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Is this reasonable?
Thanks in advance for any feedbacks and advices!
By the way, anybody can tell me a "good" dealor around Phily?
Have a nice weekend to everybody?
I have been lurking in this forum for a while, doing a buch of research and trying to assure myself that I was doing the right thing. The kids are a bit bigger now and we just did not need the huge space in our Honda Pilot any longer (yes, the bigger they get, the less space you need!), so we decided to downgrade to a smaller, more affordable vehicle, with good reliability and good gas mileage. I finally settled on a 2005 Jetta. I was considering a Hyundai Sonata as well, but I just could not take the plunge of owning a korean car, no matter how good people said the car was. I will pick up my silver 2005.5 Jetta 2.5 next week, as the dealer hat to get it somewhere else. I ended up paying $20,000, which is $1,465 under MSRP and I got the best possible trade-in price on my Honda Pilot at this dealer, so it worked out well.
We kept our old Windstar, though...it just does not get driven much for now.
While I think some of them look okay, I did not like the too small seats in Korean cars and they, so far, have not done well in IIHS crash tests. Meanwhile VW makes some of the safest cars.
Hope you enjoy your Jetta, my wife loves hers. I have driven it a few times and it is definitely the nicest car to drive we have ever had.
I have noticed a couple things though, VW is known for lighting up all the controls at night (which is a good thing) but the lights for the sunroof throw a glare on the gear selector console so that it is difficult to see. Also, the passenger air bag OFF light, as one of the sites commented, is very bright. I'm hoping that after some time I won't even notice it.
I am contemplating an extended warranty given the Jetta's past and also whether to use synthetic oil or not. Any comments on that would be appreciated and if I can answer anyone's questions please post.
I live in the Raleigh/Durham area and was wondering if you could tell me how many 2.0T Jettas they had on the lot in Durham and with what packages. I was in there about a month ago and they offered me $800 over invoice, granted that this was their first offer and I was not in a hurry to buy. Invoice price is a great deal and might go back if I can get it. Did you go to Leith VW in Cary and check out their inventory? Their online inventory is down. Thanks a lot.
Martyt
This late in the year (Mid-November), are there any new 2005.5 Jettas out there with Package 1 and automatic? I live in the Chicago suburbs.
Thanks for any help and comments.
We want a safe commuter with a little kid between work place/daycare and home (the van will sit around in garage for weekend etc). Jetta obviously the best one out there for this purpose. I searched info on a Jetta a week ago and requested price quotes through Edmunds -- 4 of them. We got the best quote from Valley Motor/VW. Then we stopped at the dealership on Saturday to finalize the deal for about 20 minutes, a great experience without any pressure. Then she delivered the car to my home the past Tuesday. The total out-of-the-door price is $20,025.00 on this 2006 Jetta VE auto with ESP and Rear Airbag options. That was it -- 2 emails, one 20minutes visit to dealer, then a deliver to house! As you can see, I am extremely happy with the experience and the car so far.
This board has been a big help in our car buying experience so I thought I would post our deal.
We ended up getting a leftover 05.5 Jetta 2.5 ( reflex silver) with package 1 for $19000 + 375 dlr fee from a dealership in Denver. They were offering $4000 off MSRP for all of their leftover 05s. We really didn't negotiate much, they just threw that number out and we took it. The deal included a $500 loyality rebate. We looked at some Subarus, but for the money the Jetta seemed like a lot more car. I think with a set of blizzaks it should be plenty capable in the snow.
Happy Driving!!!
I guess I should tell my friend to move to Denver. : )
I always get a beter price with strong phone negotiation versus e-mail. I think too many people want it to be easy and hassle free (which I understand) and don't realize that they might've overpaid by $500 to $1000. Dealers should be friendly, not trick you AND give you the lowest price...not just 2 out of 3. And I know that most people give up way too easily on getting more money on their trade in. You can get a rock bottom price if you pit 2 or 3 dealers against each other, just put in a few hours and you'll be amazed. Too many people buy from the closest dealer and overpay. It's really a shame. Please save the money for your family.
My buddy loves his new Jetta! Package 1 in 2005.5 in much nicer than 2006's Package 1. Good luck everyone.
We have seen on carsdirect.com a target price for the '06 GLI Pckg. 1 w/ DSG listed as 23,971. At the top of the options list, it says, "Special Pricing - Expires 2/28/06", but lists no numbers or other explanation. I did the math and figured out a $1000 hidden incentive in their listed target price. Can anyone shed some light on this highly secretive topic? :] Thank you!
There is $500 owner loyalty, maybe the target price is assuming you qualify for that plus giving up the holdback???
Had another area VW dealer willing to go a bit lower ($23,926) on a 2006 Jetta, 2.5L, automatic transmission, package 2 and rear air bag, but it wasn't the preferred color. The "manufacture date" on this "wrong color" inventory vehicle - determined by walking the dealer's lot after hours - was July 2005 (!!!!). Figured that for the price difference ($74) we'd stick with our color prefence (the additional rear air bag on the "wrong color" Jetta didn't entice us either).
