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MSRP = $26,003
invoice = $24,203
price I paid = $22,296 (after rebate)
I am very happy with this deal. They are very willing to deal right now on the Foresters. They still have a boat load of them and the 2007 models are coming soon.
Sounds like a good deal!! Just curious what dealership in Beaverton you used? Looks like you are a few hundred dollars under the quote I got. What options other than what comes with the Premium did you get? Are there lots of colors to choose from?
Thanks!!
2006 Forester 2.5 X with Premium Package:
2.5 liter SOHC engine, 16" alloy wheels, Power steering, windows, locks, mirrors, tilt wheel, cruise control, air conditioning, with climate control, anti lock brakes, side impact airbags, dual front compartment air bags, remote keyless entry, 8 way power drivers seat, and a 6 disc CD player. power moon roof, the all weather package (heated seats mirrors and wipers) dual air bags and ABS brakes.
2006 Forester 2.5 X with Premium Package
Subaru Factory added options on this vehicle: Popular equipment group 1E: Cargo tray, bumper cover and splash guards, tweeter, and tail pipe cover.
Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price: $27,003.00
Manufacturers Suggested Retail Price w/ Discount: $26,003.00
Dealer Invoice cost $24.203.00
YOUR WHOLESALE PRICE: $22,595.00 (includes rebates/incentives if any)
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If you wish to add leather, ADD:
Retail: $1299.00
YOUR WHOLESALE PRICE: $1099.00
Well, I finally bit the bullet and bought the Forester XT Limited this evening. Here's the deal: $25,349.00 for an automatic with the only addition being the rear bumper cover. Got the steel grey metallic. Also, got free 3000 and 7500 service and the option to purchase the top of the line 7 year warranty for 50% off in three years when the 36 month warranty expires (by then I will have accrued enough Subaru bucks and it will actually be free). They also threw in a lanyard, two Subaru pens, a T-shirt, baseball cap and two Subaru keychains.
So, what do you guys think? Did I get a good deal? I sure hope I like the car - right before I bought it, I finally found a used 2005 with only 15,000 miles and every extra goodie they make (yes, even the special foot pedals) that I could have bought for $22,500. It was a black one and I didn't want a black car, so I paid $3000 more to get the steel grey one. Stupid, huh? I still can't believe I finally bought it. Fabulous to drive, just TOUCH the gas and the thing FLIES!
Samantha
I had my windows tinted a while ago and it was $170, SolarGard dyed film. The metallic stuff costs more, so for $300 make sure you're getting the top quality stuff.
Subaru Bucks? Maybe not, unless the dealer does the work himself.
-juice
Saw mention here, the holdback is $748?
Is the delivery fee of $625 real, actually charged to the dealer? (central Virginia).
Whats the feeling on "processing fees"? I threatened to walk on a deal once, got the fee waived. Car dealers deserve to make a living but I do make it easy on them (here's my check, I'll take that car there). What's a "fair" profit for a quick deal, $300-$500?
Thanks,--
Samantha
I think the $748 profit is a fair deal, $300-500 profit is a good deal, and anything less is a great deal.
Processing fees? Usually $35 bucks around here, so not really enough to worry about one way or the other, to me. If it bugs you, but the dealer insists on charging it as a matter of policy, you can always ask for an extra to be thrown in as compensation - all-weather rubber floormats, a couple free oil changes, or something.
Looks like I've got one nailed down for 19,500 (automatic), they'll waive the standard "processing fee" of $239.
Not bad at 19.5K, should last me for 15 years :-)
-juice
Samantha
Anybody remember the "added dealer markup" days?
We love our new car, and though I was tempted by the power of the XT, the X has plenty to offer, and I don't have to feel guilty or worried about gas consumption. I keep finding excuses to drive it, offering to run errands for friends and family.
Big up to Edmunds, and http://www.carbuyingtips.com/ for massive help.
Also, does anyone know the amount of the factory to dealer incentive for a 2006 Forester x Premium?
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In March, the Forester actually outsold the Outback, and became the #1 selling model.
-juice
For the Forester, is it still only $1k on the non-X models?
-juice
Somewhere along the line, I'd stop at a Jeep dealership and pretend you are looking to trade in for a newer Liberty or maybe a Grand Cherokee. Go through the process and negotiate your best trade. That would probably give you an idea of the high-end trade value in your area, and you could then use that quote in discussions with non-Jeep dealers. I moved the needle trading an 03 Maxima at an Acura dealership by $3100 using this technique.
Don't forget the "whack-a-mole" effect - if you drive the price down too far in one place, they'll try to pop it back up somewhere else!
I think your quote is with rebate.
Thanks in advance.
Hmmm - assume 200 miles 'twixt Rochester and Fitzmall, that's about 80-100 bucks just to save $100. And you'd go nutz driving back at 60 mph in order to do a proper break-in, what with having to vary the speed and all that for the first 1000 miles.
Yes, it is easy to go overboard just to be able to brag that you got a super deal on a new car.
I am not insulting you as owners, and I have never owned a Subaru, but I expected better service from a brand that touts itself as more refined than other brands. The first Subaru dealership I visited was an even worse experience -- I went to see a Forester I requested a quote for, and they knew I was coming at a certain time, and when I got there the car didn't even run!! It looked like it had been used -- it had regular car wax residue on it, the back window had tape marks at the bottom like the window had been broken out and taped for a long time, and when you looked through the wheel rims, the braking system was all rusty. If Subaru thinks customers are going to pay a premium price for this kind of service, they are mistaken. I'm not insulting you as owners, but the dealers around here need to get it together. If Subaru wants to cater to educated folks of today, their dealerships should stop all the old school wheelin'-dealin' B.S. because I don't have time for that! :mad:
And Subaru can't improve customer service if they're not aware of it.
