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another thing i would like to know, the 145 HP on the cobalt ls coupe, is that a lot for that kinda car, i know the cobalt is light, and is weighed 50 50
but like the civic is like 115 and the corolla is like 135, im just wondering, would u all stay with the LS and pay less or shoot for the SS and pay about 3 thousand more,do u think the LS is enough getty up or would u preper the SS rocket
im not sure right now, but i think an LS with the sports package and sound would be cool,
but on to one more thing if you got the LS coupe, would u get stick or automatic and why?
ive never really had an stick, but i heard they are real fun, and u get better acceleration
however i have been lookin at these mazda'a and each tim ei see them i think man, they are cool, but i look at the back and it just doesnt do it for me, but i heard they were real fun to drive. i understand the SS is fast in zero to 60 and all but by buying an ls version, and driving it like a normal humin being, r u gonna miss out on a lot?
The 2.2 L is slightly more powerful than its competition, especially the torque. The car has a respectable little over 16-second quarter mile time. An optional 2.4 L that powers the Malibu and HHR will be available after summer that puts out 170 hp. From what I understand, and actually heard last year, Chevrolet will have an optional, dealer installed, supercharger available for this engine.
Additionally, the Chevy Cobalt is ripping up the competition on the drag racing circuit. They have set many speed records including top speed runs, and a blistering quarter mile of 6.9 seconds in pro-fuel. The pro-fuel Cobalts use the same engine block from what I have read, but the Ecotech block is modified with different cylinder sleeves because of the extreme heat, horse power used at this level of competition.
I like a manual shift in a small car for slightly better mileage, performance, and having more control of the car. The 4-speed auto which has been around for many years, has been noted as bullet-proof, and is very smooth; best for city driving.
i think that is what i am going to do, i think i came to a conclusion the cobalt supercharge is gonna kinda be a waste, i like the sport cloth seats anyway.
but the only pickle i am in now, is the performance coupe comming whenever the hell it is supposed to come out. if i added a supercharge to 170 it prob make more than 255, but then u have to think, when is enough enough, it is my belief that a front wheel small car can become overwhellmed with too much, after all, the fwd has enough to do on its own. i dont want like understeer or nothin to be a constant pain in the [non-permissible content removed].
also, u wont get the cool SS thing on your car but F it, mabye with the ls it might shock people on the road, another dissapointment is the 16 inchers, which is plenty big enough but the 18 rims look sooo cool. tires and rims arent cheap,
i like the LS idea but here are some things i am thinking
will wheels handle the high horse
where the heck do u get a supercharger, do you have to buy it from a mag or site, and have a shop install it, or does the shop have it,
here is the big thing, my friend just got a mits lancer evo, yes it is sick, but im a chevy guy, i cant go forighn and buy an sti or anything, i want to build somen up to compete with it, he put in some stuff, his evo is 390HP, but im not sure of the weight, i dont want to race him, i just want to be able to shut him up when i talk about my car competin with his.
so the ls is prob the way to go, theres more than just a Supercharge, i can do, cant i mess with the air filters too?
just someone come out and make a decision for me, after all the chevy deal thing last till aug 1st? should i wait for the SS coupe or buy quickly on the rally yellow LS im peakin at the the dealer, o the decisions, ahhhhhhhhhh
just some1 make one for me
I can't tell you what brand supercharger fits on a Cobalt. You may want to go on a search engine and type superchargers to see what companies come up.
I don't believe the supercharger option from Chevy is going to be a hugh boost in horse power. As mentioned in a previous post, there is a Cobalt accessories catalog available from GM. It costs over $20, and contains just about every part you can think of-pistons, rings, different cam shafts, headers, etc.
A speed shop can install an aftermarket supercharger, but I doubt if there is much or a guarantee, if any.
Vortech Supercharger V-5
intercooler (eventually)
17" Arceo Suzuka Star Black Rims
Injen Cold intake
Carbon Fiber Hood
Erebuni Hood scoop
That's just me though, I'll probably have some more ideas to add, but not until later on. I'm going for the Red and Black look on my car. I think it'll look good.
If they had kept it just one more day I would have been able to start the lemon law process but I'm sure something else will go wrong soon enough. I just want to be rid of this car!!! Has anyone out there ever lemon lawed a car before? What was your experience like? I live in Florida. I know each state has their own laws. I don't want to have to get an atty and can't even find one in my area that specializes in the Lemon Law. Any suggestions?
I happy for all of you that got a good car and I hope that y'all continue to enjoy it. Hopefully some day soon I will have my toyota. :lemon:
1) can you still order a 2005 model? It will be hard to find this vehicle on a lot.
2) is the gm discount price the lowest price you can get? Has any one negotiated lower?
3) having made the mistake of getting a gm credti card, I can use $1000 credit toward purchase of a cobalt. the card I have actually has accumulated over $2000, however I am only allowed to use $1000 on the cobalt - is there any negotiating room here or is the $1000 written in stone?
thanks for any help/advice.
The maximum is adjusted from time to time, reflecting sales and the market's moods...
"The Owner's Manual for my 2005 Cavalier, with 2.2L (Vin Code F) Ecotec engine, says the oil capacity is 4.0 quarts, including filter. My previous five Cavaliers, with the cast iron engine, always had that same capacity.
Boy, did I get a surprise! When I did my first oil change, the one-gallon catch container I have always used before severely overflowed (luckily I had newspapers and a plastic sheet underneath the container).