With regard to the CarsDirect "target price" - it was the only website that listed such a low "target" or "negotiated price." So, either Carsdirect knew something others didn't or it's information was faulty.
Either way, though, we found it impossible to get the VW dealers to go any lower - so if there is any manufacturer to dealer money, we weren't successful in getting them to give it up through our direct negotiations. In fact, we counter-proposed to the "wrong color" dealer (ya know, the one with the manufacture date of July 2005) at $23,500 and told him we were definitely buying the "right color" later that afternoon unless he cut the price. During the day, we got no return message from him. So we bought the "right color" at the other dealer. Later that same evening that we bought the "right color" Jetta, we got an email from "wrong color" salesman saying "sorry I was off today. If you bought the car already, you've got a great car. If not, then give me a call and let's finalize the deal." (what "deal"??).
Ok, I can either be generous (he wasn't lying about being off) or not (he was lying about being off and just playing possum) with regard to the "wrong color" salesman. But, let's just say this was a designated "internet salesman" with whom we had been emailing over the past 24 hours AND he had our cellphone number so we'll let the reader decide which way they would go on that.
To sum up our experience, it was very difficult to get two area dealers into an effective "reverse auction" for a 2006 Jetta at a price much below $24,000.
At the end of the day, I think $24,000 on our new "right color" 2006 Jetta, 2.5L automatic, with package 2 was a "good deal."
MSRP $26,740: offered to me at $21,240.
IS THIS A GOOD OFFER??? :confuse:
$24,000 sounds high especially since people are buying new Passats for close to that.
In what parallel universe? The last reported sale price (in late Feb. 2006) - according to the Passat prices paid forum - for a 2006 Passat 2.0T, with package 2 was $26,050.
I've been offered a deal on a new 2005.5 jetta 2.5 w/auto and package #2 xm.
MSRP $26,740: offered to me at $21,240.
IS THIS A GOOD OFFER???
As mentioned above, I just bought a 2006 Jetta 2.5, with package 2(xm) in the St. Louis metro area for $24,000.
I'm still on the email list for one of the dealer's I was negotiating with for the 2006 and they JUST (really) sent me an email for their "Pre-Construction Sale" listing a 2005 Jetta with package 2 for $22,4xx. Notably, this very same dealer offered a similar vehicle (2005 Jetta, 2.5L, auto with package 2 xm) for $23,000 only a week or two back (suggesting the 2005 in liue of the 2006 and insisting that they couldn't sell a 2006 Jetta for less than invoice).
My wife and I ended up ordering a custom 06 GLI from VW (wait time up to 4 months). Costco price was quoted as 200 over invoice for a total of $29326 (Pkg#2, 18in wheels, DVD Navigation, Rear Side Airbags, cargo net). But then you add in fees (doc=289, port=367, dealer prep=200) and it ends up $30182 (~1K over straight invoice). Could we have done better? Perhaps. But we were happy getting ~2350 under MSRP for the exact car we wanted with no hassle from a great salesperson. Now we wait, and ponder our need for a second car...
You say there is not much difference in price between Jetta and C230...but C230 starts at $29K, while Jetta starts about $18K. :confuse:
The result is I still have the car but don't drive it and am thinking about selling it. I took it into the DEALER (in Chicago) last week. They are the typical "hard nosed" type. The salesman thought I was just another uninformed customer. Low balled the offer to me, I walked out. No way am I going to give my car to a dealer to make money on it. They undervalued the car giving it a poor rating.
I honestly think Dealers are giving us consumers a hard time. No matter what they say about their expenses and coverage costs. So I think it is time to speak out and call it like it is. A fair deal is just that, and a Dealership that tries to take advantage of a buyer needs to be challenged.
I never thought of selling my car myself. Always had the idea that the Dealer knows best. Well, do they? I don't think so. I found so much helpful information on Edmunds. I wish I had found them in 2002 before I went to the Dealer.
I am selling mine, but the Dealer told me they didn't have any models for me to compare my car to. They did, in fact they had quite a few, they are listed on the Internet and their Dealership name is next to the car. So the real issue is they are giving you a story. Unfortunately, we believe their stories.
And what is more their asking price is so inflated above a fair value and it does not matter whether the car is used or new. The problem is that you and I, the humble consumer, get ripped off.
Sounds like you got more of a story than I did, but it also sounds like your situation (selling a used car) is pretty different than mine (buying a new one).
I have been looking for the past 2 months. The best price I got was $18,700 for 2006 Jetta VE with Automatic and ESP option here in the Boston area. The price included the $650 destination charge. The MSRP was $19,885
Tax, Title and fees would be extra.
What part of the country are you buying in?