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Overall build quality is good but not great. I really enjoy this truck a lot and it is nicer than the F-150 even though it is an F-150. The Navigator rides better but the Mark LT is quieter and also rides really great for a truck.
However, if they are pushing these kind of deals for a new one, I suspect the used prices are pie in the sky. Once again, we have a luxury ride whose resale value plummets like a skydiver in freefall.
You are in good company. My favorite sedan, the Audi A8, does the same thing.
I am in the market for a loaded out 4x2 LT with about the same MSRP as you are talking about. I am assuming you got yours in Dallas. Can you tell me which dealership you got yours at? I have only seen black and white up close and in person because that is all they have ever had here in Texarkana. I like black but will never buy b lack again and I do not want white. What is the best other color? Is the red a bright red?
Thanks
The Blackwood could have succeeded if it had had a 4WD option, and the option of an open bed. The LT, however, is just an F150 with a different grill. The 09 F150 is just around the corner. Designing even a badge engineered Lincoln model is likely not worth the investment.
No tears should be shed. If Lincoln wants a truck, design it from next generation's Navigator. Make it innovative, or forget about it.
kcram - Pickups Host
Now, if more people perceived things as you do, Lincoln would not be killing the LT. Or struggling as mightily as it is. Have a nice day.
I already told you that I have driven the LT (and high end F150s) and though I can afford any Lincoln built, I have no interest in owning an F150 with a bit of lipstick and a Lincoln name for that much extra money. If you were truly familiar with how good the F150 is in many ways, you would realize that the LT uses the same body, same interior, exact same engine and transmission, exact same dimensions, and the same quiet steel that you like so well in the LT. Compare apples to apples. F150 comes in lower end and work truck models. Compare the LT to the loaded F150 with the same 5.4 Ford V8 and comparable equipment.
I wager I know more about Lincoln than you, having had a soft spot for the brand since I was a kid...and that was a long, long time ago. The MKZ has not met sales expectations. The MKS is not selling nearly as well as the LS did when it was introduced. The LT is cancelled after this year, and contrary to your claim of a one year hiatus, no insider that I know has stated there will be a replacement. The LT, as expensive as it was, did not offer things that economy cars are offering now, like side airbags and stability control. Sales of the LT have been very disappointing for Lincoln.
The MKT will be here next year, but it is a three row CUV built off the Flex chassis. I am rooting for it, but I had hoped the Flex would do better than it is doing. I like that the MKT shares nothing obvious with the Flex, and maybe the new Lincoln styling will work better for it than the boxy Land Rover look of the Flex has worked for it. The MKR (badly needed) is years off yet (if they made the MKR, I would buy it). Far off as well is a full but badly needed redesign of he Navigator. This last iteration has stumbled badly in the marketplace, especially compared to the Escalade. The Town Car is now fleet only, and hasn't been updated in so long that it is an embarrassment, except for those livery jobs it does so well.
You keep saying Lincoln is in an expansion mode. Well, of course it is, but sales still don't reflect that very much. Before Mulally, it looked like Bill Ford was trying to kill it. Lincoln almost overtook Cadillac in the late 90s, one year even selling more vehicles than Cadillac did. Then old Bill decided Lincoln didn't even have the image to be in the now defunct Premier Auto Group (PAG). The wonderful LS was given a death sentence and the Lincoln Continental concept was killed (along with the Marks 9 and 10 concepts, and the innovative NaviCross that I believe could have really made a splash in the market).
Ford doesn't have the bucks right now to feed Lincoln like it really needs. Cadillac has three times as many new models coming or planned. I hope Lincoln makes it, and there is certainly nothing wrong with Lincoln having defenders like yourself. But informed admirers would be even better. Lincoln needs world class products and the resulting world class admirers that stellar product brings with it. The meltdown of the pigs in the housing and finance arenas will not help Lincoln rebuild.
Enjoy your LT and enjoy its scarcity as well. But please don't get all arrogant because most other people have chosen to buy something else. The Blackwood, as badly as that sold (largely due to no 4WD offering and the covered trunk with no option of a regular bed), at least had its own Lincoln styling, borrowed from the Navigator. Like it or not, the LT is an F150, with some trim variations, built on the same assembly line as the F150. Most people on doing the comparison found there was no reason the pay the extra bucks for such obvious badge engineering.
Have a nice day tomorrow.
Now, the Democrats and Liberals are responsible for the shape our car industry is in ! They are against drilling for oil which put us in a position we are in with high gas prices. So in turn our trucking industry suffers, and our automotive industry suffers. Also who has proven that foreign cars are superior to AMERICAN AUTOMOBILES ? What data supports that ? I traveled to foreign countries and guess what ! People love American cars and buy them overseas.
And another thing while I am at it, the Democrats and the Liberals are responsible for the current economic crisis ! They past something called the Community Reinvestment Act in 1977, making it law that banks give loans to PEOPLE that are bad risk. Now we have this mess !
You need to talk up American business and the American way of life because we have the best Country in the World ! Do your homework and figure out the difference between the Lincoln LT and Ford F150. It's not the so called badge you called it. Why would you think a luxury F150 would sell rather than a Lincoln LT? Why would people would flock to buy a F150 at $46,000. The luxury truck is the LT, Ford will not outsell the LT. Please sir, do your homework! Sir, in New Orleans we have it all together ! You need to go to the French Quarter and drink heavily and clear your mind. Have a great day !
