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Ford Mustang (2005 and Newer)

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    Edmunds.com Eighth Annual Editors' Most Wanted

    Have you ever wondered what the editors at Edmunds.com would choose to buy if they could select a model from each class? The Editors' Most Wanted Vehicles for 2006 is based on criteria set forth by the editorial team... namely, what would each of them want in their garage? Knowing this team of diverse people and their lifestyles is an assurance that the list is for the real world and not a wish list. Well, except for the exotics!

    So, what did the editors choose?

    Coupe Under $25,000 Ford Mustang

    Convertible Under $25,000 Ford Mustang
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,902
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  • detailzdetailz Posts: 47
    I test drove the 2005 GT with 17" tires/rims and did not notice any issues at that time. After waiting 4 months and was told that my 2005 was not going to be built, I told the dealership to "reorder" the 2006 GT with the 18" tires/rims. These came through with the matte finished Al wheels and the 18" BFGoodrich GForce Z rated High Speed Tires ....all seasonal. Have taken quite a few trips on these tires and the handling/traction is absolutely superb and the ride is so quiet that you don't even hear the tire...can hear the roar of the engine, though, which is a good thing as you know!
    ....hope this helps..........let me know how it works out
  • gaskidgaskid Posts: 5
    Today the Barrett Jackson Automobile Auction broadcast on the Speed Channel will be auctioning, for charity, a 2007 Shelby GT500. Watch it if you have a chance.
  • gaskidgaskid Posts: 5
    The car went for $700,000!

    The winning bidder will get an early VIN 2007 Shelby GT500 coupe, the first one offered for sale to the public. The car will be produced to the successful bidder’s specification, including the color and factory available options, for delivery when production begins later in the year. All proceeds from the winning bid will go in support of the Carroll Shelby Children's Foundation.
  • lmmlmm Posts: 70
    In Seattle I couldnt find anyone who would sell a GT for x plan. The best I found was $500 under MSRP. There are not a lot of GT's on the dealer lots.
    There are a ton of V6's and I bought one on 12/31 for $1600 under invoice at Ford of Kirkland. They were definitely dealing at year end. You can get a V6 for x plan or if you cant do x plan very close to invoice. I couldnt pass on my deal it had every option but Shaker1000.
    There's a dealer in Austin Tx on one of the mustang forums saying they are dealing on GT's. Seems the southern states have lots of GT's.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Ordering a Mustang with 18 inch wheels will put your car farther out as there is a limited availabilty on this option.

    Mark.
  • Sounds like my 06 GT Vista Blue is "bunked" and coming very soon like this week or next! Ordered September 3. Anyway it got added with another mustang which help speed up the delivery. I really did not want it till spring but in reading other folks trying to get Mustang GT's I better grab it and be glad. He tells me that they are so busy making them that they may stop taking orders for 06's soon.
  • marksermarkser Posts: 16
    Hey everyone, new to this board as a poster, but have been reading the forums for about the last 5 months or so. I found a way to get a Mustang GT Premium at X-Plan! Buy two cars at the same time and demand it! Picking up my wife's Freestyle SEL tonight for a steal. It was a Demo, but it is LOADED! Have had the dealer, here in Atlanta, looking for my Mustang GT for me. No luck in finding the exact one that I want anywhere in the region, but they have one allocated to them at the plant that all they have to do is change the wheels and have it built. Will be getting the VIN# tonight. Ordering a Vista Blue Premium, IUP, 18" Fanblades. I can't wait. In the near future, I plan to add a C&L CAI and a Cat-Back exhaust system, either Flowmaster or Borla or maybe Basini. Hopefully will have it in about a month! Will keep you updated!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    Which dealer?
  • marksermarkser Posts: 16
    Team Ford on U.S 41 in Marietta. I already qualified for X-Plan, due to the fact that I work for a Ford Supplier. As you know, though, the dealer does not HAVE to honor the plan. I just made it a bit easier on them by telling them I was purchasing 2 vehicles at the same time. There are a couple of other dealers in the area who said they would also honor X-Plan if I was to purchase both cars at the same time.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    I have a great salesman at Billy Howell in Cumming. He said he was pretty sure he could order a GT coupe on X plan or any V6 but that the GT convertibles were still going for sticker (right now). If they had surplus verts in April then he might be able to deal on them but not now.

