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Ford F-150 SUPERCREW
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i just got back from driving several hours in a 30 mph crosswind. and yes, a supercrew is more difficult to keep straight then a car in similar situations. i have had owned several other trucks and would say the s-crew drives just as good...in a windy or any other situation.
I thought I would post my observations after just shy of 6 months and 6000 miles. Most of my driving is highway around Houston, TX, with a few long trips every month to the hill country and Dallas.
First, the seats are wonderful. Took me a bit to get used to the shorter seat compared to the old XLT, but after that, these seats are a dream. The heated seats were the most amazing thing to me. When I saw them, I thought I would never use them (Texas and all), but I have found I use them 3/5 times I am in the truck (for my wife the ratio is 4/5) In the winter, the use is obvious, however, in the summer they work exceptionally well to relax a tired back.
Engine: definitely can tell the power difference between the 4.6L and the 5.4L. Amazingly, the gas mileage is the same. Have noticed rpm "oscilation" in the cold mornings of late. Will watch it to see what might be happening.
Steering: Loose compared to my XLT. I liked the XLT better, as it was tighter and you could maintain lanes better on the hwys of Houston. Backing the KR is harder as well since the steering is too sensitive. My wife likes the new steering as it is "easier" to park for her.
[Note on backing -- the bed lights in the KR don't seem to function like the XLT's. When backing the XLT, the bed lights turned on and helped you to back. The KR's don't seem to do this.]
Climate Control: Not too impressed with the automatic system. I would have preffered the older 3 knob layout. Someone did a poor job of ergonomics with this new system (hint to Ford: words are harder to decipher compared with icons!), and it can have a mind of it's own. Lack of a Manual Norm AC position can be frustrating. The auto system deletes the overhead temperature guage in deference to the one on the climate control.
Cargo: I was somewhat worried having a bed that was 1 foot shorter, but so far it has worked well, especially with the fold down gate. I have not weighted the truck down yet, but I'm sure spring chores will take care of that.
Driving: Aside from the steering, this is a very comfortable vehicle. I liked the XLT's arm rest positions better compared with the KR, but I'm getting used to the new layout slowly. The new truck has ample acceleration. With 5 people in the cab, you notice only in the handling, not the acceleration. I have yet to tow anything with it... will report back during fishing season.
Stereo: No complaints, with a few better features compared to my XLT. I think the basic Ford truck stereos are nice for the money you pay for them.
CD Changer: A pain to get to. My XLT was easier to use, and it was in the back seat! Problem is the size of the center console basket compared with the lid of the console. Takes two people to make it easy.
Other: Several of my friends have dubbed my new car "The Blue Lodge" and suggested I hang an antler chandelier from the moon roof. I guess some bearskin rugs are next. I do notice they don't complain though when they hop in my truck and place their rear ends on that leather...
Any questions, just yell.
Kirk
PS I am so glad I bought this model. I just don't like the new interior of the 2004 truck.
10-12 mpg sounds awfully poor for SCrew driven conservatively - my V10 Crew Cab, F350, 4x4, long bed outweighs you by almost 1500 lbs and gets same mileage. Are you running with a load? Is your truck a 4x4, if so do you leave hubs locked? Is the parking brake dragging? Are you using trip computer or calculating mileage manually from fill up to fil up? If truck is really new - may just take some time to get its act together - my mileage got somewhat better once I had about 5K on engine. Might be worth a visit to dealer to have them check it over for things that can affect mileage
Varnish, is very common in poorer gas mixtures. Varnish will coat the fuel line walls and gas tank. When the alcohol comes into contact with the varnish, desolves it and sends it into you fuel injectors. Larger pieces are (of course) collected by the fuel filter. I think you will find that the manufacturer recomends that the fuel injectors be clean out every 10 to 15k anyway...this will become very important to people who live in areas that have colder winter climates. I think you will find that fuel mileage will increase....ps. fuel additives that claim to clean injectors will not do a good enough job....and please don't let the wife run the truck out of gas...this will also send you to the mechanic to have these injector cleaned out..
so much for fuel filters....
Thanks a bunch
Ray
This is minimal towing - maybe 2-3 times a month for 4-5 months a year (during the kids' recreational rodeo season) and except for maybe 1-2 times a year, the longest towing trip would be about 50 miles up the interstate (fairly flat).
Since the daily use of this truck would be 60 miles round trip on the freeway to work; gas mileage for the smaller V8 would be desirable.
I'm looking at the SCrew with towing package and 3.55 limited slip differential.
Would you recommend the 5.4L engine?
According to the dealer, the color is Amazon green which was a carry over from the previous year for Ford, and it didn't last the entire model year. Were the adjustable pedals added as std. equip during the model year??
