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On the constructive side of things - one thing you may want to try. Power down the truck by disconnecting the battery for a few minutes. Sometimes the Body Control Module can take a lightning hit of sorts and a power clear can straighten stuff like this out for you. It reset the power liftgate on mine once when it quit working.
I'll give the battery suggestion a try. Thanks for your input
Antonio
Thought about getting a replacement for my lemon, but I am so leery of Navigators now. I had such a great experience with my '00 Navigator, too, that I automatically assumed I would have the same experience with this '03. No such luck.
I wish you lots of luck in having Ford buy back your lemon.
They said this was the 5th navigator in this week with the same problem. Ford had a "Service Recall" out on this because some navigators got some bad coils. The coil went out, which in turn caused the driver side heads to go out. Was told if repairs cost over $2200.00 they will put in new motor. I was so satisfied with that. But 2 weeks later. They say everything was fixable under $2200.00. So I get fixed heads. I have the running board problems , they say it was fixed. But they still dont come out everytime. I really love my navigator. I just hope the next owner dont have the same problems with it when I trade it in next week. I am almost out of warrenty so I have to get rid of any problems, which means bye bye truck.
Furthermore, warped rotors at 27000 miles is not that uncommon for big, heavy vehicles. Especially depending on how one drives and uses the brakes. Do you pull a trailer with it? As for your Navigator starting to "skip", I would've waited for it to also hop and jump before taking it to service.
The rest of your story is, well, no more sensical. Tech knew that engine would blow in 200 more miles? Ask him for stock market picks, will ya? This one shop had 5 Navigators with 'almost blown engines' in ONE week? Most dealers probably don't see a total of 5 Navigators period in one week. Coil goes out and causes HEAD to go out? What are you talking about?
And to nvbanker: You "assume" which engine this Nav has? Gee, what optional engines were available?
Just like you, George, I'm checking for some credibility, to see if anything adds up here...... Something smells....
Make sense that they had so many in the shop area, I still have not gotten mine back, as promised on monday, now not till friday. 3 weeks ago it got turned in. Iam a builder(houses), so yes I drive ALOT. The poor mercury sable they gave me had 5 miles on it, now 1300. Just in almost 3 weeks. Im a woman i dont pay attenion to motor size sorry.
They claim coil made head go out. They decided to fix heads in stead of new motor.
1. Drivers seat failed right after the dealer installed lo jack and security alarm.
Dealer ordered new parts and fixed the seat.
2. Service department wrecked the car about 10 days after buying it.
$1500 worth of damage, dealer repaired.
3. Passenger running board failed to operate maybe 3 times out of several hundred
openings. The dealer must have known what the problem was because they fixed
it.
4. DVD player failed. Dealer replaced
I currently have 17,000 miles on it. I can understand why it might be so highly rated as unreliable, because it has so many "gadgets" or extras that can go bad.
My nav makes a clunking sound on cold starts. It made the sound from the first few days of owning the vehicle. The service dept advised me the 2004 had a new a/c compressor and that it had a tendency to clunk on cold starts. It clunked several times when we first got the car and seemed to taper off. Truth is it rarely does it, but when it does it catches our attention. Almost a year later and the service department says they have never heard of that problem. I cant find any similar problems noted on the internet as well. Unless it starts happening more often it may never get diagnosed.
Speaking of clunks. I was going down a hill and around a corner probably to fast and we heard a loud clunk as I was making the turn. I was thinking that maybe the loud clunk was the result of the the traction stability device activating.
I too have a 2003 Lincoln Navigator Ultimate. 36000 miles and maintained well. Not beaten on. I Have to date replaced the both sets of brakes. I have had countless problems with the running board. I have the liftgate problems, and the door ajar problems. I have the problems with the mirrors not going back to the correct positions, you cannot set the mirrors to go to the saved locations. The park assist never works, the chilled and heated seats do not work. The DVD player has malfunctioned, and last weekend the transmission stopped working so now I have not had my car since Saturday April 16th. I love the Navigator. But I think I need to hire a lawyer too. Has anyone else lost a transmission?? Let me know
I have an 05' Navi Ultimate with only 1500 Miles and no probs as of yet. I opted to the 40/20/40 2nd Row Seats as I have 2 little ones and a 3rd on the way and did not want to have to put on of the kids in the 3rd Row, all the time.
So, I have fixed running boards, so I wll not experience that issue.
I also found, not sure if others will agree, that the deployable Running Boards sort of got in the way for someone who does not need them, like me, as I am ~6 Foot Tall. Have other had a similar view.
Best wishes getting your Navi fixed or replaced, I hope the 05' is more trouble-free, but I did get the Ford Premium Care Warranty and Full Maintenance to 100K or 6 Years.
factory DVD Player does not work some times and will show Error codes, GPS turns On and Off by it self without touching it.
