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Well, I found Van Bortel and they are 8-10 hours away from me. I have learned New York is a very large state, and they are clear across the state from Long Island. A
Actually, you can't get too much further from me and still be in NY State. But it is good to have them as a reference point. Perhaps I can call them, they may give a quote on the phone.
Anyway, thank you for the info...
Here is a problem, all ideas/ comments from all you Subies requested...
I have a down payment on the above (overpriced) LL Bean Forester.
What is the legality/ feasibility of backing out of the deal? I have several thousand dollar check written on Saturday, I dated it Mon 2/28, the day the promotion was over...
Is it too late to renegotiate the price?
By the way, is the promotion renewed for March?
Thanks in advance for any advice.
I was wondering about options and aftermarket stuff...
Anyone have ideas on whether or not the Rear Bumper Cover is a worthwhile add-on? and is it worth the dealer price or should I buy one afterward and install myself?
ditto on the Brush Guard and Rear Differential Protector?
I see them at good prices at 1st subaru and allsubaru.com I wonder if they are good deals or too much hassle for the bebnefits gained?
Thanks
Rx
In a nutshell I paid $24,024 rebate included, excluding tax, tag, title. That price included the following extras:
wheel locks
cargo tray
custom tailpipe cover
auto dim mirror/homelink
Popular equip. group 3a (armrest extension,rear net)
amplifier/subwoofer
Total MSRP was $27,660, destination included.
I have driven in the rain several times with my Bean and it handles great! I have also used the seatwarmers which is a nice treat for the morning commute. I haven't missed my stick-shift since driving the Bean. This is my first, brand new car! No regrets
I'm getting the windows tinted today and picking up a rear bumper cover.
IMO the "brush guard" is purely cosmetic and looks silly but then I think that everytime I see a brush guard on any SUV in an urban/sububan setting.
The rear diffy protector might come in handy if you'll be going any futher off-road than where a gravel road will take you.
If you include the optional equipment as part of the total vehicle price, you can usually get invoice price on most options and if so, that will be your best deal.
-Frank
Thanks for your opinions.
Go for the bargain, the changes seem minor.
-juice
I would love to buy one for under $25K.
Jim
$27k is probably the MSRP for the Forester LL Bean, loaded up. Subtract rebates and go to invoice-level prices and you might get to $22.5k I guess.
-juice
$20,231.15 (including rebate) for a manual tranny 2005 Forester X pretty much loaded: premium speakers, tweeters, subwoofer/amplifier, cd changer, differential protector, armrest extension, crossbars, side cargo nets, tow hitch, all-weather mats, and cargo tray.
I feel like this is a good quote, provided they treat me right on my trade. Am I correct?
-Frank
-juice
I'd been researching for about a month and was pretty much set on the Forester, then fell in love after the test drive this morning. I'm in Maryland and went to Herb Gordon Subaru. They were definitely willing to work with me - especially on my trade in ('01 Sunfire).
I'm loving the car - it's so fun to drive. Almost hoping for one last snowfall before Spring to try out the AWD!
Many buyers today (myself included), worry about getting the best deal possible and therefore have a tendency to try and squeeze every last possible dollar out of the dealer, sometimes to the point of obsession. Unfortunately, you can quickly reach the point of diminishing returns where the time spent worrying and negotiating isn’t worth the potential few extra dollars you might save. So if this dealership has treated you fairly and bargained in good faith, I would recommend you accept his offer and sleep well knowing you got a great deal.
-Frank
-Frank
-Frank
adnil: your price is also fine.
I cross shopped fitzmall.com (Rockville and Gaithersburg) and they quote $18,485, add $99 processing, $70 for tags, and then 5% tax and I get to $19,586.
You're doing almost $300 better, so go for it.
-juice
John
The Forester is one of those rare cars I just can't find anything negative about - everybody seems to love theirs!
Good to know about the climate control being problematic. I would like 4 wheel disc brakes and heated seats, but I'm not sure it's worth another $1800 over the X model.
Wait til you see the slotted "umbrella" storage in the back. Works great for a 24" chain pipe wrench that doesn't fit in my tool box.
Last tank of gas 28.4 mpg.
John
-juice
I didn't want the package either at the time, but I have greatly enjoyed the heated seats so it was money well spent IMO. Resale value should be $500 to $1,000 more for the XS.
John
-Frank
-juice
Looks like the incentive will expire at the end of this month(March). Does anyone know if it will be offered again in April?
Also, our insurance company gave us a quote of $20 per year discount if we include the anti-theft system in it. I certainly hope it doesn't mean that the Forester gets stolen often, does it? If I want that option, can the dealer install it or does a dealer have to locate a vehicle with that option installed?
-Larry
I am about to purchase a manual 2005 XT premium.
Will you please provide the NAME of the dealership and the CITY in NJ where they are located?
I think so far you quote in Jan for $23, 499 (including the rebate) is one I want to look into.
Please, please reply. Thanks a million.
Saq
Also, if anyone else has found similar rates, I would sure be interested in know the dealership NAME and the City, state where it's located.
Thank you!
$20 per year isn't much of a discount but fitting since Subarus are one of the least stolen brands. Yes the dealer can install the anti-theft system but will probably want to charge you and arm & leg for it. Others have suggested that you can get a better after-market system installed for less.
-Frank
The problem will be selection, however. If you are picky about color, I'd hurry.
-juice
any engine upgrades?
Thanks to all who replied on this thread!
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Of note, base engines get 173hp, turbos 230hp, and they changed the center console and added turn signals in the side mirrors. Plus the cosmetic stuff, and about a 1/2" lift in the suspension.
-juice
Happy Driving!
Girlwhogolfs
All in all, it was a good experience. Did my bargaining through email and calls. About a weeks worth of back and forth. Sour taste was when they made me fill out a credit application even though I was not applying for credit. Because "they wanted to make sure they could take a cheque from me"
I know that was a lie and feel I should have walked out at that point...but I didn't! Next time, I'll know better! (Each time I go through a dealer experience, I learn some more!)
This will also affect my rating on the customer sat survey, I'll tell you that!
This forum helped me a lot to see what is a fair price to negotiate. Thanks to you all!
-juice
Includes:
Security System
Auto Dimming Mirror/Compass
Cargo Tray
Rear Bumber Cover
I managed to get the Subie dealer down to $22,995 for an XS LLBean with options-- the same options as girlwhogolfs---we're supposed to sign papers tomorrow. I tallied the options with the car price, cash-back, and destination charge and the price seems to cut a little into the dealer holdback. Should we go thru with it? Of course I'm getting the "buy by the end of the month" speech. I'm assuming that the cashback will be extended again and that this is a deal I will still be able to get after the 1st. Problem is, I'm a little gun-shy. What do you all think?
Holdback is, what, 2%? That's not enough to cover their costs, I think. They'll probably eat a small loss and try to make it up on service or something.
Go for it, deal sounds great.
-juice
when I see the phoney credit application being pushed in front of me and know the paint sealer / gap insurance / seat sealer coming on, I simply tell them that if they want a good grade on the customer service report then skip all the bullcrap and get me the keys as soon as possible.
it works!
One other issue--- with the LL Bean ---you're supposed to get a "security system" . No such thing on our car. Only keyless entry. Do they consider that to be a "security system" ? Help!