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I figure that in a few years this Mustang may be passed down to one of our kids, the first of whom who will be starting to drive in another year. So a base 5 speed 6 cyl coupe in red or blue should be just the thing for now. In a few years my wife and I may decide to pick up one to keep for the next 20 years or so - perhaps another red convertible - maybe a GT???!! It's Fun to think about!
JD Powers just found that the Initial Quality of the 2004 F-150 not only exceeded the previous design, it was also second in its class after the Toyota Tundra.
Trust me, ford learned its lesson from the fiasco with the Focus launch and the Escape launch. Also, this program has Bill Fords personal attention...and he still has control of 40% of Ford Stock...
I say buy it.
Mark
I've read some of the remarks in prior posts regarding the 4.0L six intended for the base Mustang but will have to do more research there.
Both the 4.0 cologne and the 4.6 mod engine are all aluminum which should prevent that problem.
Mark
The 4.6 in the 2004 GT and in the 2004 Cobra has an iron block. Only the 04 Mach 1 of the current 2004 Stangs has an aluminum block. All the earlier non-supercharged Cobras with the 4.6 had aluminum blocks, but the GT has always had an iron block 4.6.
I would assume the 4.6 in the Crown Vic is also an iron block motor.
I will begin requesting internet quotes from local dealers when they have all the info. It will be interesting to see just how hard they hold the line on MSRP and what if anything Ford may offer for incentive to get this car onto the street as fast as possible.
The article quoting him on this came from the Financial Times but I don't subscribe to their site and I think the text, which is in a post on another Mustang site, is too long to post here.
He also stated that he doesn't think they'll have enough 2004's to to keep lots stocked. It'll be close but it looks like they won't make it right now.
I'm getting ready to buy a car in the next 6 months. The thought of buying an american car never entered my mind. Until I saw pictures of the '05 Mustang. Personally, I hated the look of mustangs in the 70's and really hated them in the 80's. Throughout the 90's I went to just really not being fond of the way the looked. At least there were links to the Mustangs of the 60's but they still were very unappealing to me.
The '05 mustang, in my opinion, is a stunner. Absolutely gorgeous. Never in a million years did I think I would seriously consider buying a new american car. As it stands now, I won't even make a decision on my next car until I can test drive the '05 mustang GT.
The exterior is a great blend of old and new and, to me, the only interior that rivals the 05 mustang is the current bmw Z4.
Now I just have to practice the art of patience.
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I love all cars, and my mind changes constantly, though I tend to keep cars for a while. I currently drive an SVT Contour, but I want my next car to be something other than another fwd sport sedan.
Anyways, the purpose of my post was to find out if anyone cross-shops as widely as I do.
<just kidding!> ; )
SVT Contour's a sweet and rare car though...I'd hang on to that myself.
Based on this, I end up looking at a slew of stuff, such as Mazda 3, Volvo S40, Solara convertible, Accord coupe, BMW, Acura Tsx and TL, Infiniti G35, the next Mustang convertible, Mazda RX-8, the WRX, the next Legacy, and some other stuff that I can't think of now.
Just figure out what really lights your fire, and if it works for your situation (without too much rationalization), but it and enjoy.
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Stickguy, you're list looks earily familiar! Many of those cars and the criteria you listed are mine as well.
John_324, I do love my car, and I've only had it for about a year so I plan on keeping it for several more years. When I look at new cars, I'm really looking at them for their potential as a nice slightly used car in a few years.
Not at all. I will look seriously at the new Mustang IF the IRS is ever available on the GT – or IF the SVT becomes available with a man-u-matic style of 5 (or 6) speed automatic trans. I currently own a Lincoln LS – and drove just about every car that I thought MIGHT be fun to drive in the approx. $30 to 45K MSRP range.
And I think that traditional cross shopping “wisdom” is dead. The ability of many high performance vehicles to also perform very adequately in many other (more pedestrian?) areas, for instance, means that a wide range of vehicles can be considered when cross shopping.
And I certainly do – when shopping for myself.
Cheers,
- Ray
Odd in other ways . . .
In my case with both a 95 Suburban and an 00 Bonneville that have each passed the 100K mile marker the question is whether to replace one or the other or keep both and buy a 3rd vehicle. That's where I'm leaning - and can't wait to see the ordering specs and prices for that 05 Mustang V6 Coupe.
http://home.cogeco.ca/~themustangsource/2005%20MUSTANG%20ORDER%20- GUIDE.PDF
Sonic Blue V6 Premium Coupe with (Med Parchment) interior upgrade package, side curtains, antilock brakes, exterior upgrade package for the spoiler and 'Mustang' stripe and possibly leather. I'm starting to lean towards an automatic too - we'll see.
http://home.cogeco.ca/~themustangsource/2005%20MUSTANG%20ORDER%20- GUIDE1.PDF
Full production of the Mustang is scheduled for September. Periodically we breathe life into this magnificent vehicle...sadly, they're used as crash cars
Thanks for your interest...wahhhhh, I want a pony too.
RedcOuger - I am encouraged to see the specs for the V6. I think Ford has it exactly right offering the Premium coupe. Only item I did not see on the equipment list or available options that I really prefer is the auto headlamps/DRL. I believe this is a dealer installed option for 04.
I've seen the new Mustang (not in test vehicle garb) on the road on two occasions so far. This is fairly common in the Detroit area if you drive enough Both times, it was a red car, seemingly identical to the "laser red" that was available in the past few years. Honestly I haven't been impressed. The profile is good. The lines are right, and you can tell that the car has been penned very thoughtfully. Nothing's out of balance: the design is as cohesive as a Jag convertible, and that's a special thing.
BUT, it's not remarkable either. It's almost as though some of the pretension about "sport" in the old design has been buffed out. This one is more polished, more relaxed looking, and at a stoplight beside a 350Z, there's no question which one will draw stares. Not sure if this is a good thing for the Mustang.
The rear design is excellent, at least on the open road. It has a kind of "Ferrari" to it that's difficult to put into words.
p.s. He also said we have more orders than we can build.
I personally like the looks, but I will be hanging on to my '02. I do note that the Mustang seems to be getting bigger and bigger since the Foxes, which recalls what happened the first time around. I wonder if this fact, combined with rising gas prices, is going to give us a (gasp) 2008 Mustang II... : (
I dunno.....have you checked out some of the feverish anticipation going on in the '05 Honda Odyssey thread?
I've got a '66 Fastback and have always had a soft spot for the 1st gen Stangs. I'll be in the market for a new car in the next 2-3 years and will probably look hard at the new ones. But, currently my wife and I are in the market for a minivan so I've been checking out the Siennas and any news regarding the upcoming Odyssey. Based on the activity on the future Odyssey board vs. what I've seen in here, you guys aren't even close....
It's funny how edmunds caters to two distinct types of people...the performance car types and the value types. I'm imaging that Odyssey discussion is more toward the value end of the spectrum.
Ummmm....YES. Boy, was THAT ever a stretch...8^)
Hey guys, just a little trolling on my part; no need to get all worked up. I guess I was more amused at the fever that they seem to be in over in that thread (over 1350 posts about a future MINIVAN?), while you guys are claiming to be at the center of the automotive and public community.
Ok ok, I'll contribute something constructive: I remember in '92 when the new GM F-bodies were being anticipated; the thinking was that they would finally end the Mustang dominance. After all, they had swoopy new styling and performance far above the Mustang. R.I.P. Cambirds. What happened? They cost too much, the quality was suspect, and the Mustang was more 'practical'(?). I just hope that Ford learned something from GM; it takes more than terrific styling and performance, especially in an age with gas heading towards $2.50/gal....of course, being the ONLY surviving pony car doesn't hurt.
Still, better to have your car on the cover of "Hot Rod" magazine than "Consumer Reports"... ; )
Worst part re no F-bodies is a lack of competition for Ford. Mustang works best when there's an independent benchmark. Hopefully, GM will bring back the Camaro (maybe in a retro-inspired 1969 look??) soon...
I also wouldn't use this thread to measure the enthusiasm for the next Mustang. Search the web for other Mustang forums and you'll then see the buzz it hath wrought.
1. I know. Too bad you couldn't see my grin as I was scribing my last reply.
2. LOL!......ain't that the truth...
3. On a serious note; yeah, competition is always good. WTF is GM thinking killing the Camaro and giving us the.....SSR??? That's just what we need; a retro-styled convertible interpretation of the El Camino....
baggs32 - regarding rising fuel prices: hmmmmm, I hope so. But rising fuel prices can (and will) do a number on the state of the economy which could lead to a loss of disposable income. And THAT may be more of a problem than just the price at the pump.
And regarding buzz on the new Mustang: I could say the same regarding forums on the next Odyssey. Personally, I don't give a rat's behind what the "buzz" is on a new car. "Buzz" doesn't get me excited. "Buzz" can be manufactured. There's usually lots of "buzz" associated with the latest Hollywood premiere, or latest book from a political insider, or upcoming computer game. Usually, it's all a load of horse hockey.
I'll get excited when I can lay my eyes on one, I can sit my butt in the seat, I can crank up that V8, and I put one in my driveway. Otherwise, you're just being excited about being excited.
Peace guys...8^)
The Mustang generates a certain interest here in the U.S. that few other cars do or have ever done. It's a genuine slice of Americana that transcends class and social lines. From the very beginning, it's generated an amazing amount of interest. Just look at the hoopla over the 1994 model...and that was just a stopgap work-over of the then current car.
For 40 years, people have gotten worked up about Mustangs. In 5 years or fewer, minivans are all but forgotten.
Akirby is right that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I'd bet that most people will love the 05 Mustang.
It had kind of a hunkered down look that makes it look mean and fast even when sitting still.
Take that as you will but that's what he supposedly said. Maybe they'll keep working on it and it will appear in future copies.