If you were informed as you claim and if you paid real attention to the details, you would not be claiming so many things that are simply not true. In fact, more people buy the upper end F150s (which can cost $46K) than ever bought the Lincoln F150 (which DOES have the exact same engine, hp, transmission, switchgear, etc.). Keep asserting your delusion that it is different. At least you will believe it.
Furthermore, to counter your wild claim that people will not buy an expensive F150, Ford has found few buyers for the ersatz Lincoln pickup, but the King Ranch F150 has done just fine, as expensive as it is. Thus, the Lincoln truck is cancelled and Ford has added another luxury F150, the Platinum edition, for 2009. It starts in the 40K range and can easily go well into the 50K price range. I know that probably raises your blood pressure some more, but that is the way it is.
I love New Orleans and I will take your advice the next time I am there. By the way, was it after taking your own advice that you concluded that the LT has superior suspension quality and premium motor parts compared to an F150?
I note this from right here on Edmunds:
The Lincoln offers a lot of luxury for the money, but it doesn't take much scrutiny to realize that the LT has but one degree of separation from the F-150. Disappointingly, the LT has the same basic interior design and hard plastic interior panels, and doesn't really offer any features that you can't get on the Ford. Look at an F-150 King Ranch and you'll be looking at pretty much the same truck.
In this ultra-niche segment, the 2008 Lincoln Mark LT faces just one direct competitor, the Cadillac Escalade EXT. And the Caddy, due to its superior performance (0-60 a full 3 seconds quicker), more refined cabin and greater functionality, is easily the better luxury pickup truck. If, by chance, you find yourself choosing the Mark LT, you'll likely want to make your purchase this year -- it's expected that Lincoln will discontinue the truck after 2008 due to slow sales.
Anyway, the King Ranch and LT are built on the same assembly line. The LT gets some Lincoln badges and chrome and slightly different seats.
You may have it all together in NO--that's fine with me--but the high end F150s already far outsell the LT. Do your own homework for a change, have it corrected, and try to base it on something more than vapor, emotion and a good night on Bourbon St. It's ok you bought an LT and that you really like it, and that you have strong opinions. But facts are facts and the LT has done dismally in the marketplace. The marketplace Has spoken.
Last month, the Mark LT sold exactly 562 units. Even the Nissan Titan sold 10 times as many (5871). In fact, that Titan sales for August 08 are larger than the Mark LT sales for the first 8 months of 2007 (5858) and almost double the Mark LT's total for 2008 (3276).
Chevy sold 55,765 Silverados in August 2008... nearly 100x more than the LT.
asaro, there's nothing wrong with being a fan of any given vehicle. But those hard numbers tell the story. Unless you're in upper management at Ford, your statements are speculation at best. And those Mark LT sales numbers come directly from Ford.
kcram - Pickups Host
It's deja vu all over again.
Automotive News is reporting that Lincoln will soon end production of the Mark LT pickup, based on the Ford F-150 half-ton.
This is the second high end hauler to not find success under Ford Motor Company's luxury brand. The first was the unique Lincoln Blackwood pickup that never caught on with buyers and was dropped in 2002.
Small consolation, but the Mark LT did beat the Blackwood's sales goals, which were 10,000 units per year. Mark LT sold a peak volume of 12,753 trucks in 2006.
The Mark LT originally debuted at the 2004 North American International Auto Show and went on sale in 2005 as a 2006 model.
Automotive News is also reporting that the reengineered 2009 Ford F-150 will move upmarket to fill the Mark LT's void with a new 'Platinum' trim level.
I'm done with this and should have been several posts ago. The LT is toast and it doesn't matter the reason, conspiracy or no.
I am happy to educate people about the LT. I know the history and every part about the truck. I guess you could call me the LT Guru ! Now shortly I will go in my beautiful LT and drive to a great place for breakfast. I assure you heads will turn and people will keep looking at this beautiful truck. I get it everyday I drive it ! But the LT for 2011 will be better ! Have a great day, and if you need any info on the LT just make a post.
You sir are delusional. First of all the Lincoln LT is a...good truck. But thats about it.
Automotive News is reporting that Lincoln will soon end production of the Mark LT pickup, based on the Ford F-150 half-ton.
Even though the aforementioned is quoted from a previous post it is absolute truth. The Lincoln LT is done! Accept that and move on. You are starting to sound like you need to start cutting back on some of those Hurricanes you keep pushing everyone here to drink. Maybe you have had one to many?!?!
Maybe you should consider another truck for you wife.
Kcram I know your message was posted I while ago but, I have been in the market for an 08 LT and the word is that it is finished. All the dealers I've talked to say that it discontinued for good due to bad sale. It make sense because I never see them on the road. This is a shame because I would love to see a new revamped version for 09 or 10. The advantage is that they are practically giving them away I got quoted $35,825 for one. The sticker on the truck I may buy is $49,505. That is fully loaded mono chrome elite package, 20s, sunroof, step rails, ect. Is this the best deal and is it worth it or should I just get an F150 with similar options.