I forgot to exactly measure what it took to refill my engine, but I would guess it must have been close to 5.0 quarts. How in the world can GM screw-up the Owner's Manual in this way (this is not a newly-introduced engine)? Has anyone here measured the exact refill quantity required for the 2.2L engine?"
The good news is that I have had my car out of the shop for three full days and nothing has gone wrong, yet. That is a record!!
I'll keep y'all posted
The "old" card allows yo to accumulate up to $500 per year for 7 years and use all the money on any eligible car. The "new" card allows you to accumulate any amount per year on the card but has limits of $1000-$3000 depending on the car you buy. The limit on the Cobalt is $1000. Most limits are in the 1000-2000 range.
I read your problem. Go find another dealer. Everything you've described make me think: Electrical, I'll bet a bad ground stemming from water getting inside your vehicle.
At least this time when the radio had the error message the dealership was open and I drove it straight over there and showed him the message. I don't think he believed me before that. It always happened in the evenings or weekends when the "service dept" was closed.
The other closest dealership is 25 miles away so not real convenient. But they do have a much better reputation. It might be worth the hassle. But after tomorrow when they don't fix my problem I can start the Lemon Law process.
If it wasn't such a pain in the butt, it would ALMOST be comical. But right now it hurts too much to laugh.
Thanks for your input. I'll keep y'all posted. :lemon:
and what was ur model of cobalt b4 upgrading
2. American dealer service is pretty good, based on my experience.
3. Every new car has some bugs, so the water leak is more likely something that got through, and not an indicator the whole car is bad.
I had one of the early Ford Focus models, a ZX3, and although it had some problems it wasn't bad, in hindsight, but I did panic and sell it early. I have another one today, and it is problem free so far - fewer initial defects than a post 2000 Civic and Scion I had in the interim.
Normally I would buy the Honda Civic, however there are tons of them everywhere so that's a turn off. If the Cobalt is also great, I would buy it. But I really need to know that it's a reliable car and that it doesn't have any major cons. Is the water leak to the inside of the car in defect in all of them? what other cons can you see to the car?
Also, when will the Cobalt 2006 be released, should I wait for it, have they said what exactly they have improved?
Thanks!!!
I hear employee pricing ends Aug 1 for good so you might want to get an 05 before that happens. The 06 won't see much if any change.
Magazines have frequently put it in the top 3 in overall quality, driving experience. The Cobalt SS also edged out the Neon version in a close comparison.
Loren
You can always say, "ya but company X has this coming next year or the year after... " but we are talking about now. Fact is, the Cobalt is a very competitive entry with more power and available power than most of the competition.
The Audi A4 1.8T lost the most value of the 6 listed in the evaluation.
The PT Cruiser is my crude vehicle with a truck like ride and disappointing mileage. You had to have got a great deal on that one because not too many people are buying it after the initial rush.
Who doesn't have new cars?
Is there a TSB for it?
Anyone here know what i am talking about?
Loren
The CTS is an excellent car in it's catagory. Any car over $30,000 is big money and the CTS fits in well with the over-priced Lexus and BMW's, etc.
Of the over 10 article/tests I have read on the Cobalt, only one writer that I recall mentioned the word cheap. What's cheap about it? It's excellent inside and out. Plastic is plastic and is way over-rated.
I have seen Kelly Blue Books prices on comparable vehicles 10-years-later and they are virtually the same including my over-10-year S10 pick-up. Pretty rusty, but is a great runner. Here in Illinois it's somewhat uncommon to see a 1980's Japanese car, where there are many Buicks and Chevrolets around.
I have worked for 6 auto dealers-2-Nissan, 1-Toyota, 1-Mazda, and 2-Chevy dealers, and personally I was not impressed with the Japanese cars. The American cars are so much more solid, though they lack the fit and finish at that time back in the late 1980's. Reliability is really no different in most automobiles. If you don't maintain, they don't last. I know of a lot more people who have had a problem with their import car than a U.S. car, with maybe the exception of Chrysler. Toyota's are mostly known for reliability because of clever marketing strategy started back in the 1980's. Ford had to drop the quality thing because it actually turned out they were not. It's all in marketing, and sometimes deception or perception that gives a car its label.
That is pretty descent mileage out of the Cruiser. Every evaluation I have heard or read about this vehicle gave it low marks in the mileage, some in the low 20's mpg on the highway. I wonder how the HHR will do against it? I was real skeptical about the HHR when I first saw it. It is a PT look-a-like in my opinion, and with the PT sales lower (though still around 100,000), how does Chevy hope to get it's 100,000 sales, I doubt it. Its supposed to be a heritage-high-roof vehicle, but I don't know if it resembles the 1940's Suburban that much. It has some innovative features with nice option packages, but then again it's another truck. The speculated 30 mpg highway sounds pretty good if it can do it.
However, pity the poor sucker who pays list for an American car - you need to get hefty rebates and discounts to make an American car competitive.
The truth is, American cars are cheaper than imports (after rebates and discounts) but the American manufacturers don't want to admit their cars are perceived as being worth less, and the Japanese don't want to look like their cars are premium priced.
Such a difference from the '60's when Japanese cars were cheap and American cars were expensive.
Resale is a distorted number these days but people still always refer to it.
It's too bad that an all-new design looks so much like every relatively inexpensive coupe from almost every brand offering coupes built during the last decade.
There is nothing original about the Cobalt coupe's design and there seems to be no compelling reason to buy one on the basis of style. Don't all coupes need style to compensate for their lack of practicality?
Just my observation after seeing a couple of Cobalt coupes yesterday--I almost didn't notice them at all.