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Chrysler Pacifica: Problems & Solutions

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  • Yes, I bought a 13m and it was too small. My 2.7 Intrepid is a 14m. I think I will bring it to the dealer, ask who the 17year old kid with the impact wrench was that put it on 3000miles ago, ask for a change with my synthetic in hand and see what happens!!
  • Hey I have gotten the same noise also. I will try and complain to help your cause but some other new cars seem to be doing the same thing too. I think your right, It should be fixed. I was in a Toyota Seqoia (sp?) and it did the same thing to. Very stupid mistake in the design if they all do it.
  • hey, I am new to the site and looked in to this matter because of the Fuel starvation issue. Your inputs are enlightening and it is to bad that you have to go through the steps that you needed to go through, but thank you for informing others about the steps you took.
    What are those steps and did you do the leg work are was it all done by your attorney? I will be taking my car in soon to be looked at. If they do not promptly repair the issue I will seek an arbitration hearing as well.

    Thanks again
  • 3 times I have parked my 2004 on a slight inclined driveway. With the temp hovering around the 29F mark overnight. Backed down the driveway or did I freewheel down ? because at the bottom when I went to put it into "DRIVE" the engine revved up but the car stayed stationary. I tried in the manual gear selection but no joy there either. Car is in the dealers awaiting parts. Any clues anyone as to what is wrong.... I heard rumours that the computer does not like damp or cold overnighters ??
  • Forgot to add that when the engine has warmed up for a couple of minutes then every thing works enjoyably well but I only have 27K on the clock. I am sure the oil/gasoline companies must wish everyone would drive Pacifica's and keep them rich. 6 km per litre (approx 14.5 m.p.g.)is totally ridiculous for local 4-18 mile trips in very slight traffic 23.5 mpg on the highway
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,187
    The Pacifica is almost as large as a minivan. You can't expect sedan like gas mileage.
  • I fully realise that it is no lightweight in fact it feels as secure as a Hummer but the point is my 2002 Grand Caravan gave 29mpg fully loaded on my snowbird trips and 18/19 round town. Thats excellent...I can see why people enjoy the Honda Odyssey..You can save enough gas money for a vacation driving their latest.
    One smart Pacifica owner remarked "Get to know your gas attendant, you will be seeing a lot of him" and I thought at the time he was being funny !!!!! WRONG !!!!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    then drive a minivan.

    Our Pacifica gets only slightly worse mileage than our Pilot (and we got excellent mileage in our Pilot compared to the hundreds of posts I saw complaining about mileage in the teens). And, given the Pac is 400 lbs. heavier than the Pilot, the mileage per pound is dead on even with the Pilot.

    by the way, is your Pac AWD or FWD? Ours is AWD and we average around 19 mpg in mixed driving.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • bjbird2bjbird2 Posts: 647
    How does your Pilot honestly compare to the Pacifica? As an owner of both, it would be interesting to hear your opinions. My Pacifica lease will be ending next year, and as much as I like the vehicle, I always like to shop the market.
    This 2007 Toyota Highlander concept caught my eye recently. It's a beautiful design, at least in concept form.
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/FVDP/Preview/styleId=100531781?synpartner=e- - dmunds&pageurl=www.edmunds.com/future/2007/toyota/highlander/100531781/preview.h- - tml
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    We put 50k miles on our '03 Pilot before trading for the Pac. We liked the Pilot alot, but the temptation to get into a new vehicle after just 2.5 years in the Pilot and break even was too great (a testament to the Pilot's strong resale value).

    Actually, we were looking for an '05 Pilot to replace it, but the Honda dealers just wouldn't give us fair money for our old Pilot. The deep discounts on the Pac and the extremely high trade-in they gave us for the Pilot won us over.

    As far as comparing the 2, like I said, the gas mileage is very similar. The Pac is quieter inside, has more features, is more luxurious, and more comfortable. The Pilot, however, had a much smoother and more powerful drivetrain (regardless of what the hp/torque numbers say, the Pilot could run circles around the Pac), not to mention more utility (seating for 8 and more usable cargo space with the seats folded). So both cars have their positive points. If the Pac drivetrain could be up to spec with the Honda, it would be no contest. If Chrysler would just use a Benz tranny in the Pac like they have in so many of their other vehicles, they'd have a true winner, IMHO.

    We also leased the Pac ... sort of. Its one of those baloon note things. I'm 85% sure we'll be giving it back at the end of the 3 years, though. We really are enjoying it, but I just don't trust Chrysler transmissions past their warranty period, frankly. So I won't be taking a chance. Hopefully by that time they'll be using a better trans, and maybe we'll take another one to replace it.

    I think, overall, the Pac is a better bargain than the Pilot (taking discounts into account). We were looking at, if I recall correctly, about $27k for a leftover Pilot EXL (no DVD or navigation). For $26,600 we got a leftover Pac with all the features of the Pilot PLUS driver memory settings, heated rear seats, power liftgate, power pedals, satellite radio, and DVD system (oh yeah, and more airbags). BUT, if a better drivetrain and higher resale are high on your list, you just can't argue with picking the Pilot, in spite of losing those features.