Driver seat started falling apart so they redid and replaced the upholstery.
Brakes had to be changed twice the car had only 5,000 miles due to vibrations,
Driver seat also was not aligned correctly on the rail and will shift whiles driving they replaced the track.
Electrical lift gate stopped working after the running board module was changed and we were not even able to open it manually, they changed the motors.
Gear Shifter got loose and almost fell off...now that was funny.
Driver Side Mirror stopped folding or it will only fold half way sometimes and it will stop, they had to replace that Mirror Twice and now it makes grinding noise when folding.
=Driver side Speaker by JBL had a static noise so they replaced it but the tech never bothered to test it after fixing it so the problem was not fixed at first time, I took it back to dealer they found a faulty wire from the radio and fixed it.
to make the stories short this is my third Navigator in five years and this 04 Navigator has 12,700 miles on it, I have proof of the running boards falling and I know they cannot deny that since it happened in front of the Service Manager and the Mechanic at the local Lincoln dealer.
Any suggestions... :mad:
Have you considered maybe the setting on the Computer is somehow getting screwed up, as I thought there is an option to turn the running boards off.
As I reported previously, I have the 40/20/40 2nd Row Bench, so I have the fixed running boards, can't get them with the 40/20/40, as I guess the motor for the Deployable Running boards are where the 20 seat mounts.
I've not had near the issues most of the complainants on this board have had, or to the degree they have had. My Gator runs great, engine and transmission are extraordinary. Other issues have been minor. Trucks not perfect like my 99 was, but it's still the best design out there, and if I were to replace it, I'd still get another Navigator I believe.
also my 04 Navigator is an Ultimate in the black monotone, and I do have 40/20/40 2nd Row Bench, with the Running Boards and the motor for the Running Boards is under neath the car right behind the front wheels.
thank you.
I just changed the IAC(idle air control valve) and that didn't help. when i'm at stop lights the vehicle acts like it wants to cut off. runs and sounds real bad when i'm stopped. Any solutions?
Thanks in Advance
Is your 2004 Ultimate a 4X2?
In the 2005 Brochere it says in the Options, I quote:
Running Boards - Power-Deployable (not available with 40/20/40 2nd-row Split on 4x4)
If you have a 2004 4x4 with the 40/20/40, maybe they changed the location of the motor.
I have asked Edmunds and await their answer but thought I would raise the question here too.
I ask because it may speak to a question of bias? I mean, a large 'Problem' list right away may put people off. Yet, if you go to the Infiniti QX56 list, you'll find that the percentage of big time problems with that vehicle seems to be higher than with the Navigator. "Brakes from H*ll" being one major problem.
Anyway, just thought I'd ask.
Last month, I won my case with the Ford Dispute Settlement Board. In my decision with the FDSB, they are not depreciating the vehicle as it was in for 26 days. I currently have 27K miles on it. Ford Dispute Resolution Specialist is working with their audit department to determine the amount I will receive for the "buyback." This part of the process has been extremely upsetting. Dealer got a 3K rebate assigned to him. When they wrote up the purchase contract they did not include the rebate on it.Ford is trying to deduct the 3K from what I paid out of pocket while the dealer laughs all the way to the bank. At this point I am so disgusted with Ford, I'm seriously considering switching to an Escalade and never purchasing a Ford product again. I love my navigator, I just want it to work how it is supposed to. My husband and I were going to stick with a replacement vehicle until all this rebate fiasco began. Ford Dispute Resolution Specialist has been less than helpful. It is now into the 43rd day after the decision. My understanding was that Ford was supposed to "make every effort to resolve this within 30 days." The 2006's will probably be out before this is resolved. When requesting payment history from bank that dealer arranged financing from I was surprised to learn the each month the dealer would get monet transferred from my car payment to them. ex. Payment $457, dealer transfer $111. Sounds kind of "shaky" to me. Buyer beware!!!! Hopefully, Ford will come through with reimbursing me what I paid for my nav and I will not have to pursue the Lemon Law with an attorney. I really loved my navigator, I just want what I paid for
Ford Dispute board has given me the buyback price of my vehicle and I am awaiting the next step with the dealer.
It's been a very long year!!!
Can someone tell where i could find this? dealer says, i would need to replace teh entire window-- which is a bunch of crap b/c there is NOTHING wrong with the window, the moulding simply fell off.
Can someone help me please?? I've been all over the web and can't find anything-- namely b/c i don't know what it is called or a part number.
thank yoou!!
I like the vehicle, but my wife hates it. Too many problems and has the worst radio for reception for any car, let alone a $50,000 + vehicle.
It's really strange how yours can be so terrible, and mine so not. I'm thinking about buying mine out of the lease, I like it so well.......