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2013 and earlier-Subaru Impreza and Impreza WRX STI Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    They should be there already. I've seen a few.

    tom
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    I'd be cautious about any STi like that one and make sure you get a carfax. I had one dealer try to sell me a 'demo' but it turns out it had an engine block failure and was replaced. What did the dealer tell me? "It needed a new fan belt." :mad:

    It had been sold to someone and when the block failed I guess the dealer or Subaru took the car back, replaced the block, and was selling it as a demo. I guess that would be the equivalent of 'refurbished'. :D

    I think finding an '08 will be difficult but there are probably still a few out there but you might have to drive a ways.

    tom
  • jsylvestrejsylvestre Member Posts: 8
    the dealers in my area do have 09' rex's however there not yet carrying the sti's. or they want to sell off there leftovers first. hmmm
  • sandyk123sandyk123 Member Posts: 1
    Hi, I'm looking at an 08 Impreza 2.5i automatic with premium package, 4 door, with ipod adapter, arm rest, and mirror with homelink for $17,750. I've contact 3 other dealers that tell me they can't matche the price. Is this a good deal?

    Sandy
  • bikepoetbikepoet Member Posts: 4
    I just returned home from Massachusetts with an 8LX.

    Options included:

    Gold BBS / Fog lights
    Locking Lugnuts
    All-Weather Floormats
    Cargo Net

    I paid $29997 financed 0% / 63mo. MSRP was $37808 I think.

    I signed the papers on Dec 29 and picked up the car Friday, Jan 2, 2009.

    I love it. Thanks for everyone's information.
  • walletclanwalletclan Member Posts: 2
    That's a great deal. I really want to get an STi, but don't want to shell out over 30K. My father purchased the first gen STi and had some work done to it. That sucker was scary fast. It was also a lot leaner and meaner.

    Thanks for letting us know what you paid. Enjoy

    PS. What color?
  • shyam423shyam423 Member Posts: 2
    Just bought a 2009 Impreza 2.5i/Premium 4 door automatic for 18000 + 199 doc. THis includes a 1997 ford escort (107500 miles) trade in. KBB trade in value was listed at $750. So I would like to think I got it for $19000 OTD. The dealer threw in free oil change for 3 years (total 6 changes). I also got 3.9 % financing. May be I could have got a few hundred dollars off, but didn't want to haggle too much. Live and let live is my motto.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Usually OTD includes tax, title and license. If so, that's a nice deal.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Dealers offer a whole sale trade, so that Escort probably was valued lower than that. They give you a little less than they think they could get at auction, so I bet it's more like $300-400.

    That means the Impreza was an even better deal than you thought.
  • shyam423shyam423 Member Posts: 2
    You may be right. On my first visit to the dealer he asked me if I'm trading in anything. When I showed him my car he had it appraised and came back with a $300 offer. The Escort needed new tires, windshield, a heallight and timing belt. It also had 2 body work done on it, one of which was badly done which caused the paint to peel off in a few places resuting in minor rust. I never had the engine tuned on that little sucker, but it still ran like a champ, and I live in the snow belt. So I must have got a good deal on the Impreza. Even otherwise I'm ok because I got a great new car.
  • speedracer9728speedracer9728 Member Posts: 1
    What is a good price for one that has a sticker of $36,508? I'm located in San Antonio.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Drove an 09 WRX today. Hmmm. Nice car. Power was good, seating comfy, clutch a bit touchy. Not sure I could stand driving it daily but I assume about 2k off sticker is a decent price on one?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Sounds about right - invoice or so even for the new 2009s.

    You can get a price referenc at fitzmall.com, a no-haggle dealer in the Mid-Atlantic. As your local dealer to match or beat their price if you're not close enough.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    In San Diego. Dealer really wants my Cooper S. They came out with high KBB on trade-in for it.

    Not sure I really want their car though.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,175
    What's the MSRP on the WRX, and what's the delta between the two?

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    MSRP of 26k. Figure 24k might be possible. Why?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,175
    Just curious on how much you've got to spend to "upgrade" to the WRX..

    Other than gaining a backseat, just wondering if you'll like it.. When your foot isn't in it, you'll be driving an economy car (okay, that won't be often..)

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    That's why I said I'm not sold on on the WRX. I'm going to beat on another one this week. This time I'll drive it normal - my version of normal which appears really hard to most drivers.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,175
    I know you are looking for something with easier access to the back seat.... but, I think you'll miss the MINI, if you go for a WRX...

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  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    I will miss the Mini no matter what. Little choice. The "bundle of joy" pretty much demands something with rear seat access. I know I can get by for 10-11 months more but my wife would like it if we had two cars that could be used for family outings.

    The Rex will never be a Mini but sometimes you gotta take what'll work.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    You also gain AWD, but I think the 2009 comes with summer tires so don't use that as too much of a selling point.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    I live in San Diego - AWD is about as useful here as storm windows on a house.

