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Acura MDX 2007
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I do have to say, the 2007 BMW X5 pictures/video are very sexy !
I am tempted to go German again, even though I have had problems with BMW and Audi (Audi was the absolute worse of the two, I cannot wait to get rid of it).
I am deciding between the 2007 MDX and X5, I have to see them in person and take a test drive to decide. I hate to say it, but I know the X5 will out perform and the pics look hot compared to the Maroon colored MDX pics I have been seeing all over the internet. MDX lovers please do not jump on me for saying that!!
If the performance/handling is similar, I do have to say at this point, reliability looks better then any picture!
http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-article?article_id=605423
http://www.automobilemag.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0609_2007_acura_mdx/index.- html
we were looking at the q7 because it does look nice but opted to stay with the japanese because they have never failed us in any way. they are reliable vehicles. the mdx does get a few more miles to the gallon.
here is a link i found somewhere for mpg on about any vehicle.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/2005findacarf.jsp
The most advantages of attracting of X5, it's named by BMW. it does have adaptive drive, Head up display(It's so cooool), sun blocking shields on every window.
Minus of these are probably 54-56,000$ based on those options, not reliable as 'acura'.(most german does) :confuse:
The MDX's benefits are 300hp(x5 is 265hp), Real time traffic info(which is mostly important to me, I am in LA!), SH-AWD, larger space, lower price 45-48,000$, more reliable than any other brands, Excellent gas mileges(Escalade 12-13 mile for Gal, common!!)
The minus are no window blocking shields, not soul attracting as looks(probably japanese brand, acura targeting as excutive dad or stylish mom?). low options than other premiums SUV( I like the fact that Q7 does have cup holder gets cold), ugly-fake-wood trims(looks like fake to me) in interriors.
I will buy X5 if they fit on $52000 and if acura goes on more than $48000, but I will buy MDX gets $46000 for full options if X5 goes more than $54000.
Anyhow, both are big money to me, but I willing to spend more if somethings are 'really valueble' :shades:
It has been brought to my attention that over on the Q7 board, there have been quite a few complaints from owners.
I wouldn't bother to go over there.
What's the point of getting a high status, good looking SUV if you are afraid you may break down somewhere?
I would rather go a little lower in status and get the MDX.
I would sleep better, plus it is also quite good looking and even though the "wood" came out of a test tube, the interior is quite beautiful, IMO and I look forward to sitting in one and hopefully driving it next month.
When the reviewers are saying it can handle almost as well as the Cayenne and X5, I have to check it out.
Sure wish the remote power operated tailgate wasn't buried in the rear entertainment system option.
IIRC, the warranty is 5 years/100K miles. It would make sense if you put at least 20K miles/year. Otherwise time will run out before the warranty does. For that matter, Acura powertrain warranty is 6 years/70K miles.
Also, the "knob" for the GPS instead of touch screen is another puzzle? Why would Acura switch to that when they had one of the best GPS features around?
Go figure!?!
So Acura might have something here in terms of handling. I somehow doubt it will be better than the X5 or Cayenne (those SUVs are really built with a focus on handling, not supreme comfort), but it might come close.
base- 40665
tech- 44165
tech + ent-46365
sport-46265
sport + ent 48465
#'s do not include destination charge of $670
Can anyone confirm?
X5 does have cool features such as adaptive drive, Head up display..I like acura, but their problem is 'not concerning' about high tech-interrior-features. Seems like keep focusing on mechanic qualities. I know honda got best engine technology, it's time to working on comfort features. Oh, most important thing that they must working on first is, spend more marketing money on 're-value their brand name'. :P
If I want a power lift gate, I should be able to order one without being conned into ordering a rear entertainment package I don't want.
This is the first Acura I've seen with such a wide array of options. In the past, it's been NAV or no NAV - nothing else.
The reason for this is simple. It costs money to make things optional from the factory. The more option packages there are, the more it complicates the assembly process. The more complex assembly becomes, the more money they spend. Bottom line... we pay more for less.