    I was buying my Fusion (on X plan) from him about 3 months ago and when I walked into the showroom there was a brand new yellow Ford GT all roped off with a couple of sales people standing nearby. After I wiped the drool off my chin I told the sales people that I needed to go find my (x-plan) pin. The guy held out an ink pen and said this is the only pen you'll be needing for that car! They're actually not selling as great as they were and you can get one for close to MSRP, although Ford raised the MSRP by $10K. And yes, they do have X plan prices (and A/Z/D) - my salesman showed me the invoice. Not that you'd ever be able to buy it for that.
  • 30,000 layoffs, 14 plant closures. As much as I love my GT Premium, these facts make me wonder if buying a Ford was the best idea. Will dealerships start closing? Will service and parts be harder to get? Will the car's resale value go plummeting?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    Just the opposite. They WILL be around in 5 years precisely because of what they're doing. All they're doing is getting rid of the excess capacity that they've been building up over the last few years. They're not killing any models that they haven't already decided to kill and I don't think they're cutting back on production for existing models beyond what they're currently selling or forecasting for the near future. The only effect it should have is a positive one on the bottom line.

    I'd be worried if they weren't making these types of announcements.
  • You may be right. Afterall, Ford stock went up 5% yesterday following the announcement of down sizing. But I was listening to a Wall St Journal analyst on the radio who said that unless Ford sales soon rivaled the Japanese, it wasn't beyond the realm of the possible that Ford could go the way of Studebaker. They're producing 1 million cars more than they're selling.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    They can't be making 1 million cars more than they're selling - where would they put them???

    What Ford and GM (and to a lesser degree - Chrysler) have been doing is building more cars than they can sell to the public at a reasonable price. So they've had to sell them to fleets (rental cars e.g.) or put enormous incentives on them. What they have to do is figure out how many they can sell at their target price and only produce that many. That's what will protect residual values and get rid of huge incentives. I'd be surprised to see more than $1K per car incentives from Ford (current year models) going forward. Then you gain back market share by introducing more models using the same philosophy or improving current models and taking sales and market share from other companies.

    You gotta go down before you can go back up. It won't happen overnight but at least Ford is moving in the right direction. I still don't think GM gets it.
  • Depends on the dealer. I'm picking up my 06 GT Prem tonight at the dealer and I bought it employee pricing (Z plan actually). I did have to order it for the z plan pricing but hey my car was built & shipped within 6 weeks. My dealer must have no problems with allocation.

    Man today is going to be a LONG day! :D
  • marksermarkser Posts: 16
    Very COOL!!!! Had no problems with the wife's Freestyle last night. Saw my order sheet and the salesman will get me my VIN# today. It is already part of their allocation, they just made a few minor changes. Hopefully it will get here within a month! I can't wait, but it will give me a couple more payments on my trade as I am still slightly upside down on it. But then again, when I do get it, the weather should be awesome! Can't wait for it's first road trip......maybe blast down I-75 to Florida!
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    The media loves to bash Ford. Who would listen to or read a positive story about Ford?

    Facts: Ford thanks to the sale of Hertz and a $2 billion NET income for 2005 raised its CASH on hand to OVER $25 billion.

    Ford's short and long term debt is $21 billion.
    Ford's stock equity at current market prices is $15 billion.

    This is not a company that is in dire straights.
    This is a company that is trying to restore profitability to one of its divisions, the NA Car Division.

    Please keep in mind that the car industry today is vastly different from what it was even 10 or 15 years ago. There are many more brands, many more name plates and many more different catagory of vehicles.

    Ford can be successful by selling less cars/trucks if those are sold at a profit. Ford wants to become a company that builds products that rather than appeals a little bit to a large number of people appeals a lot to a smaller group of people. A small group of more motivate buyers will pay more for a vehicle.