    As far as that highlander, it looks like a neat design, but seems to me the third row would be either very cramped or nonexistent in such a sleek package. Besides, I've sworn off Toyotas for life, thanks to the pompous dealers I've dealt with in the past.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • fljoslinfljoslin Posts: 237
    Actually the Pacifica weighs more than the Town and Country (about 4500lbs vs. 4300 lbs) has a significantly more powerful engine and many have AWD.
    If you want sedan mileage, get a sedan. If you want minivan mileage, get a minivan. If you want lousy mileage get a cross over SUV like the Pacifica.
    We own a sedan (1999 Intrepid), a minivan (2006 Odyssey) and a 2005 Pacifica. The Odyssey weighs the same as the Pacifica, is much larger and more comfortable inside, had the same MSRP, has the same power engine and get about 28 mpg on the highway and 20 mpg in town.
    Our Pacifica gets 15 mpg in town while a 95 Suburban we just sold got 13 mpg in town!
  • Did chrysler fix your car with the "flash" info?
  • We, too, chose the Pacifica over the Pilot in 2004, because it seemed like a better bargain. Our Pacifica, unfortunately, was a lemon, and Chrysler bought it back from us after only 10 months of ownership. We had no desire to try another Pacifica. We have now owned our Pilot for the same amount of time and have taken it in for oil changes and routine maintenance. I have a 3 and 6 year old in the car with me 80% of the time, and just having the peace of mind that I do now - as opposed to the fear that I was just waiting for the next thing to break on the Pacifica - is priceless. Plus, the price of the 2005 Pilot came down so substantially that we were able to get exactly what we wanted for the exact amount of money that Chrysler gave us back.
    Visibility was always an issue for me in the Pacifica, and the Pilot suits me better. The Pacifica was just not the right car for me.
  • Well was informed that the reason the transmission did not go into drive on the slope was due to a leak in the txmission oil cooler. Unfortunately they dont keep those parts in stock so have to wait till they are flown in from Edmonton(Canadian West) Thats their say .. Well I did not seee any oil patches under the car as I looked for that. Mine is a 2 WD. I traded my 2 yr Grand Caravan in for a price I couldn't refuse and also got a good discount on the Pac. But have you noticed that Chrysler no longer spend money on adverts for the Pac.... Am I to presume it is a lost leader and that it will be goodbye Pacifica next year as they must have lost a bundle on it !!!
    To those who said I should buy a sedan if I wanted the mileage.. That would be nice I have had and raced Volvos all my life till the G.Caravan came into my life but leg injuries do not permit enjoying a low seated car anymore and the Pac is as comfortable as an old pair of slippers ..and with a better lumbar support than my last Volvo and a lot more nimble than the G Caravan.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    i'm assuming from the weight you quoted, you have a FWD Pac? I'm surprised at that mileage. I would only get 15 in our 4700 lb. AWD Pac if I hammered on it around town all the time.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • fljoslinfljoslin Posts: 237
    i'm assuming from the weight you quoted, you have a FWD Pac? I'm surprised at that mileage. I would only get 15 in our 4700 lb. AWD Pac if I hammered on it around town all the time.

    All weights quoted were from the manufacturers web sites. The Pacifica Touring AWD was about 4500 lbs. I think that if you "hammer" it you will get significantly less than 15 mpg. That is nursing it!!!!!!! :mad:
    Again, driving a pig of a suburban (1995, 6000 lbs +) with the throttle body fuel injection 350 (not multi point) without the vortec heads only got 2 mpg less in the city driving the same way, but in 2 wheel drive. That was also a ten year older design!!!!!!!!!
  • I read your above message. I will be trying to replace my front low beam headlight tomorrow. Can you give me more step by step instructions? How much does the low beam light cost?

    Thanks,
    Marty6
  • mrrogersmrrogers Posts: 391
    As you stated in your previous message, you will remove the two screws. I would place a towel or some masking tape on the bumper below the headlight to protect the bumper from scratches. I slid the light assembly out about an inch. I then applied firm pressure to the fender side of the light assembly. This pushed the grill side of the light assembly in slightly, and I was then able to carefully remove the light assembly.
    I purchased the PIAA bulbs on eBay. As I recall, they were around $50 for a pair.
  • After over a week and a half of not having the car they used the "flash" and now i am waiting for it to get below half a tank of gas to see if it stalls again.

    Last time it stalled a semi almost killed us! It stopped about a foot from the car with the trailer end sideways!

