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I test drove an 06 terraza yesterday and overall really liked it. I just have one question? I currently have two children in car seats and have an 04 jeep grand cherokee which i use the tether(spelling?)straps that hook into the roof. Is there a place in the terraza to use this same system or will i have to use the latch system? Any advice would be great.
Thank you
December 5, 2005
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) has launched a preliminary safety investigation of the Chevrolet Uplander, Pontiac Montana SV, Saturn Relay and Buick Terraza because of a flaw that could cause the headlights to go out.
All of the vehicles in the investigation are from the 2005 model year.
NHTSA has received information that the actuating bar of the windshield wipers might cause damage or even cut a wiring harness that results in loss of the headlights.
In a related problem, General Motors issued a bulletin to dealers on February 21, 2005 warning that the wiper motor crank arm could contact an under-the-hood electrical center and "Some customers may report a stall and the no start condition after the wipers are used." :lemon: :lemon:
Dirk
Why not just have side curtain airbags?
That is exactly what I said. I realized though, that these vans are not entirely and are only dramatically changed, so if we want curtain airbags we will have to wait for a COMPLETE redesign.
I still wonder why GM allowed so many class standards (i.e. curtain airbags, power liftgate, and sunroof) to be left off these vans. :confuse:
The only reason GM did the bags in the seat thing for the back is purely the cost factor, as it is much easier to take the same mechanisms you already have designed and tested for the front side bags and just put those same seats in the middle--bingo, no extra R&D work, and you get some kind of bags in the rear area. Not a strong solution, but still a solution. Wouldn't have required a lot to get curtain airbags, but these vans still share so much with the old, it just wouldn't be monetarily worth it to a company with such tight purse strings at the moment--but wouldn't be that hard from an engineering aspect.
Went perusing three days ago for a minivan replacement for our 99 Windstar (which has been very bulletproof BTW). On our van we wanted heated leather, DVD, Good stereo, power sliders, 4 wheel discs with ABS and Stability control at a minimum. Started at the Honda dealer;
Honda-
Pompous dealers - acted like I was doing them a favor for checking out their van and asking for a testdrive. The powertrain of the van was excellent with some nice interior details and tricks. Really liked the fold down split 3rd seat. We took out an EXL and I liked driving it. It seemed to handle well. I asked about DVD and was told its available as a 1700.00 option. Total price would be around @ least 33K and they sell close to retail, hhhhmmmmmmmmm.
Toyota-
Dealer experience similar to Honda - whats with these guys? The Toyota we drove was an XLE to get all the options we wanted. Around 34K. Powertrain was nice, not as snappy as the Honda. Van rode very smooth and quiet, but handling was very soft and soggy - didn't feel as buttoned down as the Honda. Tight turning circle, nice seats, and good stereo system. Still no DVD at this price?
Saturn-
Dealer treated me like a guest. He couldn't do enough for me! I Asked for a test drive and he gave me the van for the day........WOW. I took out a loaded Relay 3. Every option on the list except all wheel drive. Including Onstar, DVD, Heated leather, 17 inch wheels, Power sliders, Awesome stereo, 4 wheel disc, ABS and stability, cool reverse sensing system, rail storage system, trailer package Driver info center, beautiful gauge package and more. Van drove great, more firm than the Toyota and less than the Honda. Driving position was excellent. Seats in all positions were large and comfy (as were all 3 vans). Powertrain was competent and smooth, although with noticibly less oomph than the other 2. It was far from lacking in power though. Kids loved the DVD! Only "downside " is the rear seats - they dont fold back and flat as the others, but can form a flat load floor none the less. Went back to the dealer and he said the MSRP was 30,700.
I wasn't sure if the difference in price was worth it. He then said BTW they now have 8k off the price. WOW!! Loaded for 22K - Youre kidding me!? Wife signed the papers and it's in the garage now. We're very happy!
All the vans were nice, but value wise between the 3 - no contest - and I found I prefer the SUV look vs. the Rocket boy styling of the other 2. Great experience - I'll keep you updated. Thoughts?
Did you get the 2nd row side airbags in the Relay? What kind of stereo? I'm interested in the 6 disk changer and/or the Phatnoise system. Thanks for the info.
Same with the factory Navigation...
"Must drive Odyssey....Must drive Sienna....Press says they are best...must get one....." :surprise: :confuse:
They suck into the "it's just a venture with a nose job....." and write them off the list - Wow, it's so much better than that! It really feels like a completely different vehicle - I've driven both and there is no comparison between the two. The interiors and mechanics are top notch and the value can't be touched!
Congrats on the Uplander success story - I think your story with the Uplander is MUCH more common than the people on these boards and the press think.........I will add my Relay story this time next year...!
Odie
Odie
Why wouldnt this vehicle qualify for a lemon law?
My question is this: If you have the DVD player playing a movie, can the front seats (Driver and Passanger) listen to the radio/CD player?
How about if the back seats use headphones?
Thing is if my kid is watching a movie I don't want to have to listen to it while I drive.
Thanks,
Shredder
As a bonus, each headphone has two channels, and one person in back can listen to one source, while the other listens to something completely different from what's on the van's speakers. Ex.- driver / passenger listening to XM radio over speakers, one passenger watching DVD / listening to it with headphones (set to channel 1), and second passenger listening to FM station with headphones set to channel 2.