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Thats cool.............enjoy !
BTW: I traded my 01 2500 x-cab 4x4 for another 04 2500 Chevy recently.........
BTW "Ford" is spelled with a CAPITAL
Did you go with the Duramax?
Yes, I agree emphatically with the reliance on M1911A1 rather than 911. Especially since I've seen the 911 response fail. Intertestingly, my son has just returned from Iraq where, in his particular role must carry a sidearm -- he sports a 92M. Since I at one time owned one of those, too, I couldn't help but wish he still could have access to a 1911. It would make me feel better, anyway!
Bests,
Dusty
The Toyota Tacoma, a consistently popular compact pickup, was second with shoppers for the second quarter of the year. A sporty truck with nostalgic styling, the all-new Chevrolet SSR was third on the list.
The list of the ten most popular pickups on MSN Autos is based on visits to the site's vehicle research pages during the second quarter, April through June, of the year. Here is the complete list:
1. Ford F-150
Ford's half-ton pickup line is redesigned for 2004 with a stronger, bolder look and five distinct versions: XL, STX, XLT, FX4 and Lariat, each with unique styling. Regular Cab and SuperCab versions are six inches longer and the Regular Cab adds rear-hinged panels to access behind-seat storage. The complete F-Series line has been the best-selling truck in America for 26 straight years and the best-selling vehicle overall for 21 years.
2. Toyota Tacoma
The Tacoma is in its sixth generation and is now available in Regular Cab, extended Xtracab and 4-door Double Cab configurations. For 2004 Vehicle Stability Control is available as an option on PreRunner and 4-wheel-drive trims with V6 engines. The current Tacoma was designed in the U.S. and is built in the New United Motor Manufacturing, Inc. factory in Fremont, Calif.
3. Chevrolet SSR
The SSR is a sporty two-seat pickup that takes its styling cues from Chevrolet trucks of the 1940s, but includes a thoroughly modern power-retractable hardtop for open-air driving. Powered by a 300-horsepower version of the legendary small-block Chevy V8, the SSR design features large flared fenders and a wide stance, punctuated by 19-inch wheels and tires at the front and 20-inch meats at the rear.
4. Ford Ranger
Another popular compact truck with MSN shoppers, the Ranger's updates for 2004 include a raised power dome hood, a nostril grille with horizontal bars on 2WD trims, a honeycomb grille on 4WD trims, a new front valance, a rally gauge cluster, and Ford-style steering wheel.
5. Dodge Ram 1500
The Ram 1500 was redesigned with bolder, distinctive Dodge styling for 2002, and the famous HEMI name returned to the line late in 2003 with the 345-horsepower 5.7-liter HEMI Magnum engine. For 2004 the Laramie adds a chrome grille surround, a chrome billet grille center, chrome moldings, silver interior trim, and a unique leather seat design with contrasting colors.
6. Chevrolet Silverado 1500
The Silverado replaced Chevrolet's C/K pickup line with all-new styling for 1999. For 2004 a new half-ton 1500 Crew Cab is added. All Silverado 1500 trims now include cruise control, power door locks, a chrome bumper and an AM/FM/CD audio system.
7. Chevrolet Colorado
The Colorado is Chevrolet's all-new midsize pickup that replaces the S-10 for 2004. The Colorado is larger and stronger than the S-10 and offers Regular Cab, Extended Cab and Crew Cab versions. Power comes from two new engines: the Vortec 2800 inline 4-cylinder and the Vortec 3500 inline 5-cylinder, both derived from the Vortec 4200 inline 6-cylinder.
8. Dodge Dakota
The midsize Dakota continues to be popular, with a Stampede package offered for 2004 including monochromatic front and rear fascia moldings, ground-effect side moldings, 16-inch aluminum wheels, wheel flares and a rear stabilizer bar. The new 2005 Dakota is due this fall with a bigger, bolder look, following the design direction of the Ram.
9. Toyota Tundra
Toyota's full-size Tundra received updated styling for 2003 and the Stepside Access Cab was added. The Tundra Double Cab debuts for 2004. This year Toyota focused on rear-seat comfort—a rear-seat DVD entertainment system is offered. The Tundra Double Cab features one of the longest beds available for a double cab half-ton truck.
10. Nissan Titan
The first full-size pickup from Nissan, the 2004 Titan offers a fresh alternative in the category. Titan features bold styling with available King Cab and Crew Cab trims, powered by a 305-horsepower 5.6-liter V8 with a 5-speed automatic transmission. A unique feature is a factory-installed Utili-track tie-down system in the bed. The Titan was conceived, developed and engineered primarily in North America and is produced at Nissan's new facility in Canton, Mississippi.
FORD MOTOR COMPANY PRESS RELEASE
DEARBORN, Mich., May 19 – The 2004 Ford F-150 truck today captured another major honor – “Truck Interior of the Year” at the Auto Interiors Show in Detroit.
