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"2005 Acura TL 6-Speed Navigation HPT - Automatic
Price: $35670 MSRP: $35670
Model Number:UA6565KW /gx
Exterior Color: Anthracite Metallic
Interior Color: Quartz"
Also, I think it is a $200 option...
The six-speed is a manual transmission.. My guess is the dealer description is a typo.
Same price... manual or automatic..
habitat has the HPT package.. You can do a search for his posts in the Acura TL forum.
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In the end, they did not lower the price any bit and I was glad that I did not buy from them. A dreadful, horrible experience and certainly not worth your time to visit the dealer.
So who did you end up going to? That raises a good point about dealerships ramping up fees after negotiating a good deal over the phone/internet. Just browsing the forums, I've seen document fees ranging from $0-300!
For those who have purchased new TL's, what fees were you assessed? I.e. how much above the cost plus TTL?
$100 doc fee in Cleveland, Ohio (Motorcars) in May 2004.
$20 for license.
I've heard them as high as $400.
Anyone buy the autoguard package for the paint and interior?
That's practically a rip-off! Nothing more than wax and leather conditioner that you can buy from WalMart for $10 and apply it yourself on a beautiful Saturday morning! :-)
1. $99
2. $194, which includes "free" state inspections (@ $29/year) for life of the car. I bought from this dealer.
Lexus dealer charged $230 for evil wife's RX. Chrysler dealer had NO doc fee for my 300M.
IMHO, doc fees are purely added profit. Of course, profit is not a four letter word, but be aware...
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I visited both the Mission Viejo and Tustin Acura dealerships today looking for a non nav '05 TL. In addition to the car I also wanted to get the mud guards, trunk tray, and wheel locks + the wood select knob.
I targeted $31K + TTL for all the above, but it was a NO GO. How much do you think I could get it for and which dealerships do you recommend I visit? Thanks.
Cheers,
Gureel
The parts department says they retail for $1200...including installation and exchange of the wheels on my current TL. I have no TL yet. I just wanted to know what the retail was from the dealer. I would like to work the wheels into my negociations but it's difficult w/o knowing their cost.
Does anyone know or have a guess? Thanks
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"Edmunds TMV doesn't list dealer-installed accessories, and the RL doesn't offer any factory "options"."
Same with the TL. I couldn't find any price much less the cost for the factory chrome wheels ...which are dealer installed. I thought someone might have some inside info.
I guess I'll go with 1violinist and subtract 20-25% from the $1200.
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Call a different dealer's parts department.. Tell them you have the car already.. thinking about getting chrome wheels... ask them for a price.. At least that way, you'll know what a brand new wheel will cost.
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This one was in the Dallas area. Funny, though, because I also discussed prices with the Austin dealerships (2 of them) and received very average bids ($33,800-$34,700).
Btmoon, I'm really surprised they didn't give you a better deal. I was getting virtually attacked over the weekend to close with several dealerships (end of the month syndrome).
During my adventure I visited 2 dealers (Concord who wanted near MSRP, Marin who low-balled me), plus 5 internet requests via email: got no response from two, one who wouldn't match my price (Fairfield, wanted $34,200), one who came close (Pleasanton), one who low-balled me, he wouldn't honor our agreed price when I showed up at the dealership (Marin). The guy at Fairfield Acura spammed me for weeks, always ignoring my email responses, half the time coming back with totally illiterate UPPERCASE spam, I get the feeling more than one internet salesman was using the same email address as sometimes it was coherent, or maybe the guy just liked to drink and drivel.
Anyway, I ended up at Pleasanton, I just happened to be walking by on my way to another store and thought I'd stop in to see the internet/fleet salesman, the most professional and literate salesman I had encountered in all of my email encounters; he had already offered me a very good price on the phone so I thought I'd pop in to tell him that if he was ever ready to match my price, and had the car in stock, I'd be ready to buy. The thing was, I was in absolutely no rush to buy a car so there was nothing any car dealer could say to 'put me into this car today'; if I can offer just one piece of advice to all of you, it's this: if at all possible, don't buy a car when you need it in a hurry, there is much bargaining power to be had in not appearing desperate. Anyway, I lucked out, the exact car had just arrived, still in its wrapping, it hadn't even made it to their web site inventory yet (I was checking all the local dealers daily, you can get to them by visiting acura.com and looking for dealers), plus it just happened to be the famous 'end of the month' where all dealers will sell you any car for five dollars. The salesman was as professional and polite in person as he was in email and on the phone, we back and forthed a little, but not really, I was standing firm because I didn't care, and suddenly I got the deal I wanted. Not the greatest price of all the ones I see in this forum, but a fair price, and an excellent one for the bay area (based on my experiences with the other dealers). Price is a tricky thing, it depends on so many factors like if the color is popular or the color combo is in abundance or hard to find right now, the time of the month and if they have met their quotas, what part of the country you live in, etc. Because he can't guarantee to match this price again, the internet salesman has asked me not to quote the price I got, and I will honor that, all I will say is he started at a fair price, and went down from there.
