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If every infiniti dealer is selling close to 20-30 of these SUV each month, it will be a very good year for infiniti. Also this will be the most talked about SUV ever and I will see thousands of them on the highway. You are trying to create hype when there is no hype.
Your failure to offer a discount will loose you customers. Two other houston dealers are giving $1500 off MSRP for this car.
Your dealership is 10 mintues from my house and I guess I won't be able to buy my car from you. Seems like you have all yours sold through november.
I think any dealership who discounts this vehicle is foolish, they will find themselves with no vehicles and customers who are willing to pay for them, but they sold them all (at a discount) OR maybe they tell you they are discounting them and then not give you a fair amount for your trade or have higher closing cost or financing??? Price is but one part of a "car deal".
Come visit - you are only 10 minutes away - come see why we sell more vehicles than any other dