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Thanks.
Brian
“Auto sales hit by gas price shock: Higher insurance costs also hurting consumer demand”
Canada's auto industry continues to suffer through a dismal marked by declining sales and job losses in parts manufacturing and auto assembly. Total Canadian car sales fell by 6.7% in August, according to statistics released by carmakers, and dropped by 4.9% overall in 2004."
Wonder how Subaru sales are doing? Perhaps waiting another month or so will net better results when negotiating?
All Outback and Legacy models:
2.9% up to 24 months
3.8% 36 or 48 months
4.8% 60 months
Jay
Anything new on finance rates on the CDN 05 Forester.
JP
Did not ask about financing rates for 05 Forester, and did not see any mention of the Forester in the newspaper ad.
2.8% for up to 3yrs
3.8% for 4 or 5 yrs.
Cheers.
Cheers.
I WILL have my FXT by Christmas, just too many reno bills this month.
JP
JP, strategically, I think you'll benefit by waiting. Dec, Jan and Feb are historically slowest sales months of the year. Although Soob sales are up slightly from last year (1%), they are considerably lower than one would expect with the intro of new models this year. All said, I think you'll be able to negotiate a great deal by waiting. On the otherhand, I believe current financing rates are scheduled to end in November, but one never knows what they will do.
BTW, hearing conflicting reports, but local sales manager suggested that a dealer in TO has highest volume in Canada....but he could not remember which.
Also, unless you enjoy the "in-dealership negotiating experience", you may want to negotiate over the phone, directly with sales mngr. I did it this way and had dealers out bidding each other initially. When I agreed to a price, the winning dealer faxed the agreement of sale, I signed and sent back. Done.
Cheers and good luck. Let us know when you take the plunge.
JP
We just bought a 2005 Impreza RS Wagon for her and I got a Champagne (monotone) Outback XT 5MT.
Can't wait to drive it home next week!
-juice
Great deals on leftover 04s.....
JP
-juice
Any ideas about what to offer for this vehicle? It appears to be in good shape - though I won't know for sure until I have it checked out by BCAA.
I've heard depreciation on Subes is lower than other brands. Any feedback is welcome.
BTW - I was surprised to see several used STIs for sale. These are supposed to be in high demand - I wonder if a lot of STI purchasers are hot to buy, then find the race-car performance and ride profile is too much to live with on a daily basis.
- S1
Deadeye
Suggest also you test drive a Forester XT, as it is also an Impreza-based wagon, but with 90% of an STi under the hood and an even bigger moonroof than the WRX.
JP
I picked up my 04 wagon with sunroof and alarm for about 35k.
I think that is a decent asking price if it's clean. Overall, I think that wagon buyers are a slightly different demographic, and as such, tend to be a little less abused on average. As to the FXT, that is a great vehicle, and I'd love the engine, but after driving both on my favourite winding gravel road, the WRX is what I wanted. There are plenty of members on this board that disagree, so it might be worth a comparative test drive.
Nicholas
Owen
Must be a Republican conspiracy
Yeah, I looked the FXT over too. I do like the big sunroof. Also saw a new GT Legacy wagon, also with giant s/roof. Very nice.
Next door to Docksteader Subaru is the same company's Volvo dealership. The new V50 wagon is a very nice looking vehicle. More upscale than the WRX, and more expensive, but basically the same idea - 4wd wagon with a turbo engine. Larger displacement 5-cyl motor, but detuned in comparison the the WRX. Beautiful enterior. I'm still leaning toward the WRX, based on performance and price.
I was also looking at the V50 T5, but decided to go with OBXT instead, more performance, more room, and most likely much more reliable. The V50 offers more comfort and refinement.
Sly
-juice
site this month- on the yahoo site for a while-
lurking-trying to read ALL I can on a silver Forester 2000 Automatic L -Dynastar; Bought 2nd hand in Halifax-[70,000kms]previous owner from Montreal-having a
persistent CE lite- both O2 sensors replaced; and
both cat convertors. What is next?? Would dearly love to find out what was done to this car since
new? Any help would be appreciated
Not sure about Foresters, but I know the Outbacks were very finicky about having the fuel filler cap closed very tightly, else the CE light would come on. Happened to me early on my 2000 Outback until I found the soln in these forums. After cranking my gas cap a good 6 or 7 clicks after contact, the problem never resurfaced.
You may want to check out the Subaru - Care and Maintenance thread in the Owners Forum. Someone there may be able to provide you with other suggestions on the CE light if the gas cap doesn't do the trick.
Cheers.
Jay.
If you scan the ODB2 codes that provide hints as to where the source of the problem is, but you need a scanner.
-juice
In any case if it is a bad sensor a trouble code should be set in the ECU. Incidently it seems to me that your mechanic is just replacing stuff hoping to cure the problem, the cat converter should still be fine after only 70.000 kilometers, unless the car was run on a steady diet of leaded and I don't think that possible.
Cheers Pat.
In the USA, the OBXT retails for $30,795, at the current exchange rate of 1.2, it should cost about $37,000 here in Canada, but our price is $42,995!
So I got robbed by a good $5K!!!
Sly
My 2 cents,
Owen
Sly
-juice
Owen
Basically they gambled the wrong way on the exchange rates. Subaru played it too safe, overcompensated.
-juice
But it's not particularly surprising that since they didn't jack up prices when the CDN dollar was low, the manufacturers aren't cutting them now that the dollar is high. Two years ago that US$30,795 Outback would have cost CDN$49,000 in simple exchange rate terms and we'd have been happy to get it for $42,995.
I have an 05 OBXT with only 3500 Kms on it and my windshield cracked overnight last week, cracked from end to end. The service manager went over it with a fine-tooth comb and did find a tiny impact mark, just barely big enough to fit the tip of his pen into.
I told him that I thought it was amazing that such a small nick could cause the whole windshield to crack overnight, and that there was no way I could have seen such a small nick in time to get it fixed. I also commented that I live on a dirt road and that at that rate, I would end up needing a new windshield at every oil change.
He agreed with me, talk to the owner of the dealership, and told me he would replace the windshield at no cost.
Now that is what I call good service.
Sly
best I can see here in Nova Scotia is
$175 Canadian!!! bit too strong for my
blood. Mike
thanks for the gas cap and vacuum lines;
will use a propane bottle and hose to
check the vacuums for dried/cracked lines.
Maybe I will buy a roll of vacuum line and
replace all of them.! 4 years can dry out the
best of rubber lines.
But dealers charge $85 to diagnose ONE check-engine light in this region, so it pays for itself the 2nd time you use it.
-juice
(I'm not even a real Canadian)
JP
I guess Canadian Subie owners are all out playing in the snow!
Sly
http://globemegawheels.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/200502- - 03/WHDIFF03/cars/
Bob
It includes the following articles: 1 page on the Tribeca, 1.5 page on the new design direction, 1/2 page on the WRX Sti, 1/2 page on the Outback, 1/2 page on Legacy, 1/2 page on Forester XT, 1/2 page on Symmetrical AWD.
Also includes the following full-page ads: 1 for the Outback and 1 for the Legacy GT.
This must have cost a bundle, but it is great to see! Very well done Subaru Canada!
Sly
DaveM
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