The car (after one day) appears to be flawless, everything working as expected, no rattles, no torque steer, no hopping over bumps, just zoom zoom zoom, oh never mind, wrong car.
Paul
I'd like to cut to the chase. I agree with another e-mailer, I like dealing with the Pleasanton guy, overall.
I found that when I told dealers I was closing the deal, another flurry of price bidding occurred. Thus, don't sign or commit until about 48 hours after communicating to the group that you're going to sign. Just my $0.02...
They quickly appraised my trade and the salesperson actually lowered the price of the vehicle $100 since my trade was appraised $100 lower than I hoped. The final price for my TL w/ NAV was $33,023.00. The whole process took around an hour and that included the 15 minutes I took to be certain of the color vehicle I desired.
Conversely, my experience at Park Acura was terrible. I went in knowing my price information and made it clear that I wanted their best price and would simply take it or leave it without playing their pricing games. The salesperson deemed it necessary to show me all the numbers the car would cost at retail. He stated they had some room to move but seemed to express we were talking around $1000. I told him he was not even close and that I knew he would not waste my time nor would I waste his. He asked what I was thinking - hinting for me to throw out a number. I stated that I was thinking he should come back with his best number and I would take it or leave it, paying cash on the spot.
Then the manager came out to talk to me. He wanted to know if we were talking about a car on the lot and when the deal would be consummated. I assured him that the car was on the lot and I would write a check that very night. He began rambling on again at which point I politely interrupted and again stated what I wanted. This evidently irritated him, so he turned to me and stated that we would not be doing business. It was the best thing that happened to me while I was at Park Acura.
I saved a ton of money at Acura of Cleveland and also discovered I could get the factory rims chromed through a company online which saved me another $900 that I would have paid Park.
Congratulations! That's an awesome deal.
I agree with you that car buying shouldn't be so difficult. It seems shrouded in this mystery and we the car buyers are often "afraid" of misstepping or not doing something by "dealer protocol". Some salesmen on the forums seem actually insulted if a potential buyer approaches them as you did. As consumers, we don't have to play the song and dance when we buy other items, even houses. I'm glad you got the car you wanted.
Best wishes.
Abyss Blue Pearl with Camel leather, All season floor mats, Trunk tray, Front-Rear-and side body spoilers, Body side molding, Moonroof visor, 18" Sparkle silver high performance alloy wheels, Gold emblems, Rear wind spoiler, Door visors, Door edge trim.
All the options, documentation fee, Tax tag and title and delivery fee out the door at $37,000. The MSRP for all of this is right at $42,000. Does the $37000 seem like a good deal?
On the other hand, if you're going to keep it for life, it may be a great deal that you can be happy with.
Did you deal with Motorcars Acura? If so, how did they treat you?
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2005 TL w/no navigation
42 months
15k miles a year
$469 a month
No money down just first month payment, $469
all taxes rolled in
Also pay tag & title out of pocket (minor)
First, the selling prices of a leased vehicle can be negotiated, just as if you were buying it. Without knowing this car's selling price in relation to its MSRP you don't know whether you're getting a discount or not.
The second reason is that one needs the selling price and MSRP, including the destination charge, of a vehicle is to calculate the lease payment.
Sometimes salespeople want you to lease based on a monthly payment, but it's important to know exactly what you're paying for.
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Some car dealers are just looking for customers who only want to talk monthly payment, as they can hide all sorts of fees or a bad rate as long as you end up with the payment you want. I would never buy or lease a vehicle without knowing the purchase price and the residual value.
Most people on these forums, by the way, would advise you against leasing longer than 36 months. Although Acuras are notoriously reliable, you will be responsible for paying for repair items outside the warranty.
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If it was a Honda Finance lease, I'd say it is a good deal... especially, if it includes all NYS taxes.. But, on Acura's website, it says Honda Finance doesn't write leases longer than 39 months in New York..
I never like leasing through third-party finance companies... They have no stake in making sure you are happy at lease-end..
So, the money part looks okay... You'll be going out of warranty the last two months, though.. Do you know if it is a Honda Finance lease?
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I was told it was a Honda Finance Lease. I will reconfirm that. And I was also told everything rolled in, including taxes. My only out of the pocket is first month, $469. My taxes are 8% where I live. They are also getting me out of an Ford Expedition that I am under water in. That does not figure into the price as I have kept it seperate so far.
If it is Honda Finance, then it is a good deal.. Although, I'd like to see the 39 month quote, just to get a comparison... If it were within $10-$15/month, I'd go that way, to stay in warranty for the entire lease term.. But, I get the feeling that they have special deals on 42 month leases.. my local dealer is advertising them, also.
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I thought this was a bit pricey. Can I expect to get this price down or do they pretty much stick to their "internet" prices? If dealers do come off this, any idea of what kind of difference it would make? $500 off, less than $500, more than $500? Anybody get a good deal in this area?