    Juice, maybe you can clarify something - the Suby sales guy told me the WRX is FWD-biased until there is slip. I know the STI is RWD biased and I thought all over Subys are 50/50, Scary thing - the guy said he used to be a service advisor for them and just became a salesperson.
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Manual tranny Subies, except the STI, are 50/50 in terms of front/rear power split. The STI has a default, which can be changed by the driver, of 41/59 I believe. The 4EAT equipped Subies have a FWD-biased AWD.

    Bob
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    This was a manual. Weird that SA wouldn't know that...
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,175
    He probably sells a lot of automatics.. ;)

    Only the sticks have the 50/50 split..

    I have to say, that the handling part of the AWD system surprised me (in a good way).. Unfortunately, my Impreza has crappy tires and a not that great suspension... But, the steering/power inputs are pretty darn good!

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, he probably sells more automatic Imprezas.

    Most WRXs are manuals, though, so he should have known better.

    It's 50/50 by default, and a fluid-filled viscous coupling will lock up temporarily when the front and rear axles spin at different rates.

    My 98 Forester had that system. It *definitely* does not feel like FWD, not at all. In fact more people complain that they are tail happy, vs. a FWD feel, or torque steer, or any FWD related traits.

    Gun it in the snow, and the tail will slip out, the VC acts and shifts power to the front wheels, which pulls you out of the skid. Stay on the gas, and if you're good, you can get the tail to wag in the other direction, as power cycles back to the rear axle.

    Let's just say I had a LOT of fun in the snow with my Forester.

    Another thing you'll notice - the tires wear more evenly. Usually the fronts wear a lot faster.
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    Actually Juice, for '09 all WRXs are manuals. If you want an Auto you have to get a GT.

    And Yes, Subarus are fun in the snow. And Dirt. And rain. And Sun. :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    That's right, they changed the model name.
  • ScarrenScarren Member Posts: 2
    I got quoted $20,515 + Tax + DMV. Is this worth pursuing? Appreciate your input.

    Thanks
  • stoopystoopy Member Posts: 105
    I got quoted $20,515 + Tax + DMV. Is this worth pursuing?

    For what? What model/trim? What was MSRP?
  • ScarrenScarren Member Posts: 2
    Sorry about that - had included the information in the title.

    This is for 2009 2.5i 5dr Auto Premium (Impreza). MSRP was $21,903.

    Thanks
  • subysubsubysub Member Posts: 6
    Doesn't sound that great.

    I read an article about Subaru saying that they are the sole car manufacturer not to post a loss for 08', this was bad news for me as I thought like every other car company they might start offering discounts.

    Sounds like they are not budging with the 09 Premiuim 2.5i 5 dr but I have seen a significanct number of 08 Imprezas in dealer inventory.

    Anyone purchase an 08 for a great price this month?
  • indianajohnsindianajohns Member Posts: 89
    I agree, not that great. It's less than $20 under invoice. I've been getting email quotes for '09 Impreza 5 dr Premium and Base both at $400 under invoice plus $500 lease cash. $900 total under invoice. One of my local dealers has 60 Imprezas. I decided to go with the Legacy for about the same money though.
  • niwinniwin Member Posts: 1
    I've been getting e-mail quotes for 2009 2.5i 5dr Auto Premium's for $19,699. MSRP $22,047. That appears to be pretty good to me already, but what do I know... how does this quote sound to you guys?
  • indianajohnsindianajohns Member Posts: 89
    It's a pretty good price. About $900 under invoice including the $500 rebate.

    My only complaint on the Impreza is you can get a bigger/better Legacy Special Edition for almost the exact same price. I do REALLY like the looks of the Impreza 5 door but the Legacy is just way more car for the same money. The Special Edition Legacy's have an automatic sticker adjustment that subtracts $1750 off MSRP. I got a quote on a Legacy SE, original MSRP was $24,540, adjusted to $22,790, sale price is $19,625. You can't beat those standard features on a car that sells for well under $20K.
  • bikepoetbikepoet Member Posts: 4
    Sorry for the late reply.

    It's a World Rally Blue Mica. I was happy to get that since Edmund's true market value had WRB as +$100 while the red was -$67. Seems like the other colors were around +/- $0-$10.

    I babied it during break-in, and now that's over... and wow... I'm impressed. As a guy with autocross and track experience, I enjoy having the goodies like SI-drive and DCCD that the 265hp 2009 WRX doesn't have. I used the higher hp WRX to my advantage in my negotiations saying "you're going to have a hard time selling 08 STI's sitting next to that 09 WRX"; however, the dealer in MA came out with a great price out the door and I didn't negotiate any.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    I flogged it hard - at the behest of the salesman - and he took me on some great roads. Wow. Impressed on this drive. I still think a 3 has a bit more smoothness but for fun and utility that 09 WRX seems like a great deal.

