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HOST has mechanical question
Mr_Shiftright
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Some advice from the M&R Senate, please.
One of my cars is a Benz diesel. Great car but parts replacements are very expensive.
I seem to have a noisy CV joint in the rear swing axles somewhere. I get a clicking and sometimes a binding noise when I back up, for a few seconds--then the CV joint must load up and it's gone.
No noise forward, no noise on the road---EXCEPT---I have heard the characteristic raprapraprap noise when making a hard, sweeping, high speed LEFT turn. This noise co-incides perfectly with wheel rotation and speed.
Question: Since there are two axles and four joints, each costing HUNDREDS of dollars a pop, I want to GUESS which one is bad.
My conclusion is that it is the right side swing axle, and I'd like to get a good one from a wrecker and save money that way.
Do you all think this is a good guess?
NOTE: Can't duplicate noise on a lift because wheels are hanging. Tough to isolate noise just by walking alongside the car when it's backing up. Noise travels under there, can't be certain.
I guess I could back over a friend but thus far no volunteers.
One of my cars is a Benz diesel. Great car but parts replacements are very expensive.
I seem to have a noisy CV joint in the rear swing axles somewhere. I get a clicking and sometimes a binding noise when I back up, for a few seconds--then the CV joint must load up and it's gone.
No noise forward, no noise on the road---EXCEPT---I have heard the characteristic raprapraprap noise when making a hard, sweeping, high speed LEFT turn. This noise co-incides perfectly with wheel rotation and speed.
Question: Since there are two axles and four joints, each costing HUNDREDS of dollars a pop, I want to GUESS which one is bad.
My conclusion is that it is the right side swing axle, and I'd like to get a good one from a wrecker and save money that way.
Do you all think this is a good guess?
NOTE: Can't duplicate noise on a lift because wheels are hanging. Tough to isolate noise just by walking alongside the car when it's backing up. Noise travels under there, can't be certain.
I guess I could back over a friend but thus far no volunteers.
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If I'm not mistaken, they have the hub style wheel bearing?
Just a thought.
Seems like a bearing would only growl in a monotone, no??
Does that have a limited slip differential by chance and have you checked the diff fluid if it does?
I think you are probably correct, but if it has a limited slip differential, I have seen them do some strange things when the additive has given up.
I know, not much help.
duct-tape the arm so the needle rests lightly on the half-shaft or housing (you don't want this rotating underneath the needle) on the side you suspect. you are going to have to put some bubble wrap or thin foam under the arm so the needle isn't squashed flat against the metalwork and won't have any flex left.
rig an extention cable to go into a boombox line input jack, and set it to record. put headphones on so you can monitor it, and back up.
it's a remoted mechanics stethoscope, and that should either transmit the noise clean as a bell, or not. if not, tape it to the other side.
I've tried to isolate noise with a microphone before, but road noise and air movement drowned it out. it REALLY gets drowned out with my homebrew 45 khz ultrasonic listening rig. this ought to work. the ceramic phono pickup should be a half to 3/4 volt output, so it's line input level.
So you guys don't think that the "loading" of the CV joint is a clue? That is, a rear CV is more likely to knock if the car's weight is thrust to that side?
there is a chance that there's binding on the links someplace, too, and moving a pickup around there could isolate the assembly.
I can get an axle from the wreckers for $100 but they are rather hard to bench-test unfortunately, unless they are totally wiped out.
Big monster joints, seem more suitable for a panzer tank. You could use them in the weight room at the gym. Why they put them into service with a less than 100 HP diesel engine I don't know, unless they planned for interplanetary travel distances.