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Volkswagen Jetta 2006+

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  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,676
    The 9.1 0-60 is the VW claim. I don’t think they did their own tests.

    Usually magazines list their testing procedures. For automatics they usually apply the brake AND press down on the gas at the same time; then release the brake. This way they get “better” acceleration times than the manufacturers claimed times.

    Not a road burner either way…
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Posts: 690
    ...that being said, anyone who even considers purchasing any car so new in its production cycle is rolling the dice, big time. I usually purchase cars near the end of their production cycle - after most of the bugs have been fixed.

    I know some people who want to be the first on the block to own the new this-and-that, but is it really worth plunking down $20K+ of hard-earned money to become a beta-tester for the automobile industry?

    If anyone has answered yes to this question, then complaining when something goes wrong with a newly-purchased early production automobile will only serve as an object lesson on shooting yourself in the foot.
  • Dear Interested VW lovers who want to know about the new Jetta,

    I just leased a 2005.5 Jetta Package 2 and I LOVE IT. I have owned a 1998 Passat, 2002 Passat, 2003 Jetta, 2004 Jetta, and now I am leasing the new Jetta. Best Volkswagen I have had. Better handling, powerful base engine, and I personally love the look of it as opposed to other VW people who say, "eww Carolla". It puts any Carolla to shame with the features it has and new size. The engine is MUCH MUCH faster then the 2.0 liter and feels almost close to the 1.8 T. Great on gas and sounds great. All in all I love the car! If your unsure of what the new Jetta could be like just drive it and then you'll know. Can't wait for the 2.0T to come out should be pretty fast and then a possible 3.6 liter VR6 engine, we will wait and see.

    -Max
  • mazda6smazda6s Posts: 1,901
    I was looking at the Jetta again today and the front end looks a little "busy" to me. Sorta looks like it was designed by a commitee - one guy from Japan, one guy from Germany, and two guys from the US (one of whom was drunk and the other had been smoking pot). All joking aside, I liked the front end look of the last Jetta better. And what's up with that big chrome piece in the middle? I like the styling of the rest of the car though.
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,981
    And what's up with that big chrome piece in the middle?

    That is known as corporate identity. You better get used to it.
  • I am a current Jetta owner (03) and its my second since the redesign (00). I really dislike the new Jetta. I don't think it looks like a Honda, but it does look like a Corolla which is worse (IMHO). The current Jetta is very European and looks more like a Mercedes than anything from Japan. This is a huge step backwards and this will certainly be my last Jetta. :-(
  • I'm sorry that you don't like the new redesign. I think the car is overall quite attractive. However I agree with you when you say the new Jetta's taillights are similar to those of the Corolla. I think the car is a huge improvement over the previous Jetta. The previous Jetta looks a like a very boring car, more boring than any of the other Japanese compacts. The new Jetta looks a lot bigger, almost midsize. Nice job on the redesign, Volkswagen! If only they could reduce the prices slightly, the Japanese cars offer similar, if not better equipment and reliability for a cheaper price.
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Forget equipment and reliability, the Japanese offer significantly more engine and fuel efficiency at the price too.

    Revisted the Jetta at the NYC auto show today- the leatherette is trash, it was already showing age creases from the show wear. Notably, the cloth of the Value Edition was fine and attractive. Doesnt the public deserve better than vinyl when paying 24K for a car? Does VW think its fooling anyone? (For some reason, the leatherette on BMWs is much better...)

    ~alpha
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    "the Japanese cars offer similar, if not better equipment and reliability for a cheaper price"

    perhaps you should re-visit the available features on the new jetta.
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    thanks for the info on how easily the leatherette wears and ages. i think it looks nice brand new but i did have concerns on how soon it would show wear. i guess it's real leather or look else where for me.

    when are you going to take the new jetta out for a spin?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    Ok, so whats on a Jetta Pkg 2 that cant be had on an Acura TSX or loaded Camry XLE V6 (besides 50 to 60 horsepower)?

    ~alpha
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Posts: 690
    The extra 50 or 60 horsepower does one no good while sitting in a traffic jam or driving in wall-to-wall traffic.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,676
    True...but...more is alway better :)
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    Ordered my wife's Jetta Value Edition today.

    The dealer indicated it should be here in May and that the first VEs are supposed to arrive within a couple weeks here in the north. I believe he indicated the first batch are at a port in the US...forgot exactly where, somewhere on the gulf coast I think.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,448
    "True...but...more is alway better :) "

    Is 2,000 hp better than 200? I think the whole focus on hp numbers is getting to be ridiculous. People actually just look at the hp number and will not even consider a car based on that one item. HP is directly related to rpm, and if you are not driving at those high rpms you are not getting that hp. Torque is far more important.

