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Now looking in NY state for my Outback2.5Ltd
This is for an Outback XT/VDC/Nav:
Manual- 36 mths = $465 + city tax
39 mths = $455 + city tax
Automatic- add $20 to @ of the payments above
36 mth= .53 residual and .00170 MF
39 mth= .51 residual and .00170 MF
Anyone have anything positive to say about the process??
All in all, unless you want to help with the guys boat payment or send his kid to college, forget it, You are better off spending that money on a mechanical extended warranty.
MSRP was $25801 including the $625 transport fee.
Offered price: $22903 before rebate (included $500 discount for being a 2007)
Rebate: ($1500)
Price with rebate: $21,403
Trade-in (1997 Outback Sport with 112k miles): ($2700)
Documentation fee: $354 (this was high compared to other quotes)
Mass. Tax: $935.15
Registration: $65
Take home price:$20,057.15.
We also qualified for 1.9% financing over 24 months.
Just for comparison, we had a take home price quote of $20,352.75 for a 2008 2.5i with no extras (MSRP of $25,440). We liked the color (Newport Blue with ivory interior for our yellow dog ) of the available 2007 better, otherwise I think the 2008's are a better deal.
The process was straightforward, honest, and actually pleasant! No high-sales pressure tactics. I highly recommend the dealer (Long Subaru in Webster, MA) and highly recommend getting quotes from multiple dealers through the internet.
MSRP $28,616
36 months
12k / year
$0 Down payment
Teir 1 credit
Michigan dealership
Nothing has been negotiated as of yet. Only inital salesperson contact and test drive complete. Competition should be a factor; similar vehicles exist in inventory at 3 local dealers.
I've surmised from other postings that there is $1,000 incentive on the vehicle and quite a bit (approx. $1,900) of differential between Invoice and sticker. Money rates seem to hover around 0.0019 and residual of 58%. But I really don't know if any of this accurate, that's the reason for the post.
Thanks for your consideration.
Van Bortel has the "build" option, their internet person responded to say he's sellingl tons to Canadian, does not charge NY State tax.
I was also looking at Mi dealers and was put off by the MI state sales taxes.
So what I'm asking is -
Is a money factor of 0.0019 accurate? Is MSRP for this vehicle really $1,900 over invoice? Is 'Invoice' a low enough price to pay? What are others being quoted or actually paying?
Thanks again.
What do others think? Experiences?
Thanks.
You should be able to get $4000 under MSRP including the rebate. I just purchased an '08 3.0 LL Bean w/ Nav over the Thanksgiving weekend for $4400 under MSRP. Initially the dealer and I agreed on a $4k discount over the e-mail. I haggled more in-person and I got a free factory hitch (installed) in addition to the $4k discount. The hitch (installed) has an MSRP of $400. I also received an internet quote from another dealer for $4200 off MSRP for the same car, although they didn't have the color of choice that I wanted. My deal is also finance-free. Good luck on your XT purchase.
is not that far either. I saw some negative experience posts about
Flatirons and positive references to Valley Subaru.
If I could help it, I would like to buy it either @ Flatirons or Valley.
Want to hear recent Flatirons or Valley buying experience.
Will the incentives and rebates on Subaru get any better ? They had
much better incentives & rebates last year.
Thanks,
MG
They also gave me a good trade on my '05 Outback. G.M's name is Bob Taylor.
They did? I bought a Subaru last year and my memory tells me exactly the opposite. This time last year, rebate was $750... this year? Double that and 2.9% financing.
As for Valley Subaru, I have had mixed results. I tried to get quotes from them, and they would email me daily with different pricing, but never give me everything I needed as far as a complete selling price, residual, mf, etc. on a lease.
Then, after sending email saying (the cliche) "sell regardelss of profit", I wrote back and said 'let's talk'. Heard nothing. May call the Sales manager mentioned above as I too have heaard good things about Valley.
GO on the other hand, was also quite aggressive at first but I've found GO to be just like all the other dealers: They do NOT want to talk numbers other than your monthly. I don't like dealing with people like that.
I don't know if it will help but you can tell him you got his name from Larry in New Mexico. By the way... I love the car !
Valley vs. Flatirons. It's interesting because when I was looking for an Outback Limited in the Denver area, I contacted EVERY dealership first through Edmunds "Get Dealer Quotes" and through subaru.com.
I wanted the best deal, as I had no loyalty to anyone.
From that experience, Valley Subaru in Longmont, was the clear-cut winner. Specifically their internet sales manager, was the first to respond, the first to provide ACCURATE and the LOWEST pricing, and ultimately where I purchased the vehicle EXACTLY as discussed before I went to the the showroom. There were no surprises, no hidden nothing. While other dealers were sending me redundant e-mails about what model and color I wanted - Valley gave me pricing including tax. I paid exactly what they told me before I came - and it was the lowest of all the dealers on the front range.
I really thought Flatirons was going to be the winner... but they honestly weren't even in the ballpark... poor response and their pricing was significantly higher than Valley. In fact, I had called the Sales Manager @ Flatirons to convey my disappointment - he apologized, but offered to do nothing.
Hope this information helps. I write this because my history with purchasing used to be horrible... I used to get so emotionally attached to a vehicle, that I would "give in"... now I know better - and the internet makes the process VERY simple. Good luck - share your decision w/ this forum.
GO Subaru on the other hand was horrible... I gave them the exact same specifications as I gave Valley... GO Subaru kept coming back with "what model, color and options do you want". It was horrible.... 2 months after I made the purchase from Valley, I was still getting e-mails from Go Subaru, after numerous responses that said I was done w/ the buying process. When I finally got pricing, it was signficantly higher than Valley (apples to apples).
