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Diesel trucks are nothing like modern diesel cars. Domestic trucks are old technology. The new common rail diesels are a world apart from the current crop of domestic diesel trucks.
America only gets old diesel technology. You might as well compare a Model T Ford to a new Lamborghini. It's that big a difference.
Hybrids certainly have their place but IMO diesels do as well and diesel fuel is higher because of taxes on the fuel. Where I lived overseas diesel was significantly cheaper. There are enough in congress who want to add a 50 cent tax onto regular gas because of fuel efficient cars. Less fuel sold = less taxes.
So RUG is going to go up eventually. Diesel might end up being cheaper since they are hitting diesel with higher taxes already.
Example: Toyota Tundra rated highly with most ball's full red during first 3 years. After the fourth year the same ball's may be half red or even black.
By the time the manufacturers change the model (5yrs), CR has the real statistics, or more reliable information available to better rate the car. At this point your researching a used car not a new one.
Another good example is the VW Passat and the Ford Taurus.
Passat was the "it" family car in the late 90's and rated very high at that time. If you look at the CR reports in the early 2000's, the same car is not recommended and is rated poorly for all kinds of electrical issues, etc.
Taurus, enough said.
CR is good for an airplane ride or sitting on the porch!
Good points. I was trying to express the fact that if you purchased an 2002 Passat in 2002, CR would have stated the car was bullet proof by the information you mentioned. In this case, based on the CR report, you buy the car. Fast forward to 2005 and the CR rates the 2002 Passat as good but unreliable. 2009 CR reports the car to be very unreliable and almost all the categories are now colored BLACK instead of RED.
I'm just saying, I've bought numerous cars in my life and each one was considered a good buy, based on CR and like publications. Only to find that the CR report has or is on the decline for that particular year and model based on the latest information.
It's a crap shoot.
Keep in mind also that CR's rankings of cars are separate from their predicted reliability scores. So a car can score well in CR's tests and be highly ranked, as the Passat has been for the past 10 years, but not have a great reliability record. Also, a car can start out being reliable, and not hold up over time. That isn't CR's fault, it's just the way it is. Don't shoot the messenger.
In My Prius
I would love to see the Japanese and Korean companies offer diesel motors in their vehicles. These modern diesel engines are great. You cannot lose using a hybrid or diesel for better fuel economy and less pollution. Also plug in electric cars would be great also except for the initial high cost of buying them.
i dont mean to break up your diesel rants but my prius gets 85mpg with this new setup i just got from www.electrotorque.com you cant put it on a diesel though bummer really....Mac
On a tank by tank basis that's a random filling variance IMO. The only way to get a real solid number is to keep track of gallons pumped and miles driven over a good long period of time...3 to 6 months at least. A better idea would be to keep records over 1 to 2 years.
The original poster posted MPH and meant MPH. He's talking, I think, about the difference in speed reported by his GPS and his speedometer.
There is a legal requirement that speedometers should not read slow and within a certain percentage of actual speed. A 2 MPH error at 50 MPH sounds perfectly reasonable to me.
6 months behind your post, but i am sending that video to all the prius owners i know.
LOL! is all i can say.
In it I tell the somewhat amusing and embarrassing story of my trying to find and buy a Prius in the summer of 2006 when they were pretty hard to come by here in New England. You can learn more about it at our Facebook fan page, amazon.com, or www.carjacked.org. I'd welcome any feedback you have if you get a chance to read it.
http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=30919&id=30656
41mpg with the jetta wagon and 39mpg with and auto transmission. Plus I'd take the reliability of a toyota over a VW any day.
Which makes e best sense--the Three, Four or V?
And is this a car at it makes more sense to lease, or buy (with the 1.9% financing)?
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"Current hybrids are not designed for 10-15 years of relatively trouble free service. Toyota builds cars like that, just not the hybrids. When I see a 10 year old Prius II still running with no major problems I will come over to your side of thinking."
Does that hold true for Prius 1 longevity? Because I see 10+ year-old First Gen Prius cars all over Phoenix running fine.
I think it's time for a "mea culpa" on your part and admit that you were wrong in doubting Toyota's technology and the batteries and the idea of the Prius in general.
Waiting...... :shades: :shades: :shades: :shades: :shades:
Anyone have recommendations on after market seat supports for the Prius?
On the wheels... Anyone out there with the 17 switch to the regular 15 or try 16 for a more comfortable ride ? Time to have some cheese with all my whining' and buy some new wheels. Cheers
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No problem with the plastic tabs, except for them flying around while removing the liners and keeping them in place reinstalling the liners.
Hope this helps,
Bioman
we put on about 18000 miles. What would the advantages and disadvantages in getting the Vehicle Service Agreement for about $2000. We had it on the last vehicle and did not really use it. We had no problems in the 4 years we had it. Thanks for any advice.
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