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Total of over 65,000 miles on the two cars.
I have had a few minor issues. (I am very very picky) They have all been fixed correctly and promptly by my dealer while driving a nice loaner.
All in all, I am very happy with my Cadillac. I will be buying another in a couple of years.
Texas Jim
The basic problem with trying to make a FWD sedan into a sport sedan is that the weight on the front wheels makes handling less than perfect (whatever that may mean). The RWD Cadillac sedans (STS and CTS) are sport sedans and are a better choice than the DTS for a sport sedan.
Anyhoo...........I finally took the plunge and traded my 03 Deville base that
had 53k miles and was for the most part troublefree with only 1 visit
to the service dept. for a water pump seal and a emission programming
recall. Aside from several $19.95 oil changes no other services were
required in the almost 5 years I had the car....................
While wintering in Daytona the local Caddy dealer had several used
o7 DTS models for a reasonable $27k so I figured I would take a look!
Found a nice loaded out Lux 3 pkg in Diamond white that was a GM PEP
unit and not a rental with 2,700 miles.
I wanted a new 08 but even with my GM employee deal the MSRP of
almost $50k on a lux3 and my final price of around $38k the 07 was
quite the deal !!!!!!!!!!!
I only got $15k trade allowance on my 53k mile 03 but it did need
brakes and tires as the original Michelins were pretty thin............
I hope this new one will serve me as well as my past Caddies and
I do run them hard and put them away wet at times ! :shades:
Seems like, no matter how big or small the exterior of a car, the driver gets a 20 by 40 inch box in which to live.
Bring back the Hummer 1. (well maybe not, but they were roomy).
And the Town Car isn't as quick or powerful...part of the price you pay for better economy on these dated engine designs.
anyone taken the wheel apart to repair an element problem?
and as you may know the T.C. is being discontinued after the 2008 model year. I still have close to three years of warranty on my DTS but am unsure that my replacement car will be another GM product. I have never owned an import before but my next cars may be a Lexus and a Mercedes. Hopefully the American auto industry will address the issues that concern us all and address them in future models.
I have purchased over 20 GM vehicles in my life and I AM DONE WITH GM. One thing is for sure, many people will by GM and when there are problems they can expect to receive no assistance. The lemon law in this state covers me for two years/24K miles, and there may be relief one day. Until then I will tell everyone about GM's customer assistance program, oh sorry I mean LACK OF A CUSTOMER SERVICE PROGRAM. Good luck to all DTS/GM vehicle owners - no wonder GM is experiencing financial difficulties. I'm ALL AMERICAN and my next vehicle will be FOREIGN - with no GM affiliation.
Oh, and relating to the vibrations, if it is braking vibrations after a tire replacement or rotation, a lot of service places don't seem to grasp the proper way to retighten the lugs when reinstalling the wheels after service. This can warp the front rotors and cause pulsating, we had it on two of our older Caddies, happened both times after tire rotations, once at a tire place and once at the dealership.
Service depts seem to have a lot of problems taking tires/wheels seriously. I've heard of the rotor warping issues. Have gotten my car back after tire rotation and found tire pressures totally askew with one or more grossly over inflated, and have always found the lug nuts over torqued.
We now have a 2008 DTS and that's the first thing I checked. There was still no star washer under the terminal, but the threads in the floor were clean and there was a bare spot (no paint) under the terminal.
This may not be related to your problem but it's worth checking it out. Sometimes the simplest solution is the best one.
oh i did go to different dealer , but next oil change check that stick next morning
figure if they short enough customers on oil the profit line will raise , shame is it not GM fault it quality of dealer , it a shame
My RWD northstar V8 has used less than a quart in the last 10000 miles since the first oil change. I am now down to 27% on the oil monitor and will have it changed after 24000 miles. It requires synthetic oil meeting GM's 4718 standard (mobil 1 or equivalant).
Took a test drive --- very nice ride.
I'm not happy about downsizing the DTS but the basic design dates from 2000 and I'd like to see something new that looks more like the Sixteen. As things stand now I'll trade my 2003 Deville for a certified 09 DTS in the spring of 2010.
Not much different from my 03 Deville but the restyle of the nose
and tail along with the new dash look pretty good.
