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An interesting note, though, about the Korean engines. Chevy calls the Aveo's 1.6L DOHC 16-valve cast-iron four banger with an aluminum head, 105 hp and 107-lb-ft.of torque motor "peppy". That may not be such a bad description if it's at all like my '99 Kia Sephia motor or my '01 Kia Sportage 4x4's motor. Both of those motors have been "peppy" and I got 25 city/32 hiway in the Sephia and I'm consistently getting 20 city and 25 hiway in the Sportsman. I don't consider that bad. My point is: drive your Aveo right and maintain it properly and you may get better mpg than you think or what's been stated heretofore. Not only that, you may find that the Korean Daewoo motor propels you along in a rather "peppy" manner, in an enjoyable kind of a way. Truly cool to have Aveo on the current automotive scene, huh?
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my 99 Leganza though with the 2.2L Ecotec has not required servicing yet. I had the timing belt system inspected recently and the mechanic said, it was like almost new. No damage or wear whatsoever. However they told me to come back before my 5 year warranty expires, and they will do the job under warranty anyways since Daewoo warranty is covering repairs without fuss. They said they can blame it on a water pump seal leaking.
With the Lanos 1.6L DOHC which a couple of my friends have, the common problems are misfires due to fuel injectors getting clogged, need fuel injection cleaning service around 40K mile mark, and the thermostat housing is plastic, and when the thermostat fails usually around 60K miles, the housing disintegrates and you lose all the coolant. Ironically GM is still using this plastic thermostat housing in the AVEO.
Other than that, these engines are quite reliable, and have not caused me any grief so far. My Leganza is now 5 year old with ZERO trouble. I challenge anybody to claim better reliability.
Isn't it something how different areas of the country have different concerns/interests.You would think that with the price of gas that these cars would be good sellers. I still have NOT seen one sedan or hatchback here in So. CT except for the ones that are still sitting on the local dealer's lot.
Mine just came in- LS Sedan fully loaded. It took 4 months! Picking it up on Saturday. Can't wait to see what it's like.
fastdriver
Now about the Aveo. I own the LS with all the goodies. Love the car. I research now. First it is 5 star crash tested....better than Toyota's Echo. Second it has a 60k warranty. Third it's auto transaxle has a "hold" feature to let you shift like a manual trans. Forth, I don't drive fast so it gives me the stated milage plus two or three more per gallon. Fifth, this car was never made to be a race car. It was made to be a "all-around" entry level vehicle.....it does that well. Most dealers offer free oil changes so you shouldn't have to do a thing until 60k.....then comes the timing belt and the once over....cost should be around 200 US for this service. As to the engine, expect it to run well but noisier then a Honda. As to the price of a Civic with same options....expect to pay 16,000 US. I payed 13,000 US and mine has it all.....love the sunroof and the hatchback. One thing I don't get.....this car has no cruise control? And no way to get one as it never came with one. The wing is for looks only. The alloy wheels are small but nice....I asked the dealer and he says that 15" wheels are not impossible for this car....I'll stay factory anyway. At anyrate though...remember this car is entry level....don't expect it to be a BMW and it won't disappoint. And just a side note about my Chevy Tracker....It's still running strong at 100k miles and still tows a thousand pound loads on it's matching trailer....I love that rig. No leaks, no major breaks, great gas milage....and hey, it has factory cruise! What a great little two door. As to the 4x4....with the "rock-crawler" kit in the transfer case and a little jacking.....it beats my buddy's 2003 chev big boy.....and I can get around better off-road in between the trees! Big rigs really are a waste in every direction but two they are faster and they de-value in total dollars faster than a small rigs! I know...My Chevy one ton mentioned above.....it sold consignment for 28,000 after one year and 10k miles.....that loss would have paid for my Tracker!!!! Never again! And gas milage on the 94'.....would you believe 10mpg in town. Compair this to almost 30mpg with the Tracker. And the new one's aren't any better...I know I looked. For the same rig today it only gets 2mpg better! Sorry for the long post.....see ya, but if your driving a big rig, I wouldn't want to be ya!
Geez. Can you tell us how you REALLY feel about your AVEO> ;-))))
I just bought a sedan LS with all the goodies too! I love it!
fastdriver
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The e-tec engine has been around for sometime now and its even considered old tec, but it has been proven reliable and durable.
