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Hopefully, they'll get it right with the wagon.
I also just read that Jaguar came in 2nd in the most recent J.D. Power three month ownership survey. I'm considering buying the wagon, but am concerned about reliability. All of you out there - please advise.
Thank you!!
Regards:
Oldengineer
I am not a big guy and am surprised/disappointed by the seats.
I still haven't seen one on the road yet, and its been out for almost a year now I think.
Thanks.
Ok there I was surfing the web and I fell on the local dealer web site. There it was, British Racing Green, 17 inch wheels, champagne leather, and diesel. I wanted diesel as price of petrol has been and will certainly keep on climbing, in Europe. There I was looking at economical luxury.
Off to the dealer, test drove it.
First impressions were very positive, although it took me a while to get used to the driver's seat. The BMW offered more semi angles, whatever, that I had put into the memory of the seat. Looking around the car I noticed it was more luxurious than the BMW. Yes the BMW was loaded but it was that German strict luxury that had appealed to me all these yera. But this basic Jag was loaded, the wood, the leather, the sound system, the great 17 inch wheels, parking assistance.
Any case there I was in this heavy feeling car, changed gears (my BMW was a Tiptronic), got used to it a bit and pushed it expecting to have a slow climb in speed, oh no, it had that wow thrust. What? A silly 2.0 DIESEL engine can do that? Yes it did. I have since learned about its turbo and booster, smart engineering by Ford-Jag.
Went home, surfed the web focusing on Jag and trying to dig out the worst evaluations, found a few but certainly found more on the positive side. But there was always this reliability issue, which seemed to have subsided by 2004. Ok I was convinced.
Went back to the dealer and drove it again, still not at ease in the driver’s seat. I pushed it, it reacted. I took it on side roads outside Geneva and pushed it. It was loose compared to the BMW. However much more comfortable. Next step, I was torn, my reliable and fast BMW vs. the baby Jag. Not easy. Then it dawned on my I was comparing the two cars, i.e. they were pretty equal.
I called the dealer next day (did not have to check with my wife, she was traveling, yes I know when the cat is away...) , told him he had a deal.
Took delivery, drove from the dealer, drove it to my home in Geneva, about 50 miles, what a ride. Once in Geneva I had the warning faulty engine light ON. Thank you Jaguar. Damn Jaguar.
Called the dealer, they were very busy, they took it in a day later, they found the problem in less than 20 seconds, a wire out of its plug. Fantastic, the night before I had nightmares about how lousy my decision was. Now I was reassured, 1. the problem was negligible (yellow light) and 2. they found it. Nothing worse that several visits to the dealer for the same problem. Bravo Jag dealer.
I have lived happily ever since. I am in love. Do not miss my BMW at all.
There are a few quirks to fix, the steering makes a noise when pushed to the max on one end or the other, one of rear seat head rests is blocked. The dealer told me he will fix it next time I pass by for the service.
Eat your hearts out all you anti X-Types out there, picking on its Ford Mondeo origins, so what. Besides only 18% is Mondeo, and the even that was adapted and reengineered for the X-Type. Yes I know some parts are not up to the standard, e.g. console, so? You want to see the dry console of my more expensive BMW? Then there were some who had problems with the rear door latch, so? I had the same problem with my BMW. Some complained about the X-Type not having an automatic transmission, ca va pas? It has a small 2.0 diesel engine, what better than gears to get the max out of it. I am sure the same people would have criticized the higher consumption of the car had it been fitted with an automatic transmission.
Yes Jag is not 100% British, we all know that. Kudos to Ford for having done a better job with Jag than the original owners. Stop criticizing the car.
Show me a car without early years’ quirks. Good for Jag to have gotten rid of most of them.
I love this car and we decided to grow older together.
Hey makes our X-Types even more rare..
Problem I think is the Jag image, old and rich.. marketing should change that.. good luck to them..
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
Thanks,
Jeannine Fallon
Corporate Communications
Edmunds.com
My wife and I took delivery of our 2006 Land Rover LR3 HSE this year, and are keeping an eye on our 9 y.o. other car, a Dodge Avenger ES. It's been a very reliable car, but it is starting to show it's age, with things breaking down, and getting worn.
While we were in the dealership ordering out LR3, we saw a Jag sportwagon sitting waiting for someone to take delivery of it.
We didn't get a chance to play with it, as it had just been detailed, and was waiting for the new owner to show up, but what we did see of it made us want to look more.
Unfortunately, these things seem to be very rare - the dealer didn't have any other samples, and I haven't ever seen one on the road or even in a parking lot.
I was at a recent customer event for my LR/Jag/Bentley/Aston/Rolls dealer, and other Jag owners were surprised to learn that there was even such thing as a Jag wagon - and they had been to the dealership many times over the years...
My question is how are they? Can I just take an X-Type 3.0 for a spin, and expect much of the same from the wagon?
Do you make enough use out of the wagon part that I should really consider the X-Type Sport? (I already have the hulking Landy)...
Thanks!
Don
I would probably choose the model that has the bigger rebates- I remember checking recently that Jaguar had somewhere in the neighborhood of $5000 Dealer "Marketing Support" on the X Type 3.0 Sedan, which if you bargain hard, you can get it almost entirely passed on to you.
I didn't check the rebates on the Sportwagon.
Regards:
Oldengineer
Regards:
Oldengineer
It's partially the market to blame. Canada taxes imports on vehicles higher than in the US, so the markets for upscale vehicles are much leaner.
I know a guy who bought a 2006 Bentley Silver Spur up here, but was seriously balking at the 80k$ markup from buying the same thing in the US. He got offers to pick one up in Florida (he winters there), but was told by Bentley Canada that they wouldn't service it in Canada if he imported it.
He wound up buying it in Canada, but really wasn't happy about it.
Anyways, long story-short - it's doubtful if I can get any sort of rebates or marketing incentives, so I'll just see if I can't persude them to abandon their "no haggle" policy on their vehicle prices.
/DA
I am looking for some feedback with regards to purchasing Jaguar's extended warranty. My 03 X-Type sport has 23,000 miles and my warranty is due to expire in April 07 . Can anyone give me information relative to your purchase price and the type of warranty you purchased.
Thanks,
Doc
something good or bad to say about them since Oct. 21, 2006?
Sad ending to a rather nice vehicle.
I decided to take a wait and see attitude with the Canadian dollar becoming stronger, but the prices on used Sportwagons doesn't seem to be in the realm of reality.
The dealers are trying to get the residual values from the lease contracts' buy-out price... but with the Canadian dollar so strong, it's de-valued the price of these used cars badly. Nobody is buying out their leases up here, cause you can get into a new car for just a few points above what they are asking for your old car!
My dealership is asking CAD$29,900 for a used 2005 X-type Sportwagon with 20k miles, when it should probably be in the range of $21,890 (according to Edmunds used car current value tool) A new one is 36k! Who would pay 29,900 for a 2005??
If my dealer can drop his price to something near the reality price, I'll be picking it up, otherwise - no way. I'll be out looking for an Audi A4 Avant.
/DA
I've only seen 3 of these on the road during the 1 1/2 years I've owned the car. Quite rare. And rarer now that the X is extinct in the US.....
Significance? Jag has sold a least 1, if not 2 Sportwagons in Canada.
There. I've said it. Any comments? (Don't shoot the messenger.).
Regards:
OldCEM