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Yes, I suppose it probably is. Makes you wonder why the companies do this. Are they just trying to drag it out, making you feel for a while that they care about your issue and hoping that as time passes, you will get frustrated and just drop the issue altogether?
This would be a good thread in one of the more 'general' sections here on Edmunds. I wonder if it has been covered already...
In my heart of hearts, though, I really wish I'd gotten the EX with the leather package and sliding doors... I probably still could've gotten a good deal.
Only option is roof rails.
The negotiated price was 19,999$ and I paid 20,217$ total.(cash deal, no trade in).
Color is Silver.
I bought it from Portland, Oregon.
As soon as I bought it, I drove it from Portland to Corvallis.
Roughly estimated freeway mileage is 25 or 26 mi per gallon.
I'm totally satisfied with this vechile
and I waxed it today.
And how often do I have to do waxing on my new car?
Sticker $25400 (from memory, might be off by a few hundred $ +/-)
Current incentives, $2000 cash to customer if financed through Kia.
Dealer has 67 2007 Sedona's on the lot, and 2 exactly like the one listed above.
Any thoughts on how low they could go? TMV shows $24240 before incentives. Looking at historical prices paid in this formun it seems like many pay well below TMV. I know TMV is an average. Thanks for any help.
On a $25k MSRP 2007 Sedona LX -- this is last year's (2007) model and the less appealing of the 2 trim levels (LX vs. EX). I'd be expecting to get at least $2-3k off MSRP before incentives.
This dealership just had an ad pushing the base model 2007 sedona for $16500. I calculated this to be about 15% under dealer listed invoice on Edmunds. So I'm going to take the same approach and take 15% off the invoice of the LX and subtract incentives and start there. That puts it at $17900.
Personally, I once flew to Maryland to buy a vehicle and drove it back to Michigan.
I went to negotiate last night for the 2007 LX (power doors, roof rails, cross bars). I typed up my offer of 17,900 and handed it to the sales guys when I walked in. This was based on 2400 of incentives (2000 cash, and 400 new graduate) and 15% off of invoice based on an ad they were running that was about 15% below invoice for the base Sedona. Then I told him I wanted to trade and I handed him a printout from KBB of the trade in value and dealer retail, note there was over a $2000 difference.
I went through 3 people, the sales guy, the sales manager, then the finance guy. They each tried different ways of moving the numbers around and increasing and decreasing my trade in. One tried to tell me that they only have 6 2007 Sedonas when the sales guy had shown me 2 days before that they have so many he couldn’t find the other one he was looking for and according to their website they have over 60 2007 Sedonas and they are already getting in the 2008 models. The finance wanted to know why I thought I was better than everyone else because “you don’t want to pay taxes”. I kindly informed him that when I ask for a price that includes tax tag and title, it doesn’t mean I don’t want to pay taxes, we went back and forth on that for about 5 min. That must work with some people. Also, the finance guy tried to fool me into thinking he got below my asking price by subtracting my trade from the price they were asking for the van.
The short of it is that I received 2 counter offers. The first was for $2400 off of MSRP which I quickly rejected. The next offer was 20999 before tax. Technically I got a 3rd offer when they added $500 to my trade in. They told me that they could not go any lower and that they would lose thousands on this deal, so I never offered to increase my price. I had a limit that wasn’t much above what I originally asked, and I knew going in that it would be a tough sell. When they realized that they weren’t going to make any money or a sale they became downright rude. The whole process took about an hour.
There ARE Kia dealers out there that will treat you with courtesy and respect -- and not treat you like you are a moron and/or a thief. Keep looking!
Good luck finding a good deal on the Sedona you want.
Best deal on minivans by far for power and comfort.
Where are you getting those numbers?
Are those number before or after incentives?
We are interested in bells and whistles only if it is a stupid great deal.
Could anyone post what pricing you are getting for the 2007 Sedona EX with Power, Luxury, and Prem. Entertainment packages?
I am interested in this van. There are several in my area. The closest dealer to me will not go as low as I want them to.
The earlier posts show these vans to have sold for $7000 +/- off MSRP in the past. I'm not seeing that kind of pricing at this time in my area.
Right now there is 3k factory to dealer cash, plus another 1k from ???, so I can see 4k total off of invoice.
Also I'm concerned about the depreciation of this van. Even if the 2007 EX van with all the packages were to sell for around 24k-25k (off of a 32k MSRP), if I drive it off the lot and return 4 days later to trade it in, KBB, NADA and Edmunds all show a trade-in value of approx. 20k. So, a 4k to 5k loss right away it would appear.
Any help/info/insights appreciated!
-Gary K
If you look at the 04 / 05 Sedona's there were pieces of crap, for the most part. It is going to be a few more years before their resale value will be up to par. But you can not beat the price and warranty if you plan on keeping the van. The 06+ are great vans.
