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An insider on another message board I read says that the STS and DTS will probably be replaced by one car on the RWD Sigma platform by the end of the decade. There may be one version called the DTS and a 5 inch longer version called the DTS-L. The current STS is not selling well, probably because it's not much larger than the CTS.
I like the seat elevated, relatively close to the steering wheel and with a cushiony lumbar support. In warm weather, I'm always running the seat cooler.
After about an hour on the road, sitting in a fixed position, I felt a desire to adjust my back support. I turned on the massager, and liked the refreshing effect. It runs for ten minutes at a time, and I kept turning it on again until I reached my destination.
The rumor I read on the other message board - from a very reliable insider whom I have followed for about 6 years - said that the RWD DTS may be 198 inches long and the DTS-L may be 203 inches long, so these probably won't be small cars. But these cars are at least 3 or 4 years away.
I frankly think that Cadillac is heading in the wrong direction but perhaps the old Deville buyers are dying off and the STS is trying to compete with a full size Lexus which is smaller than the present DTS. Tacking a new rear trunk lid, front grille, and dash on the Deville and calling it a DTS is not very smart. Everybody knows that the DTS is simply a cosmetic update of the 2000 Deville.
Cadillac is going in the wrong direction as far as I'm concerned but most people disagree with me. I'd get a Certified used Lincoln though because the warranty is better on the Certified one than a new one -same as Cadillac.
I would take a hard look at the Edwards forums for the current Avalon - lots of unhappy owners with transmission hesitation. Do a search. Same with the 300 series Lexus. Some claim they have no problems. But even CR called it a problematic car with only average build quality. According to JD Edwards, Toyota has a lower consumer satisfaction rating then GM when dealing with customer complaints.
or tell you that it is either "normal" or "can't duplicate the problem". I'll most likely get a Certified 2007 or 2008 DTS (Luxury II package) in October, 2008 when my '03 Deville warranty runs out. If Cadillac downsizes the DTS I'll keep the '07/08 until the wheels fall off. What I want to see is something that looks like the Sixteen only with an 8.
Cadillac DTS vs. Chrysler 300/300C
Bob
I would have liked a non-metallic white paint choice, like the old Cotillion White - ended up with Crimson Pearl with ebony inside - I like it - you don't see too many around here in that color.
It has happened exactly twice in three months - and it appears to come from the rear of the car - I was guessing maybe the compressor for the leveling suspension or something of that sort.
Definitely not a pulsing noise to my ears, it is a hard
metallic tap - have not been for service yet, as I only have 3,000 miles - never thought to mention it - perhaps I will when I got for service to see what they tell me.
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Cadillac DTS: Problems & Solutions
Will there be a DTS V-series, so that there will be a big daddy on the scene?
Abel
Engine/trans: Stunning! Excellent power and gearing for all situations.
MPG: 25 at a steady 80 mph, 27+ if you drive at 65 or less, all using 89 octane. City, maybe 16 or 17. All hand checked but the electronic dash numbers were very close.
Ride: Overall very nice, good seats, met our expectations. Some body roll on the high speed interstate exit ramps that curve.
Brakes: The weak point. Lots of brake noise and some fade in the NC mountains as you come down the steep interstate hills at speed. (Car had 10k miles on it overall.)
Fit and Finish: First class.
Other: The trunk is a cave and the AC works well even on 98 degree afternoons. Good headlights but overall visibility from the driver's seat can sometimes be a problem (as is typical with many new models).
OnStar: OnStar was wonderful getting us out of Manhattan to New Jersey and in the Williamsburg/Jamestown area. Better than a NAV screen.
Parking: This car needs a wide area to turn and park and the doors are super wide when fully opened, making them hard to reach and pull closed. (Upper end models have an auto-closer feature.)
Summary: The car is little large for us as a daily driver but for travel, it's wonderful. The dash info center rivals an airplane on information provided to the driver. Great car......
We bought an 06 a couple of months ago. Taking to Denver this coming week. Will watch brakes in mountains
Lots of parallel parking and the DTS steering geometry makes this somewhat difficult. This rental had a backup sensor and it is both helpful and necessary. The hotel also had tight parking spaces and, as before, the wide doors and the large turning circle can be a problem to manage.
