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There are a few old posts about Lee's you might want to do a search for too. Hope this helps.
Laura
Hmm - interesting, lets hope you got the right car ..... because there isn't a single one that shows in the auction reports - and I'm at the Tampa/Orlando auctions almost as many times as I play golf ..... maybe you got a floater from Louisiana .....?
Terry.
Let's hope not.
Here are a few data points in my favor:
The car was auctioned by an east coast Florida dealer - so I seriously doubt it was anywhere near Louisana. Check the October 18th Market Report and it should be listed on that report.
Second, since the VIN's of all Avalons are apparently formatted the same, it showed up on the Manheim report as an XLS and not a Limited. So it might be a simple case of mistaken identity.
Apparently, the car was never been put into service (according to Carfax and my local Toyota service center). Also, the title shows the car was never sold before my purchase. Finally, my guy is a very well respected buyer of cars at that auction and he personally asked a number of potential bidders to "stand down" so that he could buy the car without a horde of competitors. Professional courtesy I suppose.
The Florida dealer initially refused to sell the car for less than $30K but after a few minutes of tense negotiation, they finally accepted the final bid of $28.5K (which didn't hit their reserve of $30K) rather than run it another week.
So by adding all those factors up combined with the fact that I brought it by my dealer yesterday for an infusion of Mobil 1 and a thorough checking out (it recieved a clean bill of health), I am hoping that I am fortunate. I have no squeaks, rattles, pulling to the right, or any hesitation to report either.
Charles Maund Toyota wasn't even in the ballpark, being nearly $1000 higher . . . though they DID extend an offer for me to come in for a "special VIP meeting with a SALES MANAGER!" (I told them that since we already agreed on the car, color, and options, and I was paying cash, there was no need for me to make a special trip - he could tell me everything on the phone. And the gal who called me wasn't quite sure of the sales manager's name!) Even after I told them they weren't competitive, they didn't move on price.
When I actually went in to buy the car, the grinning finance manager at Champion offered me a GREAT OPPORTUNITY to buy a super-duper package of tire insurance, extra theft insurance, windshield insurance, extended warranty, paint sealant, fabric and leather protector, etc., all for the piddling price of "only" around $4200!! Being a stubborn sort unable to see a good thing, I declined his kind offer .. .
One more thing . . . ALL the dealers complained about Gulf States Toyota adding on hundreds of $$ of extra charges. For some reason, the on-line "invoice guides" don't show this for Gulf States like they do for Southeastern Toyota.
Good luck, and be sure to let us know how you do on your LTD.
I was offered $25,000 before Tax, Tags, and Title from one dealership and I received two internet bids of $25,600 and $25,800.
Are these good deals?
for the XL with mats and 6 CD changer - 25600 (excluding tax,title and tags)
for the XL with VSC,brake assist, traction control, mats, power sunroof, anti-theft and 6 CD changer ) - 26995
This is in the northeast.
Please let me know if the "Price is Right"
Got a price from Champions internet department and the salesman tried to sell me a extra package for stuff I did not want that added $1781 to the MSRP. I finally got him to understand what I wanted on the car and he got back to me with the window price and said it was as low as he could go. Only after I reminded him that he was contacted through one of the online auto shopping services did he agree to even give me the so called invoice price. He still insisted that I must come in to talk to his sales manager before he could come off of the MSRP. I was so mad that I just hung up on him
I than called a friend of a friend at a out of town dealer and he called me back in about 15 minutes and said he could sell it for 1 1/2% over invoice. I got the LTD in the same colors as yours with VSC, Dynamic Laser Cruise Control, NAV, mudguards, wheel locks and 5 piece floor mats. He located the care through Gulf Coast and traded for it and had them add only the items I wanted.
It will be in in late November.
Anyone do better?
It was incredibly simple to buy out of state. We paid no tax, title, or registration fees to the dealer. He gave us a 30 day temporary plate. When I received the "Certificate of Origin" (which is the Kansas equivalent of a title) I took it and the bill of sale to the local Secretary of State office. I applied for the title, registered the car and paid the taxes and registration fees.They issued me my new plate and the Michigan title came in the mail a few weeks later. Make sure you get a 30 day temporary plate as it took a good three weeks to get the Certificate of Origin.
At our Southeastern Michigan dealers, we could not come close to the kind of deal we got in Hutchinson, Kansas. We saved thousands of dollars, hope you can too!
Laura
Got an email reply from the dealer who said they do out of state transactions all the time and that I'd only have to pay $19 for a 60 day temp tag and tire fee + $99 processing fee. Only MI taxes and registration would be added after that. Sounds pretty much like what you described.
Took a look at Travelocity and found regular $79 flights to Dulles. The dealer said he'd meet me at the airport and I could drive home from there (495 miles).
This is much better deal than I've been able to find locally although I haven't been "hard shopping" yet.
I expect to purchase mid to end of November and if I can't find something really close to this deal locally by then, I might just have to jump on a plane. Doesn't really sound like too much of a hassle to save a couple of thousand bucks?
Could you tell us what price you were quoted at Fitzgerald Automall?
Thx!
I was also given the opportunity to purchase the various warranty and appearance packages amounting to about $4000, but said no. There was no pressure. I did ask for a better price for a 7 yr. 100,000 extended warranty, and he dropped it from about $2100 to $1600, but that is still significantly higher than I would pay.
I had also contacted Calvert in San Antonio which was slightly less, but not worth the drive South. Classic was slow to respond, kept sending me form emails, and I fannly dropped them. After I had taken delivery they called asking me if I had bought a car yet. Maund was out in space somewhere. I just assumed they really don't want internet business.