    I actually prefer the much less powerfull TDI to the VR-6 or the 2.0t or the new 2.5.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,676
    Funny…I was just reading an interview with the Bugatti CEO stating that it would have somewhere close to 1100hp…I was thinking “that’s much better than 750”.

    You’re actually singing my tune. I’m a big advocate of the 2.0T over similar 4 cylinders such as the TSX because of the HUGE (relatively) amount of torque down low.

    I think the TDI with DSG would be an excellent combination for general use. I think in the Jetta they are only using the 1.9L TDI whereas the new Passat will get a 2.0L TDI that produced 170hp and 260 ft/lb of torque (0-60 8.5 sec and 39mpg).

    The 2.0T is my sweet spot…
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    TSX lacks the following:

    6 speed DSG transmission
    an engine (2.0T) better suited to an auto tranny
    rain sensor wiper control
    air conditioned compartments
    trip computer - you need the navi with the TSX
    12-way power seats with memory for driver
    power lumbar support
    heated windshield washers
    self centered steering
    real wood applications
    rear window shade

    subjectively i would say the jetta handles as well as the TSX but offers a better ride. it feels great over broken payment.

    i agree with you that you need more than the 2.5l for this trim level. you could never get the old GLX model jetta with the base engine (2.0l).

    since you didn't respond to my last query does this mean you're not going to test drive the new jetta?
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    It means that I hope to tomorrow, if time permits.

    ~alpha
  • alpha01alpha01 Posts: 4,747
    The 2.0T is not yet out. Right now, its a 150 hp engine whose suitability to an automatic is arguably better or worse than the TSX. Honestly, the ONLY noteworthy feature, IMO, of those above are the rain sensing winshield wipers. Its not as if the TSX has manual seats, for Pete's sake, its just an 8 way vs. a 12 way adjustment. What the TSX offers that the Jetta Pkg 2 doesnt includes 17 inch vs. 16 inch wheels, and standard Xenon HID headlamps, for example, both features Id rather have than an air conditioned owners manual. To each their own...

    ~alpha
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    The GLI is here in 6 weeks according to this:

    http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102071

    M
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Posts: 690
    That was spot on!

    As the saying goes: "Horsepower sells engines, but torque wins races"...
  • fish8fish8 Posts: 2,282
    If the Leatherette in the New jetta's is anything like the Leatherette in the '04.5 Passat's then you should have no problems with its durability. The passat's leatherette looks and feels (but lacks the smell) like real leather. After 11,500 miles, no wear can be detected.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,448
    Generally letherette wears better than leather. It does lack the smell though. I would prefer it to leather because of the durability, lower cost, lower maintenance and easier cleanup. It is far superior to the vinyl from the '70's.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,676
    I always thought it was the other way around…for the most part.

    High horse power would win races because you’re running in the upper rpm band so you don’t need the low end torque (Honda S2000)

    The high end torque would sell more because it gives a better feel, but if your engine runs out of steam over 4000rpm you maybe able to spin your tires at the lights, or tow a boat, but can’t make a quarter mile run (diesel)

    I think high hp figures are just for advertising and may fool some people who would never use the power anyway. Plus hp figures aren’t always accurate or comparable. If you drive a BMW 330 225hp (or even 325 184hp) and compare it to a 240hp Accord, the BMW’s feel much more powerful.

    Either way, engine characteristics and driving style probably make a bigger difference…if you NEVER drag race or go WOT, a diesel with HUGE low end torque may give you the impression that you’ve got a really powerful engine (which I guess you probably do)
  • 600kgolfgt600kgolfgt Posts: 690
    Let me put it another way:

    Horsepower gets you there, torque keeps you there...
  • jeffyscottjeffyscott Posts: 3,855
    "It is far superior to the vinyl from the '70's."

    Probably true, yet it is still far inferior to cloth, IMO.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,676
    heh...well put...
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    "air conditioned owners manual"

    you never know when an air conditioned owner's manual will come in handy. i hear what you're saying.

    however, the DSG will be a noteworthy feature. i know, it's not out yet.
  • venus537venus537 Posts: 1,443
    "If you drive a BMW 330 225hp (or even 325 184hp) and compare it to a 240hp Accord, the BMW’s feel much more powerful"

    BMW must do wonders with that peak 175 ft/lb of torque for the 2.5l. never mind that honda's 3.0l is producing more than that at virtually every RPM.

    since the accord's 3.0l has 90% of it's peak torque as low as 2000 RPM and at the same time reaches peak torque at 5000 RPM i don't see how the BMW's 225hp 3.0l would feel so much faster. perhaps it's the gearing. there sure isn't much difference in measurable terms whether it be 0-30, 0-60, 5-60, 30-50, 50-70 or the 1/4 mile.
  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,676
    felt like it to me...
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