    :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: now i need to make lemon aid!
  • Just submitted on the NHTSA interesting that there are over 79 posting already for multiple reasons on the pacifica. Also I noticed a bunch for stalling! :lemon: :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • djagdjag Posts: 39
    The Pacifica Limiteed I have gets 18 mpg in town consistently and 26 on the highway. You must have a heavy foot. It drives much better than my son's Odyssey and is quieter on the road by far. Lots of plastic in the Odyssey but a very good design in many ways. His only complaint is the seats dont fold flat like the Chrysler minivan.
  • ON a side note How did you convince chrysler to take it back. My 2005 is terrible. I have attempted to contact the product rep whom I was told can authorize a buy back and the number she left on my voice mail. was a random exchange. No vocie mail. So now Im dead in the water. And the dealership will not give me her direct line!! Any ideas.

    :lemon: :lemon: :lemon:
  • We retained a Lemon Law attorney. We were not interested in trying to negotiate anything with Chrysler. Our particular car was such a lemon that Chrysler agreed to buy it back - no haggling at all - within two weeks of our attorney filing the paperwork. The first time we went to our attorney's office was to pick up our check from Chrysler. It was all handled via the telephone and fax. Very easy. In California, the car manufacturer has to pay all associated legal costs, so this did not cost us a penny. If your particular car fits the criteria for the Lemon Law in your state, I would suggest that you go straight to an attorney. I hate to say this, but Chrysler is in the car selling business - not the car buying business, so I would guess that you would have a difficult time getting what you want WITHOUT the assistance of an attorney.
  • I have a 2004 Pacifica and I have had battery problems since I bought the car. First I was told the DVD player was installed incorrectly. Symptoms are the same as I've read others have had. If I leave the tailgate or doors open to pack the car for a trip, unload groceries, etc. the car will either barely crank or needs to be jumped.

    After 2 recent trips to the dealer, the service manager reluctantly changed the battery last week. Two days after installation, the car would not start after I spent less than 15 minutes with a door open so I could install something on the roof rack. I have been told the battery is undersized by Chrysler and my brother, a Toyota mechanic.

    Today, my wife talked to Chrysler customer service about getting a more powerful battery. We actually offered to pay the difference in cost. They told us it could void our warranty.

    What steps should I take to get action? Any recommendations would be appreciated.
  • fljoslinfljoslin Posts: 237
    I'm sorry you are experiencing poor mileage, but, as you can see, that is not the norm, by any means.

    I just went to the mileage page for Pacificas. Quite a few 16's mpg in the city and one 11 mpg city.
    The Suburban only needed 87 octane vs the 89 octane the Pacifica needs making the difference in driving costs (15 mpg at 89 octane vs. 13 mpg at 87 octane) even less.
  • axr6axr6 Posts: 42
    The easiest solution is to turn OFF the inside lights on your steering wheel mounted lights stick. It is a rotating switch.

    Chrysler put too many inside lights into the car, namely 10 of them. When you open the door they draw just about the same amount of current from the battery as if you had left the main headlights ON.

    I had one dead battery situation and immediately suspected those lights. I actually measured the current drain to be 8 Amps. Since I turned OFF the inside lights, not a single battery problem, despite the fact that my Pacifica sits for weeks at a time without being started up.

    WHen you need those light, just open the door and click them on. It is an easy solution.

    And, yes, Chrysler did mess up with those lights and the size of the battery.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    I just went to the mileage page for Pacificas. Quite a few 16's mpg in the city and one 11 mpg city.

    short thread there, so i took a quick tally of what owners claim they are getting in city driving.

    we've got the one report of 11 you cited, and one report of 23.5. These are both far out of the curve, so we can toss both numbers.

    Then I've got the following left:
    15.5; 16; 16.5 (3 reports); 16.8; 17; 17.8; 18 (2 reports); 18.5; and 18.9

    So, like I said, your 15 number is NOT the norm. Average seems to be a hair over 17, which is right around my normal city driving number. I actually think I would get a bit below 17 if my wife wasn't in the car. ;)

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • fljoslinfljoslin Posts: 237
    So, like I said, your 15 number is NOT the norm. Average seems to be a hair over 17, which is right around my normal city driving number. I actually think I would get a bit below 17 if my wife wasn't in the car.

    Ouch!
    Different city driving I guess. Also, we run Mobil 1 synthetic and a K&N filter. I hope to take the Pacifica on an 800 mile round trip next week. I will post the mileage. I got 27.1 mpg in my Odyssey EX-L on this trip in Oct. and usually right at 28 mpg in my 1999 Intrepid ES, 3.2L. My 1995 Suburban would religiously get 15 mpg.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,325
    i look forward to your report. We have not yet had the oppurtunity to go on a long highway run with ours.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • Iv'e posted this before but we make a 600 mile each way trip to Tenn about 6 times a year and consistantly get 23.5 to 24 all the time. I reset at the start of every trip in both directions so its not a dragged out average of all the trips. I have even reset while driving to check out flat roads versus slight grades, and different speeds to find the best mileage. Its at 62,000 right now.
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