Didn't worry about taking a big hit on the lousy resale value on this
one because I didn't buy it new. As a GM employee/retiree/family
member I picked this one up as a GM PEP unit with 2,900 miles
for $29k and its a lux 3 pkg so its got all the goodies.
Heck...the local late model used car superstore in Syracuse NY has
ex-rental 08 lux-1 pkg CTS for $21k !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
A CPS aka crank position sensor.
Another 3rd world produced part with a high failure rate!
Crankshaft Position Sensors.
On warmer days I have notice a quick jerk almost like an engine stumble (but not the engine) after I have driven the car awhile.
Here are some of the other problems that are either waiting to be fixed or have been fixed.
1- when I first start moving I hear a banging some where in the front end. After a lot of testing the dealer found the rack and pinion assembly is bad and is being replaced next week
2- have to be about 2 feet from the car for either remote to work. Tried replacing the battery but still have the problem. Scheduled to be worked on next week.
3- drives seat heater quit working - scheduled for next week
4- top 5 wires on rear window didn't work - replace rear window
5- foam padding in passenger door panel defective - replaced panel
6- drivers seat plastic is broken on the outside edge and a piece that goes over the seat belt is missing - scheduled for next week
7- clear coat defective on front around and between the head lights and part of right fender - repainted
8- rain sensor wipers didn't work - part is missing and were replaced
9- low coolant warning light and little or no heat- cross over pipe was leaking, replaced gaskets
10- tire monitor warning on dash, front left tire does not read at times- scheduled next week
11- service bulletin on steering part about grease being packed on one end causing rattle - part was replaced but didn't fix banging noise
12- sun roof rattled - readjusted rails
The GPS system is not that good. My $150 Tom Tom is far better that the GM unit. The GM GPS system is not very accurate and wants to keep routing me to major highways when there a good alternate routes. One time when I was testing it I have no idea where I would have ended up. I knew where I was going and it wanted me to turn places that would have take me to who knows where. I probably will follow the directions some day just to see. The voice commands for the radio are very limited.
I keep wondering what will happen next. I don't believe this is a dependable car. Really considering getting rid of it.
My old car was a 97 Deville that started leaking oil at the half seal. Other than that it had a few minor problems but overall was a good vehicle.
While down at my Daytona house for a few weeks I had a dead battery
one morning. A call to the GM 800 number had a tech from a local
Caddy dealer phone me with a few questions and arrive shortly afterwards
with a new battery and had it installed in minutes !
My elderly neighbors were amazed that the battery was under the back seat....................
He stated he would never buy another GM car again...
I know lemko has a cream puff, but if you want to know why the Big 3 are going down, multiple this guy in the article by hundreds of thousands, and you might see why Lexus may become the luxury car of choice...
We just don't seem to cut it anymore...and, for all the satisfied lemkos out there, there are not enough to compensate for the disgruntled buyers who are abandoning Cadillac FOREVER...
Why can't they see that???
Our car is a 2006 Cadillac DTS Lux III purchased new, now 3 yrs old. We took the car in April 2009 for a windshield washer recall. We have always had the car serviced at the dealer (we no longer have a dealer in Grass Valley, CA). When the car was ready after the windshield recall fix, they told us they did and update on the Engine Control Module (recall 07132 off the repair order). It may be a Service Bulletin rather than a recall. I found document ID # 1993220 (# 07132), it also covers some 2006 Buick Lucerne, Chev Cobalt, Saturn ION, Buick Rainier, Chev TrailBlazer and GMC Envoy. We did not receive any notification about the ECM update, but are sure glad to have it fixed.
The acceleration problem is gone, thank god. It was very frustrating and took a lot of extra braking (also dangerous). This acceleration always happened with foot on the brake just as we turn into our driveway. A couple of years ago, I went to the dealer and drove another new 2006 and 2007, they both had the acceleration problem. We also have the GPS updated DVD and have a clock we can read on the GPS display. We haven't been on a trip to see how the maps are working.
WPSR
You mentioned that you have a clock on your GPS system. My car is a 2006 (DTS) and I also have the latest DVD (I think) and I still do not have a clock on the display.
How did you get the clock to appear? What version of the DVD do you have? Did the dealer have to do anything to get the clock to display?
Thank you in advance. You answers will be most appreciated.