That darn power liftgate...is it truly that useful? I'm trying to think of times where you would really use it, and coming up short. Grocery shopping? Most people use a cart, no one really comes out with arms full of bags anymore.
And based on those reviews, IMO, top of the line MDX at $49K is a steal, if you consider its direct competition.
Like I said, I am going to drive the new X5 and MDX and then make a decision.
Has anyone confirmed the pricing posted earlier??
If 2007 MDX is priced from $41K to $48K as is being rumored, that segment of buyers are well covered. And then there is an additional option that didn't exist before. I just don't see how $3-4K in pricing is a huge deal in this price class of vehicles.
Now for those blindly seeking BMW, Lexus or MB, they are better left alone. May be they will learn something new, and show up at Acura. For that, Acura needs to keep doing what it has started.
- free maintanence: your oil change comes at about 10K miles schedule, not 5K. Would you do that to your beloved vehicles? Changing oil at 10K intervals? The 4 year free maintanence is nice, just factor $1K worth for it.
- BMW is unreliable. I lost count of how much "bugs" I had with this car. Great drive, but 1-2 problem per years. BMW has many problems with cooling system and sensors. Very expensive to repair.
If you must buy an X5, please take my advice, lease it for four years (matching the warranty and free service, etc.). Return the vehicle when time is up, you will be a happy (relatively speaking) BMW owner.
For me, I would never pay >$50K to buy a BMW again. I love the car, but it is just too problematic for me. All my Japanese vehicles had at most 1 problem during 7 years of ownership. I had at least 15 non-maintenance issues with my BMW.
I love the new MDX and look forward to replace our Odyssey with it. Too bad, it does not have the Smart Key Access that Toyota and Lexus have. I really love it on my Prius.
For me, there's just no comparison between the MDX and the RX ~ the technology and features just over-match the RX ~ the design, the powertrain, the console layout, the 7-passenger capacity, even the GPS features, are much better thought out than the RX, just to name a few!
Granted that I'll miss the Adaptive Headlights, Rain-sensing Wipers and Dynamic Laser Cruise Control (maybe even the Air Suspension) on the RX, and this is going to cost me about $3k more in actual dollar, I still think it's well worth it!
It seems that the RX is going for a more luxurious ride, and probably still as the MDX beat at that. But it's the "sporty" attitute of the MDX that I like, and I don't sense any of that in the RX, even though the MDX is missing quite a few options found on higher end SUVs (i.e. the ones you mentioned). Odd that Acura would omit these (and still charge a hefty price).
MDX Premium $40,665
MDX + Tech $44,165
MDX + Tech + Ent $46,365
MDX + Sport $46,265 (includes Tech features)
MDX + Sport + Ent $48,465.
Confirmed prices.
A few things are still up in the air: height to get into seats from the ground, not crazy about color combos, driving difference between base model and sport model. Don't have a need for the RES package.
Also, the base MDX does not come with HID lights, just standard halogen, correct?
That price isn't all that bad if you stick with the base version. I was hoping somewhere near the $37k range...maybe I can still get there if they start selling these things near invoice ;-)
Your comment on the leather seats is correct in that the Sport Package would have the upgraded perforated leather. However, all MDX would have the Xenon HID as standard equipment but the Sport Package adds the Auto-leveling feature.
Link to standard features & packages
I'm in the market now for a new CUV, but I can certainly wait 6 months until prices come down--they always do, once the initial excitement has come and gone and all the magazines are done reviewing it. In any case, I still want to see what the Mazda CX-9 and the Buick Enclave will have to offer, and I think they're not coming out until early next year. But you're right, I doubt I'll get anywhere near invoice in that timeframe.
I do wish we could get the Sport package without the Tech package, though.
I can see ADMs on this buggy for a quite a while. Sales will dwarf those of its little brother RDX. (The RDX should be seeing discounts soon. It isn't nearly as good a package.) If I were looking to upgrade from my 2004 model, I'd have my deposit to the dealer before the end of the day. Otherwise, I expect I'd be waiting a long time.
RL = down by thousands.
TSX = MSRP for about a year.
Orignial MDX = MSRP plus ADM for at least a year. People were still on wait lists 18 months after it had been released.
A quality control person had a posting on Edmonds that it is always better to wait at least three months (brand didn't matter) before buying a redesigned/new car or SUV. The posting had statistics too back up the claim. For instance, take a look at the Audi Q7 postings and you will see a few negative comments from early buyers.
With that said, I bet dealers will try to tack on a premium, but I can't see it lasting too long at all: there are just too many choices out there right now, and soon there will be even more. The CUV market is about to get saturated quickly, which hopefully will translate to more competitive pricing.
I'm with you on the RDX: not enough of a good package, might as well just get the Mazda CX-7. Acura is overpricing that puppy by at least $2k.
When I was looking at the Q7 they supplied the dealers a few SUV's for test drives and then you put in order. Does Acura handle new releases the same way?
I'm looking at sport package and leaving off the RES. Color will depend on availability. I'm not crazy about the color selections. If test drive goes okay will most likely put down deposit/buy.
Posted Sep 15th 2006 3:52PM by Stuart Waterman
Filed under: Car Buying, SUVs, Acura
Acura announced Friday the pricing structure for its all-new MDX seven-passenger SUV, which hits U.S. showrooms October 17. The 3.7-liter 300-hp MDX will have a base price of $39,995, and will be available with three option packages:
Technology Package - $43,495 buys your inner geek a 10-speaker, 410-watt surround sound audio system, plus a nav system with voice recognition, the AcuraLink satellite communication system with real-time traffic, and a rearview camera
Sport Package - for $45,595 you get the Technology Package plus the Active Damper System sport suspension, upgraded interior leather, model-specific alloy wheels and auto-leveling Xenon headlights
Entertainment Package - a $2,200 add-on to either the Sport or Technology package, the Entertainment option buys you a rear-seat DVD entertainment system, 110 VAC outlet, heated second row seats and a power tailgate.
All versions are subject to a $670 destination charge.
I have them on my 06 and they work great.
Also, my parents have an RX350 and every time we compare our navi systems mine comes out on top.
You have a good point, and I may be over-stating things, but also consider this.
While there were not as many CUVs on the market back in 2001, the only ones which were available were the RX300 (very popular) and the Mercedes M-Class (well reviewed and popular). Not to mention, most buyers did not distinguish between CUVs and the body on frame designs. Rovers and Navigators were the creme de la creme.
Also, while being a revamp may not be as sexy as a completely new model, consider the 1999 Honda Odyssey. That vehicle was both a revamp and some 15 years late to the party.
"I'm with you on the RDX: not enough of a good package, might as well just get the Mazda CX-7. Acura is overpricing that puppy by at least $2k."
Based on my test drive and what I'm getting from reviews, the RDX will smoke the CX-7. If you want that level of performance, the Mazda doesn't have it, nor does it have the luxury and technology in the cockpit. Nothing wrong with that, that's why the CX-7 is so much cheaper. The problem with the RDX is simply that there isn't a big enough market, yet. There are not enough buyers to pay what the vehicle is worth. While I think the RDX is a good vehicle, it is not a great vehicle.
Of course, that's a whole other thread.
That's correct. I would miss them, too.
That said, I've listened to the ELS stereo in the RDX and is simply blows the Bose system in my 2004 MDX out of the water. I would gladly trade the wipers for that sounds system.
With Acura, many things vary from dealer to dealer. You might find one that will let you drive a new MDX off the truck. Another might only allow test drives if you put down a deposit. (Deposits are fully refundable, so there's no reason not to give them one. Failure to give them a deposit shows an unreasonable lack of trust and won't get you anywhere with any kind of dealer.)