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If a dealer is really nice, he could modify something already in the pipeline to meet your spec.
4 weeks means every thing goes perfect.
6 - 8 weeks is more typical
over 8 weeks means that something about the order did not fit into the build schedule imediately or you had a restricted commodity item. For instance 18" wheels are limited, navigation is limited, stick on GT or V6 is limited, GTs are limited, although not as much as in previous years.
Invoiced accessories also cause delay, trip tunes, mobiles, etc.
Mark.
Ordered v6 premium pony. DCAR with dark charcoal leather. Shaker 500, sirius, Safety & security package, heated seats, chrome exhaust tip, auto, interior upgrade. I was surprised that the 08 total msrp is lower than equally equipped 07. Ford made side airbags standard and combined the alarm in the safety and security. That is why I ordered o8 rather than try to locate 07. Even though I lose the rebate, I gain a model year.
The dealer did give me a priority 10.
I can't believe what a bargain this car is. Some people suggested I wait for the Challenger or Camaro, because they would probably be faster and/or have more horsepower. Perhaps. But I'll bet those engines will suck gas like a GTO. I'll also wager that both of those cars will be more expensive than a Mustang.
I'm happy with a 300 horsepower 4.6. There will always be another car somewhere that is faster. I can stand it.
Last I read they were having a hard time keeping the base price of the Camaro V6 model below $25k because of the expensive platform they used and the IRS. How true that still is I don't know but I'm with you. There are better choices for the kind of money those two are probably going to sell for. Like a GT500.
Mark
Then why doesn't Ford put CAI on all Mustangs? Wouldn't that mean better CAFE numbers?
For those old enough to remember, think back to the days of a 4BBL carb that when the secondary's were opened creating a distinct (and welcome in my case) "sucking sound" from the increased air being drawn in.
Can't the dealership give me some kind of document showing that I have priority 10? I called the dealership earlier today and talked to the lady who placed my order. She seemed disgruntled when I asked if she could fax me the Vehicle Order Confirmation. She went on to say that my order has been placed with the plant. She also said that everyone is priority 99 until the order is with the plant, and that after the order is with the plant priority numbers don't matter. She asked me where I was getting my information.
She then said something about waiting a week and half to see if there are any changes to the order, and that after a week and a half she gets a VIN number. I asked if I could have my VIN number. She asked why. I said that I wanted to track the order with Ford. She said that if I needed any information I should deal with the dealership.
She compared my situation to standing in line. She said I'm behind others who have ordered, and that two other guys who ordered after me are behind me. This really shouldn't matter if the dealer has sufficient allocation, should it?
I really didn't care for her testy attitude. (She must not work off of commission.)
I'm wondering if the dealership is trying to hoodwink me. So I return to my original question. Can't the dealership provide evidence of my priority number?
If they can, and they won't, then I feel like cancelling my order and going elsewhere.
I'm willing to give the sales manager a shot. I just need to make sure what's what before I talk to them again. Are dealerships able to give proof that an order is priority 10, and should I insist on this proof? I don't want to get "stroked", as Mark was saying.
Or is it wiser to ask for the VIN number?
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Oh they will come with a V6 in the base model but rumor is they will have V8 options with a base V8 and an optional V8. That's what I was referring to when I said base V8.
I also believe the pricing with the V6 will start in Mustang GT territory.
I can't remember which one it was exactly but I read in C&D or MT that GM was having a really hard time keeping the V6 UNDER $30k. That is certainly not a good sign for the Camaro if true.
ah, ok.
GM was having a really hard time keeping the V6 UNDER $30k
If that is true, they should skip the V6 altogether. UNLESS its the direct injection 3.6 with 304hp being used in the CTS. If its well equipped and has that engine with the 6-speed stick, I could see $30k.
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I'm still perplexed by the lady's attitude on the phone. To me, a more proper response would be, "Yes, sir. You have a priority 10 order. Would you like me to send you a copy of the order as verification?"
I think I'm starting to understand the situation. I guess dealerships want to give higher priority to cars they need for their lot, or orders that will make them more money. I thought my $450 over invoice deal was enough incentive for them, but perhaps I was wrong.
I'm going to have a talk with the sales manager. If he can't give me proof that I'm priority 10, then I'll go elsewhere.
The priority that we are referring to is how dealerships tell Ford what sequence the dealer wants their identical orders filled. Once the order is "submitted to plant" the priority no longer has any meaning. Ford has their own production priority.
However Ford still controls when and even a priority 10 won't get built if Ford does not like something about the order. For instance if there is a commodities limit set by Ford on a specific option... usually 18 inch wheels are limited. Then the order with that option won't get scheduled until Ford feels like it.
Also if there are 2 priority 10 orders, and one of those orders includes a limited commodity and one does not then one might get scheduled that week the other might not get scheduled for a month.
Also an order won't get built for a dealer unless that dealer has allocation.
At this point, since it sounds like there is a VIN, just ask them when the build date is. Then if you find out that its a Monday or a Friday. You have to decide if you are going to be superstitious. SO sometimes you might not want to know.
I assume that most dealers enter their retail orders with a priority 10. The reason why you want to check is because it is something that can be forgotten accidently and then the order gets the default priority. . (if you saw the ancient unix looking screen orders get entered into you would understand).
Mark
I suppose my 18" wheels, Triptunes, and hands-free phone system will slow the order down. I recall you saying that the Triptunes and hands-free can be installed by the dealership. I wonder if it is exactly the same as the factory, not to mention that dealerships will sometimes charge more for local installation than the factory would. (That is the case with Infiniti).
I don't mind knowing the Monday/Friday thing. I think it's an overblown issue anyway, just like people who say red cars get all the speeding tickets. Yeah, like all cops are crips or something.
Rumor has it the F-150 and Mustang will get the non DI 3.7L V6 from the Lincoln MKS as it is being engineered for RWD already in that car. I believe it puts out 280 HP out of the box on 87 octane and torque is in the high 260s IIRC.
If that does become the case then the base V8 absolutely must be upgraded or it almost won't be worth the extra $$ for 20 more horses (but a good bit more torque still).
The dealers will also have a chart with actual paint samples so you can at least see it even though it will be a small sample.
Mark.
Mark.
I would think the latter is more likely.
The insert that Ford shipped with our color catalogue shows a metallic version of DCAR but that is not what is on the cars from the Factory.
The order guide also says that DCAR is metallic.:
EXTERIOR COLOR CHANGES
New Colors Added:��
— Silver Clearcoat Metallic (Replacing Satin Silver)
(YN)
— Dark Candy Apple Red Clearcoat Metallic (Replaces
Redfire) (JV)
— Vapor Clearcoat Metallic (Replacing Tungsten) (ZY)
Typical FORD, say one thing do another.
Incidently, it could just be a screw up. Dark Toradore Red comes in both clearcoat and clearcoat metallic.
Mark.