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Let's see if Subaru fixes that for 2011.
I agree that they don't fit well. Best thing I've done is to remove the partition in the rear cup holder that separates it from the "small purse holder" area...or so they called in the catalog. This gave just a bit more room to get my kleen kanteen to be able to stay in there upright...but, it is tight.
Also, installed class III hitch from U-Haul (a 30 minutes job). Ordered plug-in electric module from e-Trailer (neatly plugs into an existing Subaru harness in the spare tire area.). All done and works great!
As far as cup holders, I moved the rear one to the middle cross section (rear slides on to the middle cross section and opens the "small purse holder" for more room, as described by the previous poster). With those window cup holders (as described earlier) I have now 2 cup holders that hold securely regular diameter water bottles or small diameter Thermos or similar bottles. The large ones indeed do not fit. Oh well, there are always the "door" cup holders for additional water bottles.
Since these cars are in high demand, most that you could probably get is the dealer's invoice - if they show it to you or if you do your homework on Edmunds website.
Some models, like Forester XTs are more desirable in certain markets than others.
Good luck with 2 K below invoice (hopefully you are referring to "dealer's invoice" and not "sticker" invoice.
Let us know though...
How late into the model year do you think it will be before it would be possible?
In places, where there is more than one dealrship, you could drive the price down considerably more than if you live in town, where there is only one.
You can watch dealer's stock on the internet and wait until December 2010. In saturated markets many dealers have "last" years model until then.
However, not all cars on their lots are 1 year old. You can find out the exact month of manufacture by decoding the VIN nmuber. Most dealers finance their cars on their lots thorugh banks until they are sold. Obviously, the oldest ones are the ones that you could get a better deal.
By doing your homework, find out the month, when the car was manufacured or imported into the country and, again, the oldest ones are the ones that you can could get a better deal.
Also, look at the lower right hand side of the "sticker" to see if the vehicle was shipped and delivered to the dealer that is selling the car. Many cars are traded among dealers and if you see there name other than your dealer's, you could get a better deal on that car.
As a former car dealer in So. California I can tell you that there are just too many variables to cover this subject.
One thing though, do not "fall in love" with the car that you are buying. Focus on your price target instead, regardles of color or options installed.
Pick the exact car and add ons she wants, total the invoice price according to Edmunds or consumer reports and offer $1000 below that. B e prepared to negotiate or walk. Get your own financing beforehand and compare to their. If they say their 2.9 is only 2w years tell them you have better and they will probably make the 2.9 3 orm 4mnyears
Personally I'd rather have one that's not been driven for $1000 more.
In Northern NJ a dealer 21,395 including destination charge.
In Westchester,...the best I got was: 22,155
Thoughts??
I plan to haggle more when I go in.
Any suggestions/comments?
Thanx,
CS
Thoughts??
trying to help a friend get his best quote on a Forester (w/2.5 X Premium w/All weather pkg (02)).
I have done the email several dealers quote thing with the last two cars I bought but this is the first time with a Subaru and it seem they have all have a website not set up to receive direct emails.They do have a area (same on all the sites-in fact it looks like the standard "Subaru approved" site they all have) where you can send a comment but it requires a phone.He has been hounded by car salesmen in the past and is understandably reluctant to give a number.
We did send a few with "best quote" requests and a fake phone (with a explanation why he was seeking email quotes first) and have had NO responses from 4 dealers.
Anyone else run into this? Any thoughts on next move?
thanks in advance for the feedback/suggestions
You can find their direct email addresses by going to the "white" or "yellow" pages or, calling them up and ask them for internet sales manager's email address.
Otherwise, if you access any dealer through Google, most (if not all) emails are routed through Subaru North America HQ.
We are trying in NH these are pretty small dealerships,maybe they don't all have a dedicated internet guy. Its to so much easier to start with email,he called one place and the guy called him 2 ,then 3 times a week,then every day.
We may have to try Mass.I ended up buying my wife's Lexus down there (with the email search quote) as the only dealer up here would not move on price.
I went to the subaru website and just picked and chose some dealerships in the area to send the email to, in fact Subaru sent back an email a week maybe 2 later asking if all of the dealerships (separately on 1 form) had responded and did they answer my questions to my satidfation - I answered which did and which didn't try to contact me and the next day or 2 I got a response from them too. It may be that phony phone number that you put down, but I understand the hesitation.
For the warranty I went across the country and most answered back thinking I wanted a car, but after I responded no the warranty they passed it onto the finance people - who would call..but I got very few that would call me multiple times. Thank goodness, I despise the car shopping process but find it better with Subaru than some of the others I went into.
$ 21,400.... , with tax plates and registration, $ 23,300 out the door.
Got The color I wanted,
What is the best price anyone has received for an extended Subaru warranty and how many years and miles did it cover?
Any help is appreciated as I have never purchased a Subaru.
What is the best price anyone has received for an extended Subaru warranty and how many years and miles did it cover?
Any help is appreciated as I have never purchased a Subaru.
The best price that is out there (as far as I know) is from (Don) at Mastria Subaru - as indicated earlier on these pages.
There is a huge mark-up on these extended warranties and you do not have to buy it from the dealer that you have purchased your car.
How long is this warranty for?
Dealer price = $21,104 (includes destination)
2010 Forester 2.5X Auto
Special Edition Package - Option 21
Equipment Group 1A - Option F9E
MSRP = $23,041
Invoice = $21,638
You can also get this information from Subaru's official website - everything except the pricing because that is left up to dealers' mark-up.
Give Don a call or send him an email and he will give you a quote (got mine over the internet).
He also posted all the pricing elsewhere on these pages. Remember that they are not allowed to advertise pricing (against Subaru North America's policy).
