thanks again!
I have looked at this car and wish to buy it. It looks like I can buy it with the "A Plan". If the MSRP is say $22,000.00, what would the approximate price be with the plan?
Thanks!
I have looked at this car and wish to buy it. It looks like I can buy it with the "A Plan". If the MSRP is say $22,000.00, what would the approximate price be with the plan?
Thanks!
Hi, I know this one. I'm not a fusion owner, but I do know a little about the employee discount pricing. From the way I understand it, you don't even look at the MSRP. The way the Employee discount works is take 5% off of the invoice price not the MSRP. So, if the Fusion is $20,000 MSRP i'm guessing the Invoice is probably about $18,750 something. Take 5% off of $18,750, that's your employee discount price. Also, I still think that you are eligible for any cash back incentives they have going on at the vehicle at the time as well. Don't quote me on it, but thats the way it was explained to me. If anybody has more specific information, please feel free to jump in. I hoped that helps
That is 100% correct. With the X-Plan the dealer is not allowed to tack on any extra "paper" fees either so I would imagine the A-Plan is the same.
X plan for a Ford is 0.4% below dealer invoice. Lincoln is 0.6% above dealer invoice. X plan is 4% higher than A plan.
Go look up the dealer invoice price, add destination and subtract $100 and that's real close to X plan. Divide by 1.04 to get approximate A plan.
The dealer is required to show you the invoice in either case and it has the A and X plan prices clearly printed. The dealer is not allowed to keep any rebates or other incentives including dealer cash nor are they allowed to charge any additional fees like documentation or prep or advertising.
That does not sound like much of a deal. I have nothing to do with Ford or any partners and neither does my credit union. I can get $250 under invoice just using my credit union's "preferred dealer network".
Although, they would typically add back in $80-100 document fee and not sure if the invoice that they deduct the $250 from has advertising fees included. Even so, worst case would probably end up not more than $100 or so above this X plan.
My mom married someone who retired from Ford. He has since passed away. She has purchased two cars under which she called the "A plan". She says (as her son) all she has to do is give me this number, and I can get the discount.
Is she misinformed?
thats not completely correct. From what i've heard, it's not just for the employee but direct family members. Husband,wife, son and daughter. I think it may also include grandparents. Now that I'm not sure about. But I know if you are apart of the immediate family you are eligible for the A-plan. The X-plan part is correct. How much they get off on that I'm not sure.
Of course it includes immediate family. But at least one person in the family has to be a Ford employee - that was my point. I guess I didn't phrase it the right way.
A-plan pins are only good for one degree of seperation and in-laws who would be allowed if they were blood relations.
Parents, siblings, children.
NOT grandchildren unless parent co-owns
NOT nieces nephews or cousins.
Mark.
Never heard of this before but whatever they did has made a big difference. The air blowing out is much colder - if I set the auto climate control at 67 as I used to, I'm freezing by the end of my 15 minute drive to work. It's now set at 70 degrees!
Yes, but it's not going to convince anyone to actually visit a Ford/Mercury showroom if the Sonata/Accord/Camry's V6 advertises more HP.
The 3.5L is long overdue, but if they want to differentiate the Zephyr (soon to be MKZ?), tune it for a few more HP.
Yeeesshh pinstripes. Does it have a carriage roof as well?
http://carreviewsonline.auto123.com/en/info/roadtest/view.spy?make=Ford&artid=64- 472
I can tell you straight from the horses mouth, there's no such thing as calibrating it for colder/hotter climates. When the vehicles leave the factory, they are all set with a standard (for everyplace) settings. There's nothing to calibrate for that matter.
Imagine if all vehicles had such a calibration. The warranty/service dept. would be going crazy with "pre-owned" vehicles that have been shipped from one region to another.
If you believe something WAS done, and your comfortable, then thats great. Maybe something else was tweaked, but certainly not calibrated for a specific climate. I would be interested in seeing what was written on the work-order, or what would turn up on the Oasis report.
Gripes:
-The transmission does not have a overdrive or "2" selector for upshifting during hill climbs and overtaking. The transmission is rather slow to upshift, and I would want some degree of control over the shifting.
-The outside door mirrors are comparably shorter lengthwise.
-The sun visor kept popping out of its catch every time I flipped it down or up.
-The turn signal stalk is angled 45 degrees, making it somewhat cumbersome to use.
-The map lights are integrated in the dome light, in the center of the ceiling which is not the most convenient location for them. They are just too bright.
-The fuel filler door does not have a locking mechanism.
-The door panel already made squeaking sounds as I pulled the door to close it.
-Rear seat only has built-in headrests whereas many competitors have separate adjustable height headrests.
-The key with the integrated remote door unlock button is too big and thick.
-Texture, feel, composition, "plushness" of seat upholstery not as good as Acccord's.
-This is rather subjective, but I felt the gauges looked rather chintzy with the wide beveled silver rims and I never liked Ford's lime green dashboard illumination.
-Map pockets on front doors are too small to be useful.
-Suspension could be a little stiffer.
Anti-gripes:
-AWESOME styling. It runs circles around Camry and Accord's.
-2.3 liter engine has decent acceleration, is smooth and power is good.
-Combined fuel economy was 28.65 MPG with mostly highway miles.
-Audio controls on steering wheel are handy.
-Trip computer that computes gas mileage is handy.
-Minimal and straightforward buttons and controls.
-Auto-locking feature that locks when the car is in motion is convenient. Being able to open locked doors from inside without having to unlock them is convenient. Accord does not have this feature.
-Two-tiered console box with power point on the bottom is handy (probably taken from Accord).
-Steering is precise, probably owing to Mazda mechanicals.
Question: I read somewhere that the 2.3 engine is the same engine used in the Mazda6i and Mazda3s - is this true?
If my Accord was totaled, this car would be on the top of my list for a replacement car. I think the styling makes up for the shortcomings I've listed. Ford has a winner here!
I think with the exception of one or two items, most of the things you listed under "gripes" are subjective to the driver.
I don't think you should consider anything other than an Accord. Clearly, you would be happier with a 3 or 4 year old Honda than a new Ford.
The turn signal stalk is indeed awkward, I hate not having a locking gas cap.
I like having no rattles of any kind, however I do not like the view out the rear.
I do like the dash, not as good as the Accord though.
Even the tires are not bad, still can't get use pulling fast across an intersection and spinning the tires, this did not happen with my 2005 Escape, a fine vehicle unlike my 2001 Mazda Tribute.
If i just want to slightly increase speed it downshits unexpectadly.
If i want to accelerate quickly, i can't because the thing starts out in second.
It has jerky shifts and makes for weird throttle tip in. I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!
What I want to know is if Nissan can build a CVT cheap enough to put into a Versa for $15,500, why can't Ford get us a CVT in the Fusion?
Mark.
It has jerky shifts and makes for weird throttle tip in. I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT!"
Is the new Fusion "drive by wire? People have had the same complaints about the new Sonata.
I own a '05 4Runner that is "drive by wire". It acts somewhat different than a gas pedal that has direct linkage to the motor/transmission.
Here's the video, You need Read Player to watch it
2007 Mercury Milan AWD Test Video !!!
Also, I'm starting to hear rumors that the Milan will be available with the New 3.5 liter V6 as an avaliable option. Can anybody find out if this is true or not.
IIRC, the CVT was supposed to be in the Fusion, but was pulled at the last minute before launch. That's why the shifter doesn't have notches for "1", "2" etc.