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tidester, host
MAN, DOES THIS LOOK COOL!!! I Can't wait for the SUV version in Detroit! I think this looks cooler than the H2. I'll be first in line to buy the SUV version!
http://64.83.76.92/hummer/attachments/H3T-26.jpg
tidester, host
With 350-hp, source http://www.edmunds.com/future/2005/hummer/h3/100301493/spec- s.html?tid=edmunds.f.photos.leftsidenav..1.HUMMER*
WHY will it have more HP than the ESCALADE??
Weird, that's 5 more HP than the 5.7LHEMI V-8, the 05 Jeep Grand Cherokee will offer!!
I sure wish they'd introduce the H3 in New York...
Depending on what this looks like in reality, I am not as impressed with this as I am with the H3T, which is usually the case with concept to production vehicles. But, as anxious as I've been for this truck, this has me leaning toward a new 4Runner with a lift.
You shouldn't be frightened of the I5, the turbocharger should fill your need for power.
Steve, Host
Thanks for the confirmation. I would have bet everything I own, that it is legit.
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
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Hey, it's not my fault someone leaked it!
http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spy-shots-2004/H/hummer-h3.h- tml
http://www.h3source.com/focusgroup.htm
And where's the "turbo-charged" version GM has supposedly been testing? And on that subject, why a turbo, and not a supercharger? Tsk, tsk, GM...tsk, tsk.
Chrysler should have bought Hummer. They could use a good looking SUV!! Maybe they would have made something out of it under the hood too.
The traditional Hummer brand attributes have been near-unstoppable offroad performance. On-road performance is a secondary consideration. Now that the Hummer brand is becoming more commoditized, perhaps they could introduce road-tuned versions of the H2 and H3 (the H1 is beyond hope), kind of like the Red Line Saturns.
designers are probably sitting in their offices laughing at each and everyone of us. Why all the spy photos floating around their probably extremely satisfied. It's not often GM can keep a new car under wraps(just look at all the spy photos of the new corvette)but when they do their lucky. They will surprise everyone with a suv (or truck) that will blow ppl's minds i'm sure and I can't wait. Personaly I think it will be an suv built on the chevy ext/gmc xl platform with more of a toned down h2 look. Ne1 agree?
That's what we're basing our visual comments on, and our mechanical criticism is based on an article some guys posted about their experience with the H3, when they were invited to a test analysis of it. That's why we're taking such a strong stance with our opinions. Of course that may all change to some degree, when it actually comes out next year, but right now we're less than thrilled.
Go back and read most of the posts on page 6, and you'll find more evidence of what we're talking about.
Let's agree not to make this personal.
tidester, host
2)The forum removed the pic with request from GM
3)Some members with contacts confirmed that the pic was shown at the dealers convention
4)members of both HML and h2source were invited to different previews. The h2source posted that the vehicle they saw looked like that pic, I don't know if HML members actually accepted the invite.
THAT IS THE PRODUCTION H3! No secrets or spy covering; it's the real deal". My reply was to tell him that he has the wrong photo, that, that is not the "real deal" of what the h3 will look like and I wanted everyone else to consider what I said and if they agree or disagree, yes or no, and I don't appreciate HOST saying "lets not make this personal" when that's not what it's like or renco typing in spaced, numbered lines as if i'm stupid because obviously I know more about this subject that either of you two do Anybody agree with that?
When you tell someone pointedly he doesn't know what he's talking about and ask the group if anyone agrees with that then you're making it personal.
I suggest you adopt a less confrontational tone. Confrontation distracts from any point you're trying to make and can become disruptive.
tidester, host
H2's doors stick out, spy pics don't.
Spy pics has fender flares, H2 doesn't
The doors on the yellow pic look more like the spy pics than the H2.
The entire body looks more like the spy pics rather than the H2.
Etc.
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Well, I guess maybe someone like Daimler/Chrysler has done that recently! Let's see...there was the Prowler...no, no...the PT Cruiser...um, nope...the new Durango...no radical changes there from the R/T concept. Hmmm...
I know, I know! Ford! Well, actually their production versions are toned down a bit more than the others, and more than most of us wish, like the new Mustang. While the new F-150 is a great redesign, it's really sedate compared to the Tonka concept.
Well, gosh. Except for Ford, I really thought you were on to something there, but I guess not.
Does the front end RESEMBLE the H2? Of course! What did you expect it to look like? A Colorado? Is it EXACTLY like the H2? Nope. Most notably are the U-bolt tow hooks and the absence of the HUMMER name across the grille.
Have you checked out all of the spy shots? Notice how they look EXACTLY like this production photo? How about the H3T concept? As far as styling cues, the only main difference is the front bumper being extended to the fenders and the absence of the roof running lights. Of course the concept has a lot more flashy stuff on it. All concepts do (I have been going to auto shows all of my life, by the way).
As far as size, it looks about right to me. Also, I have no idea where you're getting the idea this is "expensive-looking." It certainly doesn't to me. The 4Runner looks more up-scale, in my opinion.