City gas mileage was 16 mpg.
As before, OnStar makes a nav screen obsolete. We easily found local eateries and businesses in Westwood and Santa Monica with the "turn by turn" recorded directions.
All in all, another good rental experience and a great ride from GM. If you travel in unfamiliar places, OnStar alone is enough to make you think about a GM product.
I purchased a DTS Performance on 3 Jul 06. I currently have 1600 or so miles. I just experienced the rapping noise. I read you postings prior to the noise in my car and boy was I glad. If not, it would have been spooky. Nobody around and sounded like someone knocking on the rear of the car. Thanks for the heads up.
It is exactly as geezer408 described. It happened two days in a row and on the second day I watched the temperature gauge climb and could predict when the noise would occur.
If anyone has a fix – let me know.
Other problems and solutions.
1. PING NOISE ON ACCELERATION: Sounds almost like engine ping. Try premium gas and did not help. Took to dealer two times – total of 4 days. They spent a lot of time and finally found the cause. SOLUTION: Shifter cable fell back into wrong area causing the noise. Zip strapped cable into correct position. OK now.
2. CLOCK: Cannot read from driver seat and too shinny and too much sun glare. SOLUTION: None that I know of yet.
3. NAV RADIO: When radio is off (at night) there is a glow that can be very annoying while driving. Poor design – it should go off when you turn it off. SOLUTION: 1-turn radio on. 2-through the menu turn the display off. 3-from the steering wheel press the mute button. Works great this way.
Overall it is a great car and I am happy with my purchase.
If you hear or know anything of the clock please let me know. I would be willing to purchase an aftermarket clock if one were available and it wouldn’t effect the warrenty.
The car was then towed to the nearest dealer, where it has been for the past 10 days. They...and apparently lots of Cadillc zone folks....cannot figure out what's wrong.
I have been putting lots of miles on my Enterprise DTS loaner car, but I want my car back! I'm more than halfway to the 15 business day threshold for the Massachusetts Lemon Law to kick in, so I'm patiently waiting to see what the dealer has to say. Anyone experienced anything like this?
The interesting thing about this is the lack of communication from the dealer, Frost Motors of Newton, MA. The only reason the car is there is because that's the closest dealer to the breakdown.
On 3 different days last week, the service dept. did not call me, after saying they would. That's when I called Cadillac customer service, and they've been calling the dealer daily. It was Cadillac, not the dealer, that called me yesterday to tell me about the new computer.
At this point, I'm just going to let this take it's course...until I hit the 15 business days of being out of service. After that, it'll be interesting to see what happens.
The service department will probably not call you unless they have good news. Replacing the computer is the next step, and while it may solve the problem, it also may not. I think that it is a bit early in the game to start talking about a Lemon Law. You need to let the service department have as much time as they need to fix it. On the other hand, as they run out of ideas to fix the car, Cadillac may have to replace the whole car or you may want your money back so that you can buy brand X instead.
At least you do have a rental to use while they work on the problem. I would call them to see what the status is, once a day is often enough. When my 2002 Seville had a solenoid fail in the transmission, my dealer did not give me a rental. Instead they gave me a ride home and then picked me up when the car was finished the next day. Since the car was drivable with the failed part, repairs could be scheduled at my convenence. However, they did goof putting the transmission back together, and I had to take it back. Then they needed more than a day to fix it and I did get a rental.
Lets hope this is the last time you will have any major problems with your DTS. Thanks again for sharing this with us and hope we were of some help to you.
There is a button on the gear shifter that takes the Town Car out of overdrive and into third which makes the first shift very easy, can also use the shifter to put the car in second. I have been told by several people that the Lincoln transmissions and cruise controls are more effective than Cadillac. My direct experience as an owner of both cars bears that out. I owned a 98 Deville before the 2004 and the same performance you describe applies. The Cadillac has
some advantages over the Lincoln such as smoother power delivery and of course Onstar to name a few. The one feature of the Lincoln I like most over the Cadillac is a much more quiet ride. Both great cars, I understand Lincoln will phase out towncar after the 2007 model which I think is a mistake if they do.