I am going to contact the Champion Toyota dealer in Austin.
You said that your experience with them was very pleasant. That sounds good. Could you tell me who sold you the car. That is the person that I would like to talk to.
Thanks for any information that you can give me. I know that you must be enjoying your new Avalon.
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regards,
kyfdx
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Thank you.
Not only do they have an extremely large selection of virturally every toyota model (except Prius), but the sales tranaction was EXTREMELY pleasant and only took about ten minutes.
There was a never mention of rust proofing or undercoating or any of the other BS by the salesperson. The finance manager asked it once while we were going through our motions
Before Sunrise, we went to Smithtown Toyota. I thought they were rather pleasant while I was still shopping for a car. But boy did they change when we actually set down with them. This one particular sales person actually told us to leave and that he cannot do business with us when I offered him about $500 over invoice....
I can see the appearance difference. But why do some colors, like "pine mica" come only in the "perf. lthr." and not the "full lthr.?"
Also, the Sirius sat. description says the installed radio head handles the Sirius. No need for a separate head unit. Is this true for the "factory installed" Sirius?
TIA
800-1000
The perforated leather only comes on the Limited models, as they have both heated and cooled seats. The color of the exterior makes no difference, if it is a Limited then it has perforated leather.
Both XM and Sirius are options now I think; both require a Toyota add-on module if you want the satellite radio. The existing head unit will handle them, but you have to have the module. It can either be factory installed or added on later. Of course, you have to buy the actual Toyota module if you want it integrated with your factory radio head. You can buy it online and have your own local radio shop do the install if you wish.
I have XM, and after only about six weeks feel that I will never have another vehicle without it. Am buying an another unit to add to my home sound system. Satellite radio is a fantastic thing, well worth the $$$ in my opinion.
Mike
Did not realize that about the "perf. lthr." seats only in the Limited.
I have a Sirius on my Honda now with a separate Panasonic head unit. I wonder if my "module" can be used with the Toyota factory head? Where can one get further info. (other than from dealers)
Thanks again.
Dealer in east end of Louisville, KY (like many others) wanted me to come to showroom to "see and talk". After firm agreement about the price, salesperson brought papers with nearly $800.00 of dealer commisions added to agreed price. Not only did the guy wasted my 45 minutes, but also lost my business as well as trust. Wonder when will these dealers learn that business needs to be done honestly and with trust.I think Edmunds should not list such dealerships in E mail, that use internet simply to try and play old game of wasting a customer's time.
I used the internet folks at Kuhn Morgan Toyota in Tampa. The only car buying experience I have ever enjoyed. Completely no hassle. Expect delivery in less than 3 weeks. Also includes a full tank of gas and I'll probably get a few dollars back from the tag transfer fee.
I arranged an e-loan for 60 months at 5.45% The finance guy at Kuhn Morgan thinks he might be able to knock 0.25% off that rate. Either way I'm felling pretty good.
Vehicle & Accessory Selling Price: $31,369.93
Dealer Admin Fee: $ 499.99
Sales TAx: $ 1,962.20
License, Title, Tag fee: $ 125.00
Lemon Law fee: $ 8.89
Total: $33,966.00
The Kelley Blue Book (KBB.com) has the following info:
Invoice: $29,757.00
DEstination Charge: $ 580.00
Add'l Freight (SE Toyota) $ 55.00
SE Toyota Admin Charge: $ 585.00
Floor Mats (invoice) $ 171.60
Wind Deflector(invoice) $ 107.80
Window Tint (estimate) $ 199.00
Total $31,455.40
So I may have caught a slight break if I got the mats & deflector I think I got (2 are listed on KBB.com)
Let me know if this is helpful.
Rod
Thanks,
Tampa Gator
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Tampa Gator
Yes, it is the same Toyota warranty. Some (who paid a "discount" price of only $1300) were doubtful, so one person posted a scan of the document.
Hope this helps.
Laura
Silver Pine Mica Limited '06
with:
VSC
Brake Assist
Traction Control
Mud Gards
Sirius Sat. Radio ( no head unit, intergrated w/radio)
Laser Cruise Control
Nav
Carpet Mats and trunk
Toyogard
OTD (Car, Taxes, Title & Doc.s) $36,900
Central FL. Toyota
There are a lot of prices out there; looking at seven dealers in my area, excluding the folks who want MSRP, I found more than $2000 difference in quotes on the same vehicle. Here is the vehicle I requested quotes on:
2006 Toyota Avalon Limited (3554)-----Base MSRP 33815
Vehicle Stability Control (VS)--------------------650
Special Color (Blizzard Pearl) (PC)---------------220
Five Piece Mat Set (CF)---------------------------199
Destination Charge--------------------------------540
-------------------------------------Total MSRP 35424
I will not deal with "invoice" prices here as every dealer seems to have a completely different story (lots of apples and oranges here!!).
The price I paid for the above vehicle was $32024+TTL(all TTL is at actual cost) plus a $35 doc fee, no dealer prep fees or any other fees. After a lot of shopping (mostly by internet), I feel I got a reasonable price for my area.
The dealer purchased from was "Heartland Toyota" of Bremerton, Washington. The purchase was pleasent and painless without the normal "games" I have come to dread.
Now it's just sit back and wait for a "build date" and "simmer" over the 8.7% sales tax we have to pay on everything but groceries in this state. (Ya, Right, No state income tax here!)
Rod