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It's really sad because this is the 1st car that I have truly loved to drive and I am not very happy at this time with Nissan. :mad: ">
Steve
Correct me if I'm wrong, but being they are 'directional' tires if they are put on the opposite rim they will be going in the wrong direction whether they are removed from the rim or not...right? They can't possibly be rotated to the back as the back tires are slightly bigger. I haven't had any problems so far andI have just over 7,000mi on my 04 Z, but the service dept is hounding me to get it in for 'tire rotation', i suspect it's because they don't want me to 'discover' the horror tire stories I'm reading about the 03 & 04 Zs.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Oh, if I would have thought longer about it I would have eventually figured that out . In any event, I am holding off just a bit before taking it in for service because I don't know if I'll be able to control my anger, no less my disappointment regarding this whole situation. I will continue to check in. Thanks again for the clarification...it makes perfect sense!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Oh, hey, just did a search ... the info you need is right on Homelink's site:
http://www.homelink.com/training/train.taf
Choose "Program for the first time" and pick your car.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I have no problems so far, but I think the service dept is trying to get me in to rotate the tires before I discover there is a problem. Maybe i'm one of the few that don't have a defective car. It just bothers me that such a huge car company as Nissan would not be up front with consumers concerning the 350Z. They have lost credibility with me.
Secondly, you are mad at Nissan for the salesperson, who they don't control, at a dealership, that they don't control, for not telling you that the car you are about to buy MAY have tire issues in the future? Well, i guess that's your perogative.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
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Yes, I understand that Nissan can't control/ doesn't control the dealerships, etc.
but the KNEW the '03 Zs have problems and they still went on to sell the 04s anyway...that's what i was mad about :mad:
As an update I just had the tires rotated...talked at length with the Sev. Mgr. where I take it and he insited it was overblown as far as the 04s go because Nissan did not correctly tell the Z customers to make sure they get the front tires rotated before 7500 or there will be problems with wear and alignment, etc. because as we all know, we don't always read ALL of the manuals and so, I have to say at this point I am a happy camper :shades:
So I took it to the dealership and they checked the alignment and it was WAY out. The left side toe was -0.21 and the right was +0.17 the acceptable range is +0.00 - +0.10. The problem is I just had the alignment redone with 3000 miles on it, after I slid into a curb on the left side.
After they did that alignment at 3000 I noticed immediately that the tires made a strange droning noise at high speeds. So I had them look at it just 3 days later and the alignment was way out on the right rear tire, they said they had it right when it left the shop, they redid the alignment for free, but hinted I must have hit something.
Anyway 5,000 miles later and my alignment is way out again. People that have the feathering issue, are you finding that everytime you take it in for new tires the specs have gone way out?
Thanks
Andrew
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
That's potentially good info from the tech. I plan on having mine rotated at the next oil change just as a preventative measure. Based on that info, though, I probably should have had it done at the last oil change. Well, so far, I have alot of noise, but no noticeable feathering.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
They swear up and down that no other damage was done and they checked everything very carefully, because they couldn't beleive nothing else got damaged either. I am going to give it a little more time and see if the alignment slips out again.
Nissan is aware of the problem by evidence of their TSB (Technical Service Bulletin NTB03006).
The problem symptoms shows as “tire roar” (simular to driving your car with snow tires on it) The TSB tells the dealer to swap the left tire to the right side and the right tire to the left side (taking the tires off the wheels) and then align the car to NEW specs than the original factory settings. This does NOT fix the problem! It only hides the problem for a little while. Then the “tire roar” came back even worse. In my case, Nissan then gave the dealer authorization to put new front tires on my car and align the car again to newer specs.
3000 miles later on the NEW tires, the cupping (heal-toe wear pattern) came back! I then took my car in again and Nissan told the dealer to re-align the car yet again to the latest specs. 2000 miles later the cupping ireturned even worse. The “tire roar” became unbearable and the heal-toe wear pattern is now showed on BOTH the inside & outside tread blocks. My dealership, after 4 weeks of me calling Nissan North America to get them to call my dealer back to discuss the issue of changing my tires again and to put on a different brand of tire finally received the authorization to putI have been dealing with this issue since March of 2003!
I now have 36,000 miles on my car and I still have the cupping issue. Nissan has changed the alignment 6 times and I am on my 3rd set of tires!