“This is a fantastic honor for our design team,” said Pat Schiavone, design director, Ford North American Truck. “Our designers spent months listening to customers and pouring over research to give truck owners the comfort, craftsmanship, versatility and features they want and deserve.”
More than 5,400 automotive industry executives selected the Ford F-150 to win the award based on its overall interior design, functionality and vehicle innovation. Other finalists in the truck competition included the BMW X3, Chevrolet SSR, Dodge Durango Limited, and the Nissan Armada. The Auto Interiors Show held at Cobo Conference Center is the largest industry event in the world dedicated exclusively to car and truck interiors.
Today's award brings to 30 the number of awards the Ford F-150 has received since its introduction, including the 2004 North American, Motor Trend and Texas Auto Writers “Truck of the Year” plus Car and Driver Magazine 2004 Five Best Trucks - Best Pickup.
Since the launch of the new F-150 last September, Ford has posted eight consecutive months of F-Series sales increases. For more than 55 years, F-Series has delivered on its Built Ford Tough heritage. F-Series has been America’s best-selling truck for 27 years and the country’s best-selling vehicle for 22 years in a row.
Now Ford's got it right and I love the rack and pinion steering...now if we can just get them to stuff more ponies under the hood.
Actually I've heard they're offering a 6.2L V8 for 2006. I just couldn't wait another year (or more)
"You only have to do a very few things right in your life so long as you don't do too many things wrong."
~ Warren Buffett
Seems more realistic to compare Titan to Ryan. Highly praised for his ability when he had no history.
Ford has had the most popular truck for quite a few years.
"Only time can tell. If Nissan Titan is still drivable in 20 years..." A lot of people are praising the unproven Titan like the unproven Ryan Leaf.
"Truck interrior of the year" is one of the better jokes I have heared in a while. I guess
DVD player in a truck is more important than it's ground clearence or tow rating.
When you get right down to it, all this team and brand identification gets a little peculiar and, often and easily swerves into the extreme. I bought my truck because it had what I wanted. I looked at the other alternatives in it's class and decided it met my personal criteria better than the others (including but not exclusively the interior). A different criteria could have put me into a different brand. Perfect in every way? Hardly. I'm aware of its short-comings. But, why do I tend to whence when someone points them out? Is it true or false? Or criticize the brand in general? It's not honor or integrity at steak. It's just a truck, or a team, or a sneaker. Very peculiar. Hmm, do ya think marketing gurus have learned to exploit this tendency?
-David
Buying a truck to meet your personal criteria? How would it be if everybody just bought what met thier preferences? We would'nt need salespeople. There would be a lot less advertising and we wouldn't know how badly we need something we don't have. Without comercials there would be no network TV. Everybody would have to pay for the channels we actually watch and we'd never know how bad our health is. And worst of all the econamy would be ruined.
I'm going to go now and take my Nexium and Prozac and "chug" my fiber before it gets gritty.
kip
-David
Leg room issues with Ford & chevy. I also own a 2001 Super crew F-150 that my wife drives. It has more room in the back seat area than my Silverado x-tra cab
i simply stated that, since the f150 is the best selling vehicle, its natural that it got more hits than the rest.
In sociology it's referred to as "tribalism," and in general product allegiance appears to be most acute in the Canadian-American culture.
Although representing the "extreme," people have died or been injured because of automobile brand loyalty.
Regards,
Dusty
San Diego is still paying that guys pay check...
Tom Arnold, of Fox Sports Net's Best Damn Sports Show Period, during the "Things you wouldn't say to.... segment, said this about Warren Sapp: "Hey, Warren, the Raiders signed you to a seven-year deal. I guess Bill Callahan was right --- they are the dumbest team in America."
BTW "interrior of the year" is part of what makes MY F150 a yuppie truck. The GMC 3/4 ton hualed over 3000lb and was still comfortable enough.(Except empty)
This truck may cause me to trade-in...
"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
Yuppies buy import/foriegn cars NISSAN, LEXUS, BMW, TOYOTA, VW cause they think it is cool/status. For example, the Nissan Titans is not expected to do any type work or go off-road. Look at some of the exterior color options, Sedona, Deep Water, Copper....
Good interior for the high end version of the F150 is for us old guys that need A.C. and good seats but still need to get some work done. Big differance between the XL/XLT and Lariet/FX4.
I do not see any Nissan Titans with tool boxes or cargo carriers. The only use of their 4x4 is a possible rain shower going to the grocery store.
"I had rather be right than be President."
"Good luck on this one now!"
My F150 is not expected to do any type of work either. If it was I'd have kept the 3/4 ton.
I used to deer hunt and hual firewood with my '95 Taco. Hy hunting partner still uses his Nissan Fronteer. I wouldn't think of taking a full sized truck off road unless you're talking about those dirt roads my wife's Mustang can drive.
