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Our salesperson even said "and you can move the front seat forward just by lifting this lever" then sort of shrugged it off when it didn't work.
Is this another owner's manual goof up?
WHATEVER! Guess that person will have to go elsewhere to find good web site...
I'm sorry Edmunds. At least I didn't use profanity in any of my postings, or try and sell something...
140,000 built per year in Fremont
30,000 built per year in Mexico
Good luck
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I know lots of people that rust proof their vehicles including myself and think its a good idea to protect your vehicle, afterall they arent exactly cheap!
But again, peace of mind is valuable, so if you feel it is worth the money then it is worth the money. A scam is only a scam if someone feels cheated.
With this module the dealer told me that I wouldn't need any other protection against rust and that it is warranted for live. Sounds great!!! But is it really true???
Thanks in advance for any help.
The delivery time I am not sure yet because I am waiting to see if the dealer can locate one somewhere else
Thanks again
The "warranty for life of the vehicle" is only for the duration of your ownership, more than likely, so you're only buying peace of mind for yourself, not for any other potential owners. Unless you actually try to do things that will induce rust to generate, the truck will more than likely not rust in any reasonable time frame. So, if you only plan to keep it 3-5 years, I am certain it is not a good deal. However, if you plan to keep it for 20 years, it could actually come in handy! That is assuming that the dealer is still in business if it is a dealer mod rather than factory - if so, the warranty would not be honored at other dealerships. Or, if the warranty is through the company Cap Final Coat, the warranty would expire along with the solvency of the company should it cease to exist.
-Wes-
Also, check the cost to dealers of these accessories. It is not abnormal to charge people as much as they can get away with, as opposed to a reasonable 5% over cost. The cost to purchase and apply a coating is often less than $75.
Finally, rust is not generally a problem for cars anymore, unless they are scratched or scraped as a part of their regular use. In this case, the warrantee might be voided.
I got corrosion protection only because it cost the same to get the "whole package" (meaning paint sealant (helps resist scratches), Interior fabric protection (I have kids), and corrosion protection, than it was to just get the fabric protection. Total was $500, and is worth it just for the fabric protection (protected my last truck's fabric from kid vomit and cat urine....#$@!% Cat). The name brand of the protectant is Auto Armor, the protector or something like that. Warranty is lifetime and can be transferred to 1 new owner. Like I said, if it weren't for the interior protection, I would have passed, but I don't think you can say a rust inhibitor is of no value in a rust friendly enviornment like we have here.
First vehicle identification number digit: U.S.A.(1 or 4), Canada (2), Mexico (3), Japan (J), Korea (K), England (S), Germany (W), Italy (Z)
Back to rust, though. Julia, what exactly is this mod? It can be removed and installed on another vehicle? Now I'm really skeptical that it is something that truly inhibits rust.
A rust warranty is not necessarily bad or a scam (like I said, a scam is only a scam if someone feels cheated), but you can bet that dealers make good money off them or they wouldn't be offered. In Fairbanks, it would be a complete waste of money. You could own a rig up here for 100 years and it probably wouldn't rust out on you under conditions of normal care and use. In salt-happy regions, not so. Maybe DOT in those areas will someday evolve and stop using salt.
Vehicles don't rust out like they once did and I would be shocked to see significant rust on any vehicle less than 5 or 10 years old. Then again, I don't live in the upper midwest.
I suppose that could help to reduce the speed at which the body rusts by negating or lessening static-charged conditions. If it did not run constantly (24-7-365), then charged conditions would still persist. Let's face it, metal rusts even when we're not driving, and most of a car's time is not spent in operation. That's still more effective than an after-manufacture undercoating. It would not inhibit rust though; only slow the process.
Save your money.
See http://www.kirtner.com/vin.html
I don't think there is a forum on that site, if there is, sorry in advance.
https://www.fleet.ford.com/maintenance/vin_tools/default.asp
Pretty cool site, I knew you could tell certain things from the VIN but I didn't know you could tell what safety restraints the vehicle has and the engine size.
Where abouts do you live ? I live in Ontario, Canada and know of a great local shop that installs hitches, drop me a line jessupr@yahoo.com
B
I'd like to get an 05, but at the moment I didn't think I'd need to check country of origen to determine quality until I read this thread.
As far as Toyota letting their quality slide; look at all the problems people are talking about on this forum. Leaks, knocks, ticking, glove boxes, shimmy from the skid plate and now paint chipping off.
Although most of the Tacomas are made in Fremont, could the Tijuana plant be contributing to the poor quality control. I urge you to look up the article and read it. There's a lot more in it than I've mentioned. L.A. Times Business section, 1-23-05.
The problems mentioned here I think are coming from the Freemont plant. The Mexico plant just came on line in Jan 05 as far as assembling trucks. They were making truck beds before that. It would be informative if people with these problems would check their vin# and see if they start with a 3(Mexico) or a 1,4,or 5(USA)Please do this people so we can access the quality of the Mexico plant. It would be most helpful.
Glove box defect would not be a Mexico problem as they just assemble not manufacture.
Engine ticking would also be a American manufacturing problem from one of their engine plants in the USA.
Suspension knocking could be a Mexican problem as I assume they mount the cab to the chassis there as well as the leaky windsheild mabey.
They say the Mexican workers there are very enthusiastic about their work which is more than I can say about some US auto workers I've known. I just want my truck to be the best it can be, and I'm not sure assembled in Mexico is a bad thing. Most Mexicans I've known are hard workers, and work their butts off which is more than I can say for my compadres that squeak by when they can.
I've owned a 91 toy truck since it was new and never have had one problem in 14 years. I'll take a Taco with a few minor problems over a Ford any day.
I’m getting ready to purchase one and in talking with a few salesmen, I’m getting the usual confusing info. One said tops aren’t available yet. One has said we have to install after dealer takes delivery. From info I’ve read on some “pricing” sites, I was under impression that top is installed as an option at the “port”. I would like to know which is correct before beginning the purchasing process.
Tom Clark
(vmiman)
Also, anyone received any word on an available hard tonneau cover. I've read that several companies are working on one, but is one available yet (again, one which will not interfere with the rail system)?
Tom Clark
(vmiman)
And yes $3.20 an hour is a darn good wage in Mexico!