    Anyone know the residuals/money factor on 09 WRX leases?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    car man will chime in soon.

    How do you think it compares to a 1 series? Even the 1 is in a higher price class (or two).
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I would definitely expect more controversy on the harder-edged car, no surprise there.

    I'm sure I'd like the way the 1 series drove but I just think it looks awkward, dorky even. It's too short and stubby.

    The convertible looks a bit better but doesn't have a real back seat, so I'd pick a roadster over one of those anyway.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Different tasks. If I didn't have an infant son the 1 would be my choice. As long as the little man can't buckle himself in, I'm stuck with a 4/5 door. The WRX can certainly get the job done - good power, AWD pulls through nicely and overall it was a pretty good car for 24k. Great space, good backseat, nice hatch space.

    Still I wouldn't want to pay more than about $350 a month for it on a lease ($0 down). My wife actually told me last night that she'd prefer no on the WRX as it lacks dark leather or leatherette. But she said I can get it if I want, she just thinks the cloth is gonna get torn/stained/abused in ways leather will survive.

    My one big gripe with the WRX would be the archaic 5 speed and lack of a freeway cruising gear. Otherwise, it seemed like a fine car for day to day use. Nothing fancy but certainly fun enough to get me by until the little one is in a booster seat.

    Her vote is still firmly in the 3 series camp. The new BMW incentives will probably appear tomorrow or Friday, so I may decide this weekend.
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    You can always have aftermarket leather put in if it's a big deal- some aftermarket leather companies are much nicer than the OEM at about the same cost.

    I haven't driven the 5 spd on the new WRX but I'm sure it's fine. If you don't like the feel you could always get a short shifter which improves the 'crispness' of the shifter. BMWs in my experience have had kinda rubbery shifters so I would say it's a wash between the 2 cars.

    I have the 6spd in my STi and it's just extra work as a daily driver because there are more gears! ;)

    It's an interesting comparison you have- they're totally different cars, in totally different price ranges as well. The BMW can be double if you buy an optioned 335i. If you stick with the 328i it's less, but then again, it's a lot less performance.

    Good luck, 2 great cars.

    tom
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    tsy,

    I already figured out the wrx with the short shifter. lol As soon as I drove it I thought - "need that short shifter kit".
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,175
    My Impreza 2.5i has the STi short shift kit.. port installed option.. It's the first thing I noticed on the test drive... Nice!

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Yeah, the new Mazda 3s makes a 6 speed standard, so should Subaru on that sporty model.

    Keep in mind 6 ratios does not necessarily mean you get taller gearing - the 6 speed Miata actually revs higher at highway speeds than the 5 speed.

    For 2009 they made it taller but it is *still* shorter overall than 5th on the 5MT.
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Yeah, Mazda is - in my eyes - the worst when it comes to gearing cars. The MS6 needed a shift to 3rd to reach 60 but you couldn't get a freeway cruising gear in 6th. I think the last MS3 I drove was just like that. Miatas have had bad gear ratios for years...

    VW does something similar with their manuals. I don't get why they refuse to give us exceptionally tall 6th (or 5th gears). We're manual drivers...we want to shift for more power. I used to love going from 6th to 4th in my 330i. Need to pass at 80, well downshift and blip the throttle...boom all the torque is ready.
  • bergaminibergamini Member Posts: 45
    From a dealer in Evanston, IL (I'm in Madison, WI):

    MSRP: $18,190

    Sales Price: $16,329

    Auto Show Discount: ($250)

    Doc Fees: $151

    I'm not going to include taxes as YMMV depending upon state, etc. So, the before tax/fee price is $16,079 and the before tax price is $16,230 which I feel is incredibly fair and I made a deposit and commitment to purchase. They were going to give me 5DR for $500 more but I'm not sure...others have thoughts on that?
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Member Posts: 6,249
    Consider the utility of the 5 door. We love our A3 hatch and part of the Impreza's appeal is that hatch with even more space!
  • tsytsy Member Posts: 1,551
    I agree, the hatchback is quite useful- that being said, if all this is is a daily commuter it might not be worth the extra $500. But if you have kids or carry large boxes than it's definitely worth it.

    That's a good deal- recently priced one out for a friend here and it was $16600.

    Hope you like your new Subie!

    tom
  • bergaminibergamini Member Posts: 45
    I got my desired car for what I think is a great price. I was looking at the Honda Fit (base model) and it was less than $1K off of this price and the Sport model was higher, both in MT, so this feels just like a fantastic deal for a much better, bigger, safer, versatile and nicer car, comparatively.

    2009 Subaru Impreza 2.5i 5-Door Hatchback
    9LA

    MSRP $18,690
    Invoice $17,893

    Selling Price $17,195
    Rebate $1,000
    Grand Total $16,195
    Document Fee $151.65
    Temp License $40
    Grand Total $16,386.65
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