Boomer; Neither, stick with them big trucks for workin now. That F250 does but you don't get that yuppie interrior like them Chevy ones do.
good luck
2. You are good candidate for a Nissan Titan.
3. Also, it is you that can't take full sized truck off road. This is an ability/skill set issue.
4. "There are two categories of [full-size] pickup customers, traditional and modern buyers,” said Larry Dominique, chief product specialist for Titan. “The traditional buyers are the classic, rural buyers that were highly brand-loyal and bought millions of trucks. The modern buyers are those suburban families who wanted pickups for driving to work, towing boats, and for modern suburban lifestyles. We’re primarily aiming at the modern yuppie buyers, because we know, going in, that a large segment of traditional buyers won’t consider us, initially.”
Larry Dominique is dreaming on the "initially" statement.
"Be true to yourself"
2. Drove one. Didn't like it.
3.Hahahahahahahah
4 I guess I swing both ways. At work I have a 2 ton Isuzu a 2 ton Ford a one ton Chevy and a half ton Dodge. Off road it's been Toyotas whenever the Jeep (my first "car") is torn down.
The F150 gets my boat to the lake, my raft to the river and my Jeep to the trail.
For working I'll bring one of the shop trucks home. I trashed the GMC in 3 years and 50k mi
Titan..NO !
For Nissan to build a new vehicle and do this well in its first year is a statement...and should motivate Ford to improve the F150.
Edmunds new article on the "long term" test of the Titan is another great review.
As for being a "yuppie" truck versus a "serious" truck. Yes, the Titan can go offroad but "serious" offroaders probably want something with higher clearence. But how many owners of pick-up trucks actually go offroading? Not many. Just like most SUVs, most trucks spend 90% of their time on asphalt.
And if you are offended by the Titan, just get ready for the Frontier that debuts this fall with the same chrome face.
"Are you better off now than you were four years ago?"
Every year for the last 50. What have you got to loose?
sales-wise, the nissan has increased every month since the launch in december. the goal was ~8k units per month, and they are right there.
Nissan did make a very good first effort and '05 should improve the quality concerns.
Both are first year models as the F150 was completely redesigned for '04. First year models are notorious for having problems that are worked out by consumers like GM's Allison transmission and Duramax diesel engine. For a first year model Ford seems to have very fow complaints.
The only complaints were options not offered such as a trailer hitch, limited slip rear.
A few others were not enough power, small cabin,
tiny towing capicity.
The statement on trucks that do not go offroad is dependant on the region in which you live.
Finally, one thing I like about Fords is the modifications that can be done with the truck.
New Ford is slightly lacking in power but not much else.
Offroad? To me, there is a max length and width and a minimum approach, departure and breakover angle as well as minimum ramp travel index to be considered an off road vehicle. A friend of mine saw someone with a retired military Humm-vee attempting the Eirshm (Dusy) trail in the central Sierras. He told the poor misguided soul that his vehicle was too big for the trail which got a rude response. Later, several members of his Jeep club, with several wenches and come-alongs helped extract the remains of the hummer from between a boulder and tree.
Yes there are different kinds of off road driving but as my neighbor's extermely lifted Chevy's license plate reads; 2HI24BY
The F150 was completely redesigned for '04 including internal changes in the engine and transmission, all new front suspension and rack and pinion steering, one and a half inch wider stance, the list goes on and on.
Nissan did a great job in thier first effort in a full sized truck and no doubt will work on the minor flaws.
On the other hand Ford did a superb job of re-designing thier half ton truck to perform better in every way than thier privious model with surprisingly few first year problems. Ford's having a privious model to re-design was an advantage and Nissan is clearly here to stay, but this year any percieved advantage for Nissan is pretty superficial.
You think the F150 is just too flashy? I think the same about the Titan. Even when they get the bugs worked out I couldn't own something that looks so much like a Honda Element with added chrome.
JBA Headers & Exhaust System is my next project.
Now I know better than go through trails marked for jeeps only.
Has anybody taken there Titan off-road? Or are you turning it into a minivan.
"Whether you think that you can, or that you can't, you are usually right."
Titan
I yuppie Titan, take you valley girl Frontier, to be my wedded truck. To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness or in health, to love and to cherish 'till death do us part. And hereto I pledge you my faithfulness.
Frontier
I, valley girl Frontier, take you manly man yuppie Titan, to be my wedded truck. To have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, to love and to cherish, 'till death do us part. And hereto I pledge you my faithfulness.
Now manly man yuppie Titan hook up tow package to valley girl Frontier
and consider yourself one....
NO getup/grunt at low RPMS where ya need it in a truck esp. a automatic.
When Ford came out with them esp. the 4.6 in the big Excursions there were many beefs about being gutless so the 5.4 was the only choice.
Kills me when folks beef about pushrod motors...
They must not know any better.......
"I went from 10+ to under 9 mpg on my GMC when I increased tire size 2."
When you increased your tire size, did you get your speedometer re-programmed?
With an increase in tire size, won't the odometer read fewer miles than what you actually traveled, thus giving you a perceived drop in mpg?