I own an '06 and resale is MUCH worse than I expected. I know Kia hasn't historically had good resale, but I figured with the outstanding press, awards, and really competitive offering with value pricing the Sedona had, resale wouldn't have dropped so dramatically. I was wrong. It's definitely not an Odyssey (which I prefer), but for what I paid I thought it was a smart decision. I'm genuinely concerned now when I see 06 Sedona LX's retail priced at $13.9K at dealers, where you know there's room for negogiating down. I'd hate to think what private party sales would net, or trade-in would net. I'm not sure if owning an EX is a good thing or not, but at least it's not nearly as common....very few EX's in the classifieds. And with the resale concerns,I think I'm holding on to mine for a while... No reason not to, it's been trouble free for 18K miles, but really loyal to Honda and would like to eventually switch back.
Honda does make a great product. My wife's civic is great but don't think the Ody is without problems. They had a huge problem with people loosing their transmissions between 80K to 110K. They even had to extend the warranty though many owners were not covered. There are a lot of other problems as well. Honda's quality has been sleeping a little lately and Toyota has overtaken them in many ways. Kia's problems seem to be the little things, which can be very frustrating, but it does seem the powertrain is pretty darn good.
As far as you paying 30K for the 06... my lord what were you thinking? Maybe you had not choice but man that is 11k more then I paid.
To answer a few questions you had.
There was a TSB on the a/c pulley making a knocking sound which was an easy fix.
Ticking on startup there was a TSB on the timing chain tensioner to be replaced, annoying sound but was not causing any damage. It is normal to have a little valve noise on DOHC motors on startup especially when cold or sitting for a bit. All the oil flows back down to the oil pan and has to be pumped back up into the engine when you start for for a sew seconds there is some valve tapping. Some engines are more prone to this then others and it is just the way they are designed. Running a full synthetic will help reduce this and is much better oil anyway.
Your screech sound on startup I have never hear of that is unique.
Again people have had problems with both Kia, Toyota, and Honda. All 3 are far from perfect. The [non-permissible content removed] do have much better resale value but less warranty and a good deal higher price. What you get for your money Kia is far the best, though the few with horror stories will disagree I am sure.
Just my .02
Daniel
Rented a '07 Sedona LX from Enterprise in summer of '07 to drive from LA, CA to LV, NV and back. Surprise, we loved it, it was great transportation for our family of 4.
So here at the new year '08 I considered buying one, and just about had myself talked into it. Except, dealers in our area still want too much, given the instant drastic depreciation.
And the new and used Ody's from Honda dealers are also too expensive for us, so I will have to wait and watch prices.
-Gary K
What are you guys saying to get $19,500 (or $20,xxx with the power doors)?
The only problem is the 10/100k powertrain warranty is not transferable. Resets to 5/60 for subsequent owners. How stupid is that?
...yet one more way for Kia to GET you!!
I've had my '07 since Oct 1st. Now it is an EX,but in exc condition and only 4000 miles - drum roll please - current value...only $13500 on trade!!! I can't even trade the #@*! thing in!! I hate the thought of having to deal with a lawyer for the whole lemon law issue, but it's quickly becoming my only option (read my posts on mileage and brake issues if you want details).
My advice...........DON'T DO IT!!! Buy a used Odyssey or even a used Grand Caravan first. You'll be doing yourself a favor and saving yourself a lot of grief and frustration in the long run.
Good luck with yours!
I know minivan sales have been hit hard due to gas prices and new crossovers so I'm thinking you can find some incredible deals. Seems like a good buy for people that drive less than 10K miles a year.
But in Kia's defense, they had to do something this aggressive as Honda is secretly offering $3500 in marketing support dollars (click here) to dealers to move '08 Ody's.
Got $5000 rebate and another $800 employee pricing discount off of invoice.
After TT&L my OTD price was $26,845. Best deal in New Orleans area was a Banner Kia in Mandeville, LA.
I negotiated with Sienna and Honda and closest I came for a middle of the road options packacge was $30K after TT&L.
I'm pleased so far and just hope the Sedona hold up over time.
Good Luck to everyone.
I have been pleasantly surprised by the ride in this van.
This was near Atlanta, Ga .
The ride is very nice. The seller told me this is slightly more than he could expect to receive at auction.
We found a similarly equipped Chrysler Town and Country for $35,000 MSRP and Odys and Siennas in the high $20s with no where near the rebates offered at Kia.
Plus we are pleasantly surprised at the power and the 5 star safety ratings of the Kia. Plenty of room and storage compartments galore!
I researched Toyota Sienna and Honda Odyssey, finally decided to pull the trigger on this one. Do you guys think it is a good deal.
Where do you live? I am in Kansas City, KS.
Thanks. :confuse:
Can anyone recommend any Kia dealers in the Chicagoland area? Or maybe even ones to avoid?
You will enjoy the van and the MPG will get better as the miles break the engine in. Just be easy on it for the first 500 miles. Edmund's long term test got the best mileage at 25,000 miles they were able to see as high as 29 mpg on some highway driving.
A K&N filter and pump your tires up to about 35 / 36 psi will improve MPG a little as well.
I did not get the dvd system from Kia. I Chose to go aftermarket with a new touchscreen head unit and a 10.3 inch screen in the back. very nice and for only $800.00