I belive the aveo will avail itself as a dependable and affordable transportation in the US. Daewoo Auto demise in North America had NOTHING to do with the quality of its cars, this was more of corporate mismanagment.
I have had my blue hatchback ls for over 2 months and i can already tell chevy has a winner on its hand with this car, AS LONG AS IT IMPROVES ON THE EXISTING PLATFORM, there is alot of room for improvement in this vehicle.
I believe this car has the potential to catch on with the tunner crowd.
The ScionXA has a large following and its not that much differnt in body style as the 5 door Aveo, engine displacement is virtually the same with the Aveo 1 tic larger 1.6 vs 1.5.
Out here in Cali. most people customize thier cars to give them a little personality.
2021 Kia Soul LX 6-speed stick
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Also, chrisducati....as for St.Louis. Have you been up in the arch? If so, is it worth the parking fee and traffic congestion to get to it, to be able to go up in the 'Westward Expansion' Arch? Sure looks cool from a distance and up close and I'm thinkin' about going to the top of it in July(I mean inside-top of it in that funky little elevator!!!).
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I find it interesting that CR and other magazines compare the Aveo with the Xa and Xb. You will never be able to buy a new Xa for $6999 like you can an Aveo. I understand the MSRP are just a few thousand different but Scion dealer will not have to nor can they see their cars at cut rate prices. Profit margins are totally different between a car made in Japan and one made in Korea. I really do not see the Scions in the same light as the Korean made cars. They are more up market from the others. Size does not make a car cheap. That is one thing Americans do not grasp well. Look at the Mini. It is wonderfully detailed and materials are first rate. Hence it costs in the upper teens, low twenties.
As for St louis and the Arch. You should go at least once. It is fun. weather would be a factor as to how far you can see from the top of the arch. The ride up is just about like riding in a clothes dryer. It is hot and cramped. The lifts are round and drum shaped that twist and turn as they make their way up the curved legs of the arch.
As for getting an Aveo for $6999, I'd like to see that around my town but most dealers are selling the base models (no a/c) for around $8500 after the $1000 rebate. Is the $6999 one of those "one only" specials or a generally available price?
Has anyone heard an update as to whether the new Nissan Micra minicar is going to come to the United States or not?
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It's the black, Automatic with all the options.
Would like to know what the extra lens in the headlight housing if for though. Lots of room, I am 6'3" and have plenty of leg room even in the back seat. Much more comfortable the the '99 Mustang we traded in for the Aveo.
Other then the clock being replaced its been a good comuter car for us, we have but over 11,000 miles on it.
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City light. Used in Canada and Europe only.
Thanks 5sport
What would you do to hook them up? I would find a socket that fits the W5W or W194 in the states and see if you can make it fit that white lens area. Give a look, there may already be a socket. I would wire them to my parking lights thru a switch. BTW W194 is also used in side markers on cars in the USA. I replaced my side markers with Philips Blue Vision W5W from Powerbulbs.com.
So, since I already have the Daytime Running Lights, wouldn't they do the same thing?
I just think its stupid to have a lens with no light coming out of it.
Thanks again.
Oh and did you replace the side lens with a clear then? If so where did you find them?
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Since you have DRLs yes they would do the same thing. However nothing says it has to be a city light bulb in there. What about a blue/white LED in each lens? That would light the lens just enough at dusk.
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Oh and did you replace the side lens with a clear then? If so where did you find them?
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I'm using the stock amber lenses. The Philips W5W bulb is brighter than the stock bulb due to the xenon gas fill. Thus brighter sidelights.
BTW: I like the Aveo very much and woulndt mind a black hatchback :-)
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The hatch looks really good in black. I've seen those pictures and thats what sold me on black. So how is the car? Like the gas mileage? Is the ride smooth enough? AC work well? Just curious.
1. Mileage -- I got 25 mpg when it's brand new. Lately it improved to 27 (my commute is all city traffic, no freeway). On cross-country trips I got 33 to 35.
2. AC -- I think it's only so so. If my Aveo is parked under the hot California sun for a few hours before I drive it, the backseat passengers will have a problem feeling the air.
3. Insurance -- The insurance on my Aveo is slightly cheaper than my old Camry. I guess it depends on your policy (I'm with 21st Century).