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Acura TSX vs Acura TL
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That'd be the TSX.
But, it is amazing how many more TLs I saw on the road (much to my dismay!) once I bought my TL in '05.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Sounds like your dealer provides good service!
My daily commute is about 4 miles of city streets at each end of a 13 mile freeway leg. The freeway part is usually at 80 mph depending on how many retards there are clogging the passing lane :mad: The TL-S runs very relaxed at 2750 RPM at 80 mph. I am ADHD (not one of those people who uses it as an excuse), so my brain will literally check out if I drive 60 mph for any length of time. By staying faster and moving past traffic my brain has to stay focused on many things, and thus it keeps me alert. It's kind of like who a kid can't pay attention to a boring class lecture but can sit in front of the computer and play Halo for 4 hours (or more) without a break.
Under hard acceleration the poor TSX's mileage suffers, hence the small difference in overall mileage when I drive the two cars. The TSX really just needs more lower end torque. :shades:
Kids are grown so my days of the minivan are over. Did not need a big car,really wanted the TSX.
I did quite a few test drives in the TSX and decided it did not have enough power for
me. That being said it is a great car.
Oh by the way, I have the Morrocan Red.
Old Mike
Where I live in Texas the average speed on the interstate is about 75-78 unless there is a retard with a driver's license around. The cops do patrol the area but they use Lidar and are so easy to spot I could slow to 40 mph before they clock me. They sometimes try to sneak up on people from behind but I am one of the 5 drivers in Texas that has figured out what a rear view mirror is for. So far I have had no tickets in my county in the 7years I have lived here. That's not too bad considering the nearly 100,000 miles I have driven on these roads.
The secret is to drive consistently and safely........pretend the road is the Autobahn and you are a German with a Mercedes. Interestingly, the Autobahn has a lower accident rate than the US interstates. But you can chalk it up to driver mentality and superior training. That and they don't allow beaters on the road! For such a "repressive socialist state" they sure have some nice freedoms that we don't.....such as unlimited sections of the Autobahn (when weather and traffic permits), and freedom from drunk drivers (or at least compared to us!). Driving is one area where I think a rigid and involved system like theirs is superior. Lets face it, Americans think driving is a right and we will give a license to anyone with a pulse and better than 20/100 vision. (Autobahn rant mode off)
I am kinda glad the tl-s was not out when I bought my tsx- especially if it were the red with 6 MT. I probably would be owning that. I do love my tsx (paid for) I love red as you probably can tell.
I can not believe the bad drivers here-they pull in front of you on the highway and go real slow-get up to speed a-whole. Driving 55+ when they suddenly slow down-no signals-to make a turn that takes forever. Oops I doing the autobahn thing)
will be driving from NC to California in May-going thru Texas-where are U.
Oh yeah I probably have some form of attention disorder-don't feel bad. It's normal (Lol)
after going thru the hogging the back seat phase-a mini van with captain chairs is the way to go with kids-not the tl or tsx.
I am very happy with my tsx and glad you are with your tl. acuras are great cars.
my 40th high school reunion will be next year sometime-if they have it. my age is revealed (LOL)
While maybe not quite as nice inside as the TL, the TSX is hardly a penalty box. I think the Acura interiors are on par with VW, which is to say, outstanding.
Though, I will say that the new TL is very nice, but they really need to tame down that grill. Even lowering it down a bit and make it a bit smaller, it would make a world of difference. Its not that it looks bad, but perhaps a bit odd or over the top. Its like we get the point. I happened to look on Ebay and there are several better looking grills to replace the OEM. They could be a great option for it. I would not say the TL's interior is any nicer than the TSX, but larger in scale. That is the nice thing about Honda, you can drive a base model and still feel classy and the engineering.
With the TSX being smaller than the TL, it probably drives better, but differently than the older TSX. I so need to test drive them both!!
The TL has a very pleasing layout, feels very nice in there, but you do get the sense of overkill and that some of the gadgetry won't get used much after the first couple months. The TSX looks a bit stylistically forced, although all the materials are nice and refined. I do very much like the TSX approach to features content, though. There is all the essential high-end stuff and nothing more - and you don't have to buy overblown options packages to get it. Try optioning out an Audi sometime. Yikes!!!
I must say that I am very pleasantly surprised by the quality, precision and excellent driving dynamics of all of the Acuras I have driven recently. It makes me wonder why I wasn't considering them before? Maybe I just thought of them as uber-Hondas? The TSX feels like my Audi, with none of the rough edges. The TL reminds me of a high-end turbocharged Volvo sedan I had many years ago - big, plush and a little floaty, but able to get up ON IT when you mashed the accelerator. I bet I will not get to know my Acura mechanic near as well as my Volvo mechanic, though. Overall, really nice cars! I can see where everyone's enthusiasm comes from.
* 4cyl engine
* Good gas mileage
* convenient size
* More bang the buck- cost effective
Some are trying to justify why spending more to get the TL, when the TSX really offers a great package, and at a great price. People are thinking more about their wallets. I think the TL is almost like the old RL, and well the new RL, well its the mack daddy of all Honda's!
Did the TL overdo it? or did the TSX? Not sure.
More details on VTEC.net.
http://www.google.com/search?q=2005+tsx+horsepower&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=or- - g.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
Or, since you went to the effort to join Edmunds.com (by the way, welcome aboard!), you can also find your answer here...
http://www.edmunds.com/used/2005/acura/tsx/100449787/specs.html
But its simple if you dont work top-down like all the comments i've read here have.
Bottom-up goes like this:
Honda makes 2 accords. The Japanese Honda Accord is one. And the second is the same car that they stretched out to fit larger engines and larger people and they call it the American Accord. Then they lux them both up with acura emblems and such and sell basically very similar cars next to each other in Acura showrooms.
But their biggest difference is the important one for consumers. Price. So its easy to choose. How much honda do you want? its like buying wallpaper. If you want 9ft 1in of Honda - buy the Acura TL. Interestingly the accord is larger (as per typical epa classification of wheelbase) than the TSX.
Which is exactly how BMW are marketed these days. They're kinda all the same, just more of it including $. Except not really since the only real Acura that is Not a honda is the RL. Just like the only Real Lexus is the LS. So if you want honest value, the accord is the best. If you want more ego get the Acura and you'll pay the price with your wallet.
So simple.
Rob