    A perfect example of the type of car Ford wants to build is the Mustang. The appeal of this vehicle is limited but be cause Ford focused like a laser on the target group of customers, the car is a huge success. If you want a Mustang, what other car out there would you even consider? The appeal of the Mustang is so unique that the people who want it are willing to pay a premium.

    The opposite of the car Ford wants to build is the Ford Five Hundred. The Five Hundred has many positive attributes such that totally rational actors would place it high on their list. Unfortuantely for Ford, robots don't buy cars. Emotional People buy cars.

    The man in charge, Mark Fields, was the guy who brought Mazda back from the brink. Look at the Mazda3. This is probably the most expensive car in its size catagory but because it is so well focused on what it is trying to accomplish and who it is trying to appeal to, it is selling almost as fast as it can be made WORLD WIDE!

    Its ironic that the US Ford Focus has none. Totally bland interior. Out of date exterior. The great engine/driving experience just isn't enough to over come the rest of the vehicle.

    Mark
  • "Moving in the right direction" and getting there are two different things. The only two Ford products that are selling off the lot are the Mustang and hybrids. Why the Zephyr isn't even being marketed is beyond me, maybe just another example of Ford misdirection.
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Um, my dealership has 1 Zephyr and we have yet to have more than 2 in stock at the same time.

    Mark
  • Mark, you're making my argument. With products for which Ford can't keep up with demand, how can Ford be heading toward bankruptcy? Answer: they're still not selling enough cars. Repeat: 1 million Ford cars go unsold each year. That indicates a serious lack of predicting (and meeting) demand.

    The Japanese, for instance, keep only as much inventory on hand as is needed to produce the current batch of cars; they never stockpile. This allows them to adopt to changing market conditions and quickly gear up to new demand. In contrast, Ford built tens of thousands of gas-guzzling SUV's nobody wants, yet can't build the Mustangs and hybrids that are in demand. That's terrible planning.

    Every corporation does extensive market research in order to predict demand. It seems Ford hasn't been doing its homework. In contrast, Ford international sales have been doing well, in markets Ford did project correctly.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    The glut of SUVs is due to the high gas prices following the Katrina disaster. Before that they were selling fine.

    Show me a company whose market research predicted that a hurricane would hit N.O. and cause gas prices to spike which would hurt SUV sales.

    The high demand period is over for mustangs, especially V6 mustangs. Ford was VERY smart not to overproduce mustangs when the demand was so high, otherwise they'd have way too many now. As it stands they can cut back on overtime and put production back to a nice, sustainable level.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    And where do you keep hearing that a million cars are going unsold each year? If so, exactly where are they going? Are they throwing them away like expired milk? Are they donating them to the American Kidney Fund? Or maybe they're just dumping them in the ocean to get rid of them?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,536
    Before that they were selling fine.

    thanks to $10K in incentives.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    The rebates were nowhere near $10K. Maybe $3K max. Current rebates on leftover 2005 explorers is only $5K and $2K on new 2006 explorers.

    They obviously recognized the shift away from SUVs at least 3 years ago when they started developing the Freestyle and Edge crossovers. Unfortunately the market shift is happening before the Edge is in production. I think it caught everyone by surprise. Look at GM - they're just revamping their full size trucks and SUVs this year.
  • High demand is not over for GT's, far from it. I challange you to go out and find one equipped the way you want it, in the color you want, at MSRP. V6's have always been relatively plentiful, but, imo, the V6 is not what the new Mustang was designed for, but only a cheaper, stripped-down model meant to increase sales.
  • Source for 1 million Ford vehicles not sold: evening network TV news.

    What do they do with 'em? Beats me.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,726
    Maybe they meant "not built" as opposed to "not sold". At any rate I wouldn't trust anything I heard on TV news, network or otherwise.
  • No, they specifically said 1 million cars were built and not sold, and showed a huge lot of cars.

    I don't blame you for not trusting anything on CBS, NBC, or ABC news. I would extend my skepticism to cable news and the major newspapers and magazines, the NY Times, Wash Post, LA Times, Newsweek, Time, New Yorker, the Atlantic, ad nauseum.
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