Typically, it's appx $ 1000 to 1500 while most dealers charge you upward from $ 2000 and tag it in, while you are negotiaing your financing.
It would be for the 2.5x model (non turbo) and A/T
that emailing through the Subaru site did the trick,he got 3 quotes right away and two canned responses that will emailing quotes later.Best part was they,the Subaru site did not require a phone number.
He may try and get some more dealers in Mass this time to see if he can get a better price.So far the best he found was 24250 for the Forester 2.5 Premium Auto with all weather pkg.
try calling Paul at Bill Kolb Jr in NJ. I got the best price from him - though still waiting for the paperwork. He is on vacation until August 17 I think - call him and let him get you a quote, his was the best quote for 7/70K, 0 deductible no money back gurantee though, by far under $1K, but as I mentioned still waiting for paperwork to arrive in the mail. I don't know if all the other quotes I was given were including the money back guarantee - I guess I should call and find out since I can cancel with in 90 days. Also try Matt at garcia motors in New mexico he had good prices in March.
Am I better off getting the 7/70K or 7/100K if I drive 12K a year?
You really just need to decide which has the best cost-benefit because while the 7/100 will last you a full seven years, it will also cost more up front.
You should have insisted on the 2.9% financing special currently going on or done your homework and got a 2.99% loan through AAA or 3.0% loan through Capital One. Would have save you about $480 over the life of the loan.
Look at the extended warranty plans and see which plan works for you. As XWESX mentioned you need to see what will get you to your mileage vs time cheaper - I also got the gold not the classic - also remember the first 36K/3 years are covered by subaru so it's above that that you are really paying coverage on. So 6/70K would work for you. Call many, many dealers and ask for gold and see if you pay $50 ded, vs, $100 vs $0. Maybe you may find they cut a break on a certain deductible vs anyother that you can live with, also the money back guarantee - it may cost more but worth it if you don't use it. I never had a Subaru so can't say from experience if any warranty work is necessary - also depends on driving habits conditions, etc. But something to consider. With my VW I had her in the shop alot not because of my driving just she always required something. Others have no problems with them - I think mine leaked oil too much (which I read they have this issue) once my new mechanic changed the oild to synthetic and 0-5 (?) it had no more issues didn't need to change it for 7K miles. By then I had already bought the Subie though else I may have held out for a year more. to see if they changed the side view mirrors on the Legacy (what a strange thing to do - glad they changed it back for 2011).
Look at the extended warranty plans and see which plan works for you. As XWESX mentioned you need to see what will get you to your mileage vs time cheaper - I also got the gold not the classic - also remember the first 36K/3 years are covered by subaru so it's above that that you are really paying coverage on. So 6/70K would work for you. Call many, many dealers and ask for gold and see if you pay $50 ded, vs, $100 vs $0. Maybe you may find they cut a break on a certain deductible vs anyother that you can live with, also the money back guarantee - it may cost more but worth it if you don't use it. I never had a Subaru so can't say from experience if any warranty work is necessary - also depends on driving habits conditions, etc. But something to consider. With my VW I had her in the shop alot not because of my driving just she always required something. Others have no problems with them - I think mine leaked oil too much (which I read they have this issue) once my new mechanic changed the oil to synthetic and 0-5 (?) it had no more issues didn't need to change it for 7K miles. By then I had already bought the Subie though else I may have held out for a year more. to see if they changed the side view mirrors on the Legacy (what a strange thing to do - glad they changed it back for 2011).
2010 Forester 2.5x
Sage Green Metallic
Special Edition Package
Popular Equipment 1A
Auto Dim Mirror w/compass
All weather floor mats
MSRP = $23,593
Invoice = $22,104
Edmunds TMV = $22,293
My negotiated price w/destination was $21,445 ($659 below invoice)
Out the door with taxes & 5 year tags (DE) = $22,632
Two additional items included in the above price were full window tinting and pin stripe. I don't car much for the pinstripe but the window tinting sealed the deal as that would have costed me about $200 to do on my own.
Enjoy it!
It's funny I wasn't even considering a Subaru until 2 weeks ago. Had been only looking at CR-V, RAV-4 and Santa Fe. But when I found out that the Forester was the top pick on Consumer Reports I thought I would give it a look. And then to find out that it was the only in the class that could be realistically driven on the beach because of the high clearance that is what sold me on the vehicle. Can't wait to see my 3 year old's expression when daddy actually drives to the ocean.
Any tips on driving on the beach would be appreciated.
I think I will be in the Subaru family for a long time.
2010 Subaru Forester 2.5X Premium Auto
W/ all weather pkg
he has a "out the door"(no sales tax here in NH) of $22945.00
Of course the higher quote ones are emailing him with the "I can beat any price by $500" But their first quote was over $1000 higher.I told him they are just playing a game and go with the two lowest and see which dealer he likes the best.
I drove my '96 Outback on beaches several times (less ground clearance than the new Forester) and it did very well. In general, I would say to keep it moving when in dry, loose sand and, if you lose momentum and the wheels start to spin, stop immediately! If you keep gunning it, it is just going to be that much harder to get out.
Hahaha; speaking of that, there was a military kid who took his tricked out (lifted, big tires, big stereo, big ego) Ford diesel onto the beach.... while towing a 24' dual axle travel trailer! The truck would have easily been up to the task were it not for that lead weight, but as it is he just about buried it. Another pickup hooked on to him and together they were *barely* able to nudge it back to firm ground, but in the process he cut a corner on a dune and just about dropped that trailer onto a couple other vehicles parked nearby. The trailer was literally teetering on two wheels but whipped back down when he straightened out the truck. I swear, idiots always provide the best entertainment! :shades: