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Technicians spent days trying to define and remedy the problem. They were unsuccessful. The corporation says the car is operating within normal standards.
Any similar experience out there?
Thanks
I have an '01 740il with 116k miles. According to the diognostical electrical test when my car was last in the shop, I need a passenger control arm bushing. I have not yet needed to replace any of the bushings, however I did replace a tie-rod on this side of the car while it was under the extended warrenty at approx. 90k. My Kumho tires (never purchase again) are worn on the inside of both the passenger side tires. However, they probably still have 10k of life on them.
What would be the estimated time to complete this project, since all places charge by the hour? Could there be another issue that the system failed to diagnose relative to the tire? Would you recommend replacing any other parts in the process?
I have noticed that my car does "shimmy" at speeds around 50 mph, I hope that replacing the bushing would resolve the issue. If I would put new tires on the car, would you also recommend an allignment? Could I get the new tires and allignment at a future service date?
Thanks for your input!
The car is still under warranty, and they have done some reprogramming, but it has not worked. Has anyone else experienced this? I think I might need some transmission parts replaced, but I think they are holding off because I have 83,000 miles and the warranty is up in January '09.
Here's a TSB on the subject:
SI B 24 17 07
Automatic Transmission
July 2007
Technical Service
SUBJECT
Harsh 3-2 and/or 2-1 Downshifts
MODEL
E65 and E66 (7 Series) 745i and 745Li with N62 and GA6HP26Z transmission
Vehicles from SOP up to 03/2005
SITUATION
IMPORTANT :Depending on the production date of the vehicle; there are different situations, and corrective measures, that must be carefully followed. Running production changes in vehicle hardware and software divide these situations into three distinct production periods.
A. For vehicles produced from SOP up to and including 02/2003:
^ Harsh 3-2 and / or 2-1 downshift when slowing to a stop
^ Harsh downshift when accelerating at highway speeds
^ "Clunk" noise during a 2-1 downshift while driving slowly to a rolling stop, or during load reversal as described in SI B24 14 07 and SI B26 01 06.
B. For vehicles produced from 03/2003 up to and including 08/2003
^ "Clunk" noise during 2-1 downshift while driving slowly to a rolling stop, or during load reversal as described in SI B24 14 07 and SI B26 01 06.
C. For vehicles produced from 09/2003 up to and including 02/2005
^ Harsh 3-2 downshift when slowing to a stop
^ "Clunk" noise during a 2-1 downshift while driving slowly to a rolling stop, or during load reversal as described in SI B24 14 07 and SI B26 01 06.
CAUSES
EGS software calibration
Driveshaft guibo coupling deterioration for "clunk" noise complaints
CORRECTION
For Situation A: Harsh downshift complaints
1. Verify that the transmission fluid level is correct.
2. Perform a "Short test" and correct all Drivetrain related faults first.
3. Submit a Puma case titled "Coasting Jolt" to obtain the access code needed to complete the retrofit reprogramming of the EGS module.
4. Start a Progman session using only V26.1.1 or higher and select "Coasting Jolt" from the retrofit options menu. The measures plan should indicate a higher programmed number and an EGS calibration change.
5. Clear the EGS adaptations after programming is completed.
For "clunk" noise complaints, vehicles produced 10/2002 up to and including 02/2003, inspect the driveshaft guibo coupling for deterioration or separation as described in SI B24 14 07.
For Situation B: "Clunk" noise complaints
1. Verify the complaint
On vehicles produced from 03/2003 up to and including 08/2003 the only repair is to inspect the driveshaft guibo coupling for deterioration or separation as described in SI B24 14 07.
Note :There are not any further EGS software changes for vehicles in this production period. For Situation
For Situation C: Harsh 3-2 downshift complaints
1. Verify that the transmission fluid level is correct.
2. Perform a "Short test" and correct all Drivetrain related faults first.
3. Submit a Puma case titled "Urban Program" to obtain the access code needed to complete the retrofit reprogramming of the EGS module.
4. Start a Progman session using only V26.1.1 or higher and select "Urban Program" from the retrofit options menu. The measures plan should indicate a higher programmed number and an EGS calibration change.
5. Clear the EGS adaptations after programming is completed.
For "clunk" noise complaints, vehicles produced 09/2003 up to and including 02/2005, inspect the driveshaft guibo coupling for deterioration or separation as described in SI B24 14 07.
WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.
Please refer to the latest KSD for all applicable labor operations and allowances.
If the appropriate labor operation is not contained in KSD, then a work time labor operation should be used.
Defect Code 24 00 39 61 00
I am taking it back the dealer next week. They have always done a great job on my vehicle and I have always been pleased with their excellent service. But the vehicle has been in twice on this issue. Hopefully they can resolve it this time.
I have had this vehicle for five years and I have to say that I love the engine, the handling, and the comfort. But this one thing spoils it all, especially when you have a new passenger and they say, "what was that!".
I have had my 1998 740i for 6.5 years. At 75,00 miles it needs another brake job, both front and rear, however I don't want to pay the dealer the high $$'s, approx 1100.00 for the job. Anyone have a good experience having it done by someone else than the dealer and what price?
Many thanks!
Mike
Sure, shop around but stay away from chain stores. You don't want Chinese pie plate rotors trying to stop a locomotive. Quality German parts, please.
5 key items
metric hex driver is needed (easy to buy)
Use only Greman rotors (chinese rotors warp trust me
need a flat bar and big c clamp to pull back the pucks
replace the electronic sensor
total cost with german rotors should be in the $800 - I enjoy it for 1100 and Germany Rotors you may want them to do it
Mike
The public library may have this.
I'm sure would give you some free advice! :P
I have the same car, and same problem, only SOMETIMES the radio works, sometimes not, (mostly not lately).
I bought a replacement (used) radio and swapped it out and NOTHING.
Did you ever find out the cause?
Has anyone here had theirs replaced?
Thanks in advance!
Mike
You might find this TSB interesting:
GROUP 18
Exhaust Systems
Bulletin Number
18 01 99
Woodcliff Lake, NJ
September 1999
Product Engineering
This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. 18 01 99 dated August 1999 which should be removed and discarded from your S.I. binder.
SUBJECT:
Unnecessary Catalytic Converter Replacements
MODEL:
E36 with M44 engine from 1/96 prod.
Z3 with M44 engine from 10/96 prod.
E36 with M52, 852 engines from 10/95 prod.
E46 with M52 engine from 6/98 prod.
E39 with M52 engine from 3/96 prod.
Z3 with M52, 852 engines from 1/96 prod.
E38, E39, E31 with M62 engine from 1/96 prod.
E38, E31 with M73 engine from 1/95 prod.
Situation:
Analysis of returned catalytic converters has proven that some converters are not defective and are replaced unnecessarily.
The reason for unnecessary converter replacements may be due to the misfire fault code(s) in conjunction with the statement "catalyst damaging" being stored in the Engine Control Module (ECM/DME).
Example:
Fault Codes 63 - 70: "Cylinder misfire detected - catalyst damaging"
If a vehicle is found with the "Check Engine" lamp on and one or more misfire faults are stored in the engine control module, the fault code description "cylinder X misfire detected - catalyst damaging" will be displayed on the diagnosis fault survey of the DIS or MoDIC.
The qualifier "catalyst damaging" is a reminder that this type of fault (cylinder misfire) may over time cause damage to the catalytic converter if it is not repaired.
Troubleshooting cylinder faults should be carried out using the DIS or MoDIC i.e. check secondary ignition system, etc.
A catalytic converter should not be replaced automatically when a - catalyst damaging" fault code is stored in the Engine Control Module.
A catalytic converter replacement is only necessary if fault codes 40, 45 or 233 (E9 hex), 234 (EA hex) are stored in the Engine Control Module which are catalytic converter efficiency or conversion faults and/or if a customer complaint of an audible rattle noise coming from the converter is verified.
I would appreciate to hear your repair experiences from 100K-250K for the 95-01 7-series generation.
If you have the red mist in your eyes and you MUST have it (I understand, I've done this many times) then by all means have it thoroughly examined at a repair shop prior to purchase, and pay particular attention to the cooling system (cracked upper or lower radiator necks!!, worn water pump, fan clutch failure---common) exhaust systems, condition of brake rotors (not turnable, you replace them and they aren't cheap), control arm bushings front, torn subframe bushings rear, electrical glitches and malfunctions (such as strange warning lights, windows not working, AC/Heat irregularities, power seat malfunction, poorly soldered electrical relays, especially headlights), rough idle at start up (vacuum leaks) excessive tie rod wear, weak struts or shocks (they are only good for about 60K on a 7 series of this vintage) torn flex disc in driveshaft, leaky valve cover gaskets, clogged pollen filter (gives weak AC and heat flow), very dirty automatic transmission fluid leading to shifting problems.
Other than that....... :P
I no longer have the window sticker that came on the car.
Is it possible to get a re-print of the original from BMW? If not,
I would love to find someone with the same car who has their
original, that would copy/scan and sell it to me.
Mine is Cashmere Beige Metallic.
Please reply,
Steve
http://www.bmwcca.org/
Yesterday I bought a 06 750li silver 36k miles, conv pkg, comfort access, luxury seating pkg, logic 7 for $41,800 out the door and in good condition previously registered as corporate fleet vehicle. Please share your opinions on this deal. Also please give me your opinion on if the car has been abused by previous owner(which I really cant tell if it has been) how will it hold up for the next 100k miles. Will 36k miles of revving engine make a difference to the car? It drives perfectly smooth right now.
Thank You
Saying that a light "should come on" is not an answer. They should be looking for a code regardless.
Wide and sudden fluctuations in engine timing would be a pretty spooky thing--that would be throwing all kinds of codes then.
It's kind of hard without driving the car myself. I didn't buy the Vanos idea either.
I have friends who have Toyota, Nissan ect and they are much less to maintain. Do they feel as good when you close the door, no. Why can't BMW engineer cars that don't cost a ton to maintain? You see a lot of people with Honda Accords with 150K miles and they run strong and have not needed much re: repairs.
If it's so easy to program why didn't the dealer do it? And I never heard of "re-programming" to correct a blank screen.
You might check with the BMW dealer to see if there are software updates on CD. Maybe that'll help?
You apparently need (according to my book) the Software CD V17.0 inserted into the Navigation computer (the CD-ROM V17.0 bears the P/N 01 59 9 789 299 Index "u"). There is a step by step procedure for installing this upgrade and also getting the radio to work.
If your dealer hinted that all you had to do was press a few buttons---well, lotsa luck.
BUYER BEWARE!!!
You might consider taking the dealer to small claims court if you think he misrepresented the car to you. The term "AS IS" does not relieve anyone of the consequences of misrepresentation per se, especially a licensed dealer. I'd try to hit the dealer up for 50-50 on this one if the purchase was fairly recent. If you bought the car 6 months ago, forget what I said. You own it now.
Actually for a 745 model it's only $300...that's not bad at all. My Porsche 928 was $1200 bucks.
This 740i only has 70K miles and is otherwise in great shape. I might give the JB Weld a try. The independent shop also said the radiator was "a couple hundred bucks".
One thought for owners with power steering hose issues - while hoses may go bad, a leak might not necessarily be because the hose is bad. My BMW dealer said the hoses needed to be replaced, but I looked closer and one of the hoses was leaking from the top end (and running down the hose). Turns out the clamp was deteriorating. Thanks, BMW dealer.
Ironically, I also had a 928. Unlike the 7-series, nothing was reasonably priced, especially the torque tube. I got tired of the timing belt triggering the warning light and dumped it. Not knowing if it was really worn/loose was just too stressful.
If not I guess it's a new radiator.
Oh, well this must be the reason that a flawless 06 750i is now worth less than 40K.
And it's not $500 a month. With the worst of luck, maybe $250 a month out of warranty. Still cheaper than buying a new Yaris.
I wanted to pose to the community if there is a common problem with these symptons. It very well could be and probably is a fuel filter or pump or something of the sort, but was wondering if anyone had any info. I did not run out of gas, and all of the electrical components outside of the hood are working fine, but I have not tested anything under the hood yet.
Anything would be helpful,
Thanks
I've had very few problems since the warranty ran out June 2002. This radiator leak is the first in awhile. I bought the two year old car for $41.5K in 2000 with 13.6K miles on it, and could easily sell it for $10K now. So from my perspective it's cost me about $31K in depreciation plus $3K in maintenance and repairs. Not bad, IMO, for 8.5 years of driving the best. I would admit that the equation is more expensive if you buy one new due to the rapid depreciation the first couple years. But the flip side is that you can buy a fabulous used car at a good price due to that depreciation.
Those repair CDs generally aren't any good, if they're the $9.95 variety. That's a kind way of putting it. CRAP would be more like it.
You may need to invest in something better.
http://www.bimmerzone.com/bmwproducts.htm#38
Well worth it for the DIYer. That and a hand-held scanner and a service light reset tool.
What do you mean by, still cheaper than buying a new yaris :confuse:
Soooooo even though it SEEMS like you might be spending a good deal on your out of warranty luxurious great handling 7 series, you STILL couldn't buy much of a new car for the same money.
I trust this clarifies my obscure prose.
Soooooo even though it SEEMS like you might be spending a good deal on your out of warranty luxurious great handling 7 series, you STILL couldn't buy much of a new car for the same money.
Well, at least the Yaris will keep you away from a workshop for at least 3 years, it wont get you stranded in the middle of nowhere.
I've read so many bad reviews about the x6, even from people I know who work for bmw, its hard for me to buy and trust a brand new bmw for reliability issues. I don't want to get worried about my new car engine being over heated on a long drive and be stuck in an unknown place in the middle of nowhere.
A used bmw seems to be out of the question, at least for me.
Thank for the quick reply