Here is what the dealer is telling me for 3-year/ 36,000 miles lease:
$20,777 - price after $1,500 rebate
56% - residual value
0.0017 - money factor
$279 - monthly payment
My questions are:
1. Are residual value and money factor relatively fair for this lease?
2. My calculations of monthly payment give me
(20777-0.56*20777)/36. = 253.94
(20777+0.56*20777)*0.0017=55.10
Total payment = $308.04,
which is $29 more than he is telling me.
Why is he is undercharging me? And the price of 20,777 for basic with auto transmission is ynder invoice, isn't it?
So where is the catch? Are they getting a huge dealer rebate or something?
I would appreciate if carman explain this situation to me.
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Outback 2.5 i limited w/VDC and PZEV option = 24,200
We are in the Boston area, if that matters. Planning to buy by end of month.
Thanks!!!
Now the monthly payment number becomes closer: $291, though it is still bigger than the quoted one: $279.
Do the lease parameters look correct for 3-years/36000 miles lease:
Residual value: 56%
money factor: 0.0017
?
Thanks in advance.
No, it is exactly invoice. Invoice on the Basic Auto, with no options, is $22,277, so subtract $1500 rebate and you are at $20,777, which is still invoice.
Outback 2.5 i limited w/VDC and PZEV option = 24,200
We are in the Boston area, if that matters. Planning to buy by end of month.
(bump) - anyone???
The other no-haggle dealer I'm familiar with is Van Bortel, in NY. They should have them.
Price one and see how it compares to your deal, even ask your dealer to match their price, perhaps.
I've been quoted $26,500 on Long Island AFTER the $1250 incentive was applied to a 2008 2.5i Limited w/VDC and PZEV and a couple of options (mirror, armrest, mats).
I think I can get them down to $25,500 at least, but seeing someone with a $24,200 quote in the Northeast makes me rethink my goal.
You can do better in NYC. I am currently looking too. Many dealers quoted me much higher but two jersey dealers are quoting me under 25K. One is at 24.6 and change plus 264 doc fee. contact me at risprasa@gmail.com if you want to talk in further detail.
This is in Boston, 2008, 2.5i Automatic, Limited, VDC and PZEV. No additional options (this already has so much more than I've ever had before!!!).
Sounds like this one is the taker!
Oh, and to the person in NYC/NJ, I got my Forester no-haggle through a dealer in Englewood NJ when I lived in Montclair. We wanted a (then new) 03 XS Manual and no one had it, he located it and gave us the best price. A little hiccup on the trade in value but when I showed him the printouts from this site on its value he gave me the $$. I'd recommend emailing them since they are close to NYC.
Thanks all, now I need to convince DH!!
M
The dealer where I purchased my 3.0R LL Bean is Larry Miller in Boise. Based on first e-mail response they weren't the lowest in price. I told them another dealer in Utah was offering $4200 off of MSRP. And they responded with a $4000 off. Good luck on your purchase.
The best I got in the NY/NJ area is 24,550.
5% tax, 274 for new plates or 253 for transfer plates.
No other charges
Really, not bad. Especially given the weather we're having (2 hours to go 6 miles this afternoon, bleh!).
On 3.0R LL Bean,
1. What kind of mileage are you getting ? 17/24 is not quite
good for a midsize wagon
2. How is the noise level ? Is it quite ? I need to
install a Bluetooth Handsfree car kit.
3. Navigation: Is it good ? I think it does not have
text to voice capability.
Thanks and I appreciate any responses.
---M
Also, does anybody know where I can get Added Security at invoice price?
Thank!
http://www.moyersubaru.com/
Make sure to ask if the rental history makes it non-eligible for the factory warranty, though.
I’m against buying extended warranties, for most things, with few exceptions. So I called the salesman to ask what he knew about this certificate. He said it probably was “a gift” because Subaru does things like that. (It sounds like a load of bull to me.) He then said if I brought it by the showroom, he'd be able to tell me for sure. So I stopped by there yesterday, showed it to him and he then told me it was indeed a freebie. Not being totally convinced of this, I asked if everyone who buys a new Outback gets this and he replied, “Yes.” I then asked why it shows exactly what I paid, including tax and he said, “They have to document it.” What's also odd, and I told the guy, is that he never once mentioned this while I was trying to decide, whether or not to by the car. If what he's saying is true, it would be an incredible sales tool. He didn't really have an answer for that one. I suppose anything is possible and if this really is at no additional charge, then fine. But I want to be absolutely certain that there wasn’t a “hidden charge,” somewhere, when I bought the car. Furthermore, I do very little driving nowadays and usually put less than 5,000 miles, per year, on the car. So it’s highly unlikely I would ever benefit from the additional 9,000 miles. Unless it truly is thrown in at "no additional charge," I want the money refunded.
I'm hoping some of you other owners, of new Outbacks, can shed some light on this. Did any of you receive this “Added Security” certificate, in the mail, without knowingly paying for the extra coverage? I just received the Subaru “Purchase Experience Survey” and the salesman/dealership keep bothering me to fill it out, give them “high marks” and to then return the survey immediately. But before I do, I want to know beyond any doubt, that I'm not being sold a bill of goods. I would greatly appreciate some feedback ASAP. Thanks.
Call 800-SUBARU3 and ask if indeed your warranty is registered with them.
If not, it's probably a dealer-only package and probably isn't worth much.