Here is a just a small sample of 350Z owners that have the same problem:
Ian - VIN #100157, Case Complaint #4082264
David - VIN #100594
Scott - VIN#100903 Case Complaint #4059755
Robert - VIN#001766
Jason - VIN#100725 Case Complaint #4049797
Vince - VIN#000877 Case Complaint #4075864
Cobey - VIN#101116
Rod - VIN#110836 Case Complaint #4084933
James - VIN#001324 Case Complaint #4079129
Chris - VIN #103197 Case Complaint #4063661
Jim - VIN#003283
Steve - VIN#004278
Cam - VIN#103689 Case Complaint #4006573
Steve S. - VIN#006118 Case Complaint #4083945
Tim - VIN#103395
James W. - VIN#101018 Case Complaint #4081081
Brad - VIN#000368 Case Complaint #4069344 (2nd)
Conal - VIN#000786 Case Complaint #4089440
Michael - VIN#010832 Case Complaint #4084381
Matt - VIN#002594 Case Complaint #4089713
Keith G. - VIN#000680 Case Complaint #4088854
Keith H - VIN#001434
Lee - VIN#100674 Case Complaint #4087221
Glen - VIN#013166
Rick - VIN# 002043
Jerry - VIN#006027
Mark - VIN#015615
JD - VIN#002533
Joy - VIN#100850
Ricky - VIN#000172
Steve Se. - VIN#005449 Case Complaint #4126032
Jim T. - VIN#007045 Case Complaint#4203517
Vic - VIN#007468 Case Complaint#
Todd - VIN#005309 Case Complaint#4248428
Ron - VIN#009176 Case Complaint#4240264
Chris 2 - VIN#007549 Case Complaint#4097306
Thad - VIN # 114492 Case Complaint#598815
Mika - VIN #004318 Case Complaint#4254193
Robert - VIN#003612 Case Complaint#
Jacques - VIN#109759 Case Complaint#4309843
NHTSA DOI number is 10043366
Ramon - VIN#002338
Josh - VIN#112964
Milt - VIN#002370 Case Complaint#4322037
Artur S. - VIN#009051 BBB case number - NIS0358506
Randy - VIN#009959 Case Complaint#4230229
Linda VIN#101957
Nate B. - VIN#005088 Case Complaint#4308954
Maybe there have been more incidents by now. Is there a better way to get resolution than arguing with the dealer? Any comments will be appreciated.
Ken Gilleo - Warwick, RI :confuse:
Anyway, while I'm typing and thinking of this... can anyone else confirm where the oil registers on the dipstick? About a month or so ago, I checked my oil and it read half a quart low .... so I added half a quart. Drove it that day, when I got home, I checked it again and it still said half a quart low .... hmmmmm.... I added a little bit more, drove it the next day and could swear I smelled oil. So this made me a bit suspicious and I decided to ride it out a couple of weeks and see what happens. Well, as it turns out, no matter how much I drive it this past month, it ALWAYS tells me its half a quart low. Does anyone else notice this? Is it just a quark I need to be aware of that it will never read full, even though it is (and may be overfull now)?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I'm glad you're glad I'm happy
Here is my update: I picked up the car after the 7300mi tire rotation and the Service Tech said the tires were wearing evenly and smoothly! They did not have to rotate the back tires as the drive tire was good...indicating to them I was not jumping on the gas and burning rubber at every opportunity. As of this note the car is driving fine. I hear no tire noise and the steering is great. I do love this car and get alot of looks! That also has to do with the fact that I installed a custom grill, custom lights replacing the 2 reflectors in the front bumper and custom lights installed behind the Z logo on both sides of the car AND a custom spoiler from California! It's really a head turner. Drive on and enjoy your summer! :shades:
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
I torqued them back in myself, all seems ok for now, but will now need to keep an eye on this....
Anyway, I have not had the pleasure of driving my Z in snow yet, where do you live, any luck with tires that work? I'm actually thinking about buying a $1000 junker to drive to work instead of investing in Tires, then drive the Z on days with no snow...(Iowa Quad Cities)
texas350z - are we talking front tires, rear tires, or both?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
In addition to the worse ride you get with run-flats you also get to replace them 4 times as often. The tire companies love it.
Do you think the brake issue is related to tires??
My dealer has been NO help whatsoever. When I called about the problem and said I think this is part of the ongoing problem they have had with tires his response was "we don't make the cars ma'am"....
I feel totally screwed by the dealer, Tom Peacock Nissan in Houston, and by Nissan, who also is not admitting to the ongoing defect and only paying a portion for tire replacement.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
15000 miles, bought the car new in November. I am on my second transmission, and now the second transmission is grinding in 5th and 6th gear.
-my transmission is garbage as stated above
-my seat shifts incessantly
-my rear wiper nozzle leaks on acceleration (only a bit)
-my rear axles click like a rattle spray paint can on crak
-my paint is chipping on the sides and the roof, despite the fact that I paid 600 bucks for a clearbra
-my seat fabric is wearing out..
-my front tires are feathering and roar when coming to a stop (at around 25 mph)
I no longer want this car.... I dont care how much fun it is to drive, and how pretty it is.
I pay 511 a month for it, and people driving by have LAUGHED at me because of the grinding transmission. I am sure I look real cool accelerating fast with washer fluid leaking all over my window, my transmission grinding and my axles clicking.
I'm REALLY surprised you bought a Murano after being so disappointed in your Z. If I had all of those problems, I'd be turned off of Nissan altogether.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S
Had I known, no way in he|| I would have done this.
So far (knock on wood) the Mo has only had two minor problems, the alignment has gone off twice (this may not be minor, but hopefully it is) and the sun visors rattle...
The wierd thing is it doesn't do it all the time, sometimes the car feels totally solid when engaging in fourth. Two questions, do you think it is the clutch or the gear? The second is, the only thing I do different about 4th gear is that doing hard accellerations in town, I usually just shift from 2nd to 4th when I hit 45 MPH since that is going to be my cruise speed in town. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
TACOMABOY:
I had the rear axle issue you talk about too. They replaced both right and rear side underwarranty since it is a known issue in the 03 and 04 models. I bought my 04.5 Roadster in Nov and have 11,0000 miles on it. Will they not replace those for you. Also did you have to pay for the transmission or did they cover it, and how much did it cost.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S