-juice
Hmm... now that I think about it, I've driven about 250 miles and crossed an international border just to get a good donut. Mmm... donut.
I don't know what the actual service will be like when I bring the car in for repairs, but hopefully I won't have to do that very often.
Anyway, I'm lovin' my car and planning on bringing home baked cookies to the sales staff! The only issue I'm having is that my gas mileage is still less than expected, but I'm only on my second tank.
I think the Subaru dealership you went to must have been an uncharacteristically bad one. Subaru seems to have the best informed salespeople in the business. I also checked out Toyota and Honda and found that their sales staffs were ill-informed and, in the case of Toyota, downright rude (the guy made me wait in the car (a RAV 4) while he stood outside yacking on his cell phone on a personal call instead of taking me for a test drive). The Mitsubishi guys were inexperienced and the dealership appeared disorganized and poorly run. The BMW guys seemed disinterested (maybe because I'm a woman?). Meanwhile, my XT can blow their X3 off the road!
Samantha
Are there any real performance differences between the X and X Premium when driving in the snow -- I live in Ohio, and we sometimes get 4-6 inches, but usually just get 2-3 inches a few times a year.
What do people think the incentives will do in May -- anyone think there's a chance they will offer $2000 on the X w/Premium package?
Thanks.
Outside mirrors with integrated turn signals
Body colored exterior door handles
Power driver's seat
16" 8-spoke alloy wheels (X has steel wheels)
Upgraded cloth, velour
Rear disc brakes (X has rear drums)
EBD Electronic Brake Distribution varies braking front/rear depending on cargo
All Weather Package: large outside defrosting mirrors, heated front seats, front windshield wiper de-icer
Limited slip rear differential
Stereo: 120w CD in-dash changer, AM/FM/Weatherband, antenna in left rear glass
Stereo: 4 Upgraded Speakers
Automatic climate control with Daybright feature
Power moonroof with auto open-close, cloth sunshade
Chromed interior door handles
Illuminated ignition ring
Gray Metallic painted outside mirrors
Leather wrapped steering wheel,
Leather parking brake handle
Leather shift knob
Leather manual transmission shift boot
Front seat back pockets
The Premium does add the limited slip rear differential, so I would think it should be even better when you need to start out on a slick surface. Maybe someone else here has better tech knowledge to explain how that works. Another biggie to me is the rear disc brakes with Electronic Brake Distribution - wish it was standard on the X. As far as the 6-disc goes, it can be installed, but many folks choose to go with an aftermarket stereo when they upgrade - my salesperson even recommended doing that. The Premium offers so many goodies (including that huge moonroof!), it's hard to pass up if you can afford it. Of course, the X is pretty darn loaded for a "base" model. If it were up to me and I could afford it, I'd take the Premium - you get a lot for your money and all the upgrades make it feel like a much more expensive vehicle.
I don't think the incentives on the Premium will get any better in May than they are now, but who knows for sure?
Fortunately, I want most of those things.
Unfortunately, the incentives is $1000 for the Premiums, and $2000 for the X model. Bummer.
-juice
Huh?!?! I would hardly call an offer of $500 over invoice "terrible" much less "rediculous" Since this is your first Subaru experience maybe you're not aware that Subarus, like most Japanese makes, don't normally sell for less than invoice. Perhaps you're simply accustomed to seeing the big three's vehicles selling for thousands less than invoice.
I can't excuse the dealership giving you the run-around but rather than blame Subaru for the actions of an independent dealer, you're better served by voting with your feet and buying somewhere else. Just send the general manager a note letting him know why they lost your business.
-Frank
That makes it hard, even though I want a Forester, to buy one here knowing that the next closest dealer is about 40 miles away, and I would never take it there for servicing.
I was not asking them to "give" their car away. I just wanted a reasonable price for theirs, and a reasonable price for mine. Between what I could get for their Forester, and what they were willing to give me for my Jeep, we were about $1000 apart from getting me the monthly payment I said I would pay.
They wanted to give me below rock bottom value for my Jeep, and I know it is worth more than that. The highest computer trade-in value was like $15,000 and the next highest was like $13,250, and since mine is in excellent condition, I think I should have been able to get closer to $14,000. This is not asking too much from the dealer. They were not willing to give me more than $13,200 -- that's after they first came back with $12,500 and I said absolutely NO and went home, and they had to wait until the next day to talk to their managers. . . They could put the truck on their used car lot anywhere from $16,000 - $18,000, so giving me close to $14,000 is not unreasonable for them to make a profit in my opinion. I have checked on used car sites in my area, and this is what they are offered at -- and those offered don't have as many features as mine has.
I do not want to sell it on my own because of safety issues (you never know who will show up to look at it) and because of any liability issues. There is nothing wrong with my Jeep that I know of, and I wouldn't want someone to buy it, and then something did go wrong and they try to sue me -- that happened to a co-worker of mine and his family lost and had to pay the people who bought his car.
Any suggestions?
I had contemplated others like the Rav4, Matrix, Outlander, Element, CRV, Liberty, and even some sedans/hatches like the Civic Camry and Mazda3. For the equipment, interior space, horsepower, and allwheel drive I could not touch it.
Indeed, I paid $19.2k way back in 1998 for my L model, so these prices are unheard of given the extra content they have now.
Congrats.
-juice
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