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MSRP: $23341
Invoice: $21946
Fitzmall: $21016
Becker: $21400
Overstock: $21210
All of these prices would be + tax (6%) and tags/fees ($215 total.) Anyone else getting better quotes in the PA/NJ/MD area? Searching around the web last night I saw that Wentworth Subaru in Oregon has this model with same options for $20409, so it seems there are some other unadvertised incentives. Since they are 3000 miles away, though, I don't plan to use them as a comparable in negotiations.
Edit: idea. Let me refer you there, I'll get $50 for it, and buy you lunch when you pick it up. LOL
So it's the best price, plus you get a free lunch while they PDI it. :shades:
Not only is the advertised price the lowest around, their doc fee is only $99, and their trade-in offers are fair as well (and negotiable). No hard sell in the F&I room either.
When I bought my outback from fitzmall, I met a guy who flew in from out of state to pick up his new car there.
The new 2011 engine isn't that much of an improvement, in my opinion.
It will only get you one extra 1 MPG due to the new design that has chain driven double overhead cam instead of belt driven single overhead cam. That means you reach max output at a lower RPM.
Chain driven cams may last longer but in general, they are more noisier than belt driven cams. And, if someting goes wrong, you will have to deal with 2 chains instead of one belt.
And I bet you will pay (again) a premium price for 2011 model as most dealers will call it "major" improvement as a sales pitch.
2) Does SOA use regular beacon credit scores or the auto enhanced one to determine Tier 1 financing?
Thanks.
Title&Tag was $240 (new plates).
This dealer matched the FitzMall/Fitzgerald Internet price with no problems. They had a rather healthy inventory of Foresters on the lot.
2011 Foresters are already either in transit from Japan or in U.S. East/West Coast ports awaiting various dealer's allocations.
Deflector is "stuck" to the rear gate even when I try to pull it off by force (double stick tape keeps holding it on) - unless there are other screws that hold it that I don't know about....
I read elsewhere that if I remove it there will be holes left in the roof that cannot be just covered with spoiler's existing plastic caps.
Anybody out there who has removed it?
Oh well, will have to live with it for now.....
Hopefully, future models will have an easier add on / removal of these spoilers...
If it would have been a dealer's installed option, the spoiler could be easily removed and put back in and drilled holes plugged.
By the way, the dealer referred me to a body shop, as most other dealers (good or bad) would do. The easiest right now would be to replace the rear metal gate skin if I would want to remove the spoiler.
In the meantime, I've talked with Subaru America tech support and basically the above is correct.
In my opinion it's an overkill anyway (more a cosmetic feature than anything else) because it does not really keep any dirt away from the rear window at speed that this car is designed to operate.
Oh well, will have to live with it...
Thanks
I'm sure there are some people who might get more off, but my wife and I were happy to pay about $1,400 below invoice. Especially since many of our friends are proud that they got the same amount off the MSRP.
I guess it also matters where the dealership is, how much inventory they have on hand, and how motivated they are to move cars.
Hope this info helps.
That's a very good price...
If Long beach, be aware of their service dept....
I could be wrong but that is the best price I've seen for that model + package on this forum. It's also the model my wife and I want too, do you mind sharing where you got this quote from?? I'm in nyc metro area. I'm also praying this is for an Automatic and not a manual !!!
Joe
Now that the official info has been released about the 2011s (new engine design, same 4-spd automatic, slightly better EPA rating) and they are on-order from the dealers, it looks like discounts of at least $1000 under invoice are very attainable on the 2010s.
There are pros and cons at either of these designs. When it comes to replace those, it will cost more to replace both than just one.
If anything, the chain means more reciprocating mass, so it would rev a smidge slower.
By the way they claim the MPG improves only by 1 ....on the new engine...
oh well...
The FT-86 is rumored to get 200hp from a 2.0l boxer, let's see if that's similar to this new DOHC engine, or what.
Hyundai did the same thing - 200hp from their base Sonata engine.
Subaru would be wise to bump their base 2.5l to 200hp.
BTW, is it still being called the EJ25?
The power (output) remains the same but the increased MPG is achieved because the max power (170 HP) arrives at lower RPM - 4100 (old one had that at 4400) ... that is what I was trying to say... also they get extra 4 pound-feet of torque (from 170 to 174 new)...
The new engine has increased bore (from 2457 to 2498) with a longer stroke - that means that they can still call it 2,5 liter... now that makes sense, right?
The new engine will only be available in 2011 regular models - 2011 XT turbo models will have the same power plant as 2010.
Not sure what the engine designator will be...
Dual AVCS.
146hp (yawn). Torque is up a little.
The 2.0l could go in the Impreza 2.0i, drop the 2.5i. Save the new 2.5l for the Outback Sport.