I asked about the radio , if it had speed adjusting volume. I was told "no". I later found out that our truck does have this feature.
After i read the owners book , I set the automatic speed adjusting volume to the level we like.
A popping sound from behind the driver's side 2nd row seat. It "pops" with almost every bump on the road (which is alot in Austin Texas). Thanks for any feedback.
We'll be using the pickup as a daily driver as well as a weekend hauler for a 6300 pound boat and trailer. Twice per year the truck will serve as the vehicle for a 600-mile road trip towing a 1500 pound trailer and a family of four down the East Coast from Maryland to South Carolina.
I've been helping my dad pick out the right truck and its been a struggle to convince him to see the light on a 5.4L V8 over a 4.6L V8 though I think I've been successful in that regard. However, 4WD isn't going to happen as he sees it as an unneccessary expense.
We're looking to find a truck for $25,000 or less after rebates and everything. What can we expect to pay for these trucks? Is Edmunds.com TMV pricing accurate, or is paying Invoice minus rebates reasonable, or do these trucks go for Less Than Invoice minus rebates?
Please share views on the Ford v Chevy v Dodge **for our application and finances** as well as recommendations on worthwhile options and engine choices, etc.
Thanks!
Ben
The salepeople would yap about increased resale value and I would tell them about decreased MPG and higher repair costs for something I did not want.
We bought a 2001 Super Crew with a 5.4 engine. This was the FIRST Ford I ever bought(I'll be 50 years old soon). Not one single problem with it in 34k miles.
Last tank was at 16.3 MPG.
As I recall the 5.4 motor also includes a slightly higher GVW rating for the truck.
Local hi-way patrol(AZ) tested this thing. a small report on TV was "mixed" results. This means NFG to me. As a mechanic I see no value in the placement of the tornado designed item in the intake.
Same deal with the billet aluminum spacers that bolt in between the engine and throttle body with grooves machined in them. On Fords they seem to whistle for some reason.
I have a K&N replacement filter in our 2001 Super Crew 4x2,5.4 engine, no exhaust add on ect. The mileage was high 14's when new. At 34k miles the unit just gave us 16.7 mpg.
I use synthetic motor oil by choice. I have been a mechanic, racer, restoration type person for decades and I like syn oils.
I do not know if the mileage claims are true with syn oils.
Next: I also own a 2000 1500 Silverado 4x2, 5.3 engine, xtra-cab. I have used an exhaust cat back system with an AirAid intake/filter setup. The ONLY place I see increased power & mileage is when the truck is hooked up to my car trailer.
Normal day - day driving show'd no improvement on MPG in the chevy .
Best thing for better MPG is intelligent driving and keep your tires air'd up correctly. Keep the spare air'd up too! A flat spare tire when you have a flat is no fun , but I don't want to talk about it.... LOL
Tony
The theory is that the little fan blades rotate, interupt some of the fuel droplets and break them into still smaller droplets. This can increase fuel density and subsequently fuel distribution and volumetric efficiency in an otherwise marginal design. In more up to date carburetor systems, these little creatures have cause hesitation complaints, especially has fuel mixtures became leaner.
In a modern system fuel delivery system, especially throttlebody fuel injection versions, I would be hard pressed to believe that you would gain any efficiency. Modern intake manifold designs are very, very effective in producing small fuel droplet sizes. Disturbing the factory design flow characteristics will change something, probably to the detriment of engine performance somewhere in the operating range.
In a port injected system you'll see nothing but a loss.
Regards,
Dusty
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/reviews/healey/2003-07-17-f-1- 50-review_x.htm
Ever heard of mildew, mold, and stinky carpet/padding? $40k plus vehicle that comes standard with these features. Nice bonus.
Any feedback from others and their wet super crew mats?
Thanks....
Zderf
I guess the truck is making the rounds for all to see it at the dealer.
I've done some searching at Edmond's on used truck prices, but haven't found where i can enter all the extras (especially the cap). I'd appreciate any insight you all can give me, ASAP.
Thanks,
Elizabeth
engine (4x4)? thanx
Spotted several 04 150 Crews decked out as Yellow Cabs. WOW....
Stopped by local Ford dealer..They must of had 50+ 04s on the lot !
Heres a good laugh....A big GM shindig was in town at the Sands convention center. They had a set up at the Thomas & Mack center with a bunch of new GM vehicles to test drive..........
On the corner at the entrance was a new 04 Crew hanging by a crane as you drove into the lot with a big banner saying "NEW FORD F-150 HERE NOW!!!!"
Bet those GM honchos were NOT pleased !......geo