Everything is good so far except for some vibration when I started the engine.
There are not so many tire options for 16 inch wheels, and the factory bridgestone tires do not have good reputation according to tirerack.com.
I bought it when APR was 2.9% last week. I could have saved more if I bought this week with 1.9% APR. SIGH.....
I had no difficulty in getting one at that price, so I think you can buy one at lower price without much hassle.
I think it would have been better buying Premium trim with all weather package even though I don't use moonroof at all.
it is 24500 + TTL + 389 doc fee + 400 shipping
i asked them for 24000 shipped and am waiting for their response...
do you think this is a fair price?
dest
All weather floor mat
Luggage Cover
Rear bumper cover
Splash Guard
Vert Cargo Net
Auto Dim, Compass, Homelink
Puddle Lights
Interior illum kit (Blue)
Cargo Tray
Moon Roof deflector
I-Pod Tray
it came with the 7b, 4b options and the finaly price was 24295...+ 389 (exorbitant doc fee)...+ 400 shipping
i got this quote from colarado springs and i live in des moines...so had to get this shipped...
finally ..i got this for 25085 + TTL
there was not even a single delaer in and around des moines toeven come close to this price...the closest they came was 25900...
i got the color and this is my first subaru....
24569.85 (this is walk away price)
Thanks.
This late in the model year, I think you can do better - maybe even a lot better depending on where you want to buy.
Power seats and heated seats are an overkill, in my opinion, unless they come factory installed.
I personally like the "Rugged Package" which is somewhere around $600 (invoice) and includes a stack of handy features: wheel arch molding, side molding (protects from door dings), crossbars, mud deflectors, rear bumper protector (adds durability to the cargo area). However, I use my car for more than commuting and need that extra durability frequently.
Also, the rubber floor mats are nice if mud/snow is a frequent friend of your shoes - again, I go for the added protection and buy aftermarket floor liners from WeatherTech. If you use your cargo area much, a cargo tray (about $50 invoice) is a great addition. Aside from that, I could leave all the other options.
I think there is an iPod connection that many folks like to have.
Take a look at the edmunds.com page and build out your car with all the options you want. It will give you the MSRP and invoice. This late in the model year, you should pay invoice (max) on a 2010, as the 2011 models are just around the corner and this model is nearly a year-and-a-half old! Just for reference, I purchased a 2010 premium (manual, so subtract $1000) with PZEV, AWP, Rugged Package, and Cargo Tray for $23,310 in September 2009, which was $300 under invoice.
If you can't get a decent price in your local area, consider the option of a short drive. Fitzmall has dealerships along the East Coast that should give you a good idea on what you should expect to pay for the car.
I purchased mine in Seattle, which worked out to a 2,200 mile drive, and saved $2,500 off a local price after arriving home.
2010 Forester 2.5X Premium PZEV with All Weather Package and Pop Equip Pkg 1A
MSRP: $25641
Invoice: $24038
Price: $22738 (+ tax + $175.65 in total tags/doc fees)
I know these are leftovers at this point, but the inventories do seem to be dwindling quickly. Wanted to act now while I could get the color we wanted. Pick it up tomorrow.
I bought my 2010 Forester XT Premium package back in June in Pensacola, FL after an extensive search up to 1000 miles driving radius for the turbo version (need that extra power for my frequent trips to high altitude drives in Colorado and High Sierras).
Unfortunately, there were not that many turbos around. Actually, I only found one and even that was a dealer-traded car. Had to take it with what was on it - factory installed options. Just got some extras such as mud flaps, rubber floor mats and cargo tray.
What I miss (that I had on my 2005 previously owned Forester) are the heated outside rear view mirrors. I am now trying to figure out, if my Forester is pre-wired for that option and if I could just plug in heated mirrors (glass) along with control switch on the dash board.
I have somehow a vague ongoing conversation with SOA tech. support about this issue. They are not very helpful when somebody wants to add stuff to cars because they consider that modification and that is normally done by dealers.
I like to do it myself as I have done it on my 2005 Forester in the past.
I've paid 500 over invoice at that time.
I went in for my first 3,000 service and looked at the brochure at the dealer detailing their 7,500 and higher services. One thing they include on all services from 7,500
and up is "BG MOA with Engine Protection"
Do I really need this since I plan on using Mobil 1 synthetic oil? Can I opt out of it if I choose to get service at the Subaru dealer?
Regards,
Craig
jogousa - Whether they were telling the truth or not, I don't know, but the story I was told by several service managers (two here in Alaska and one in Seattle), is that the non-AWP cars are not pre-wired for the heating coils - which includes mirrors, windshield, and seats, and that is why the package is only offered as a factory option.
Don't let that dissuade you from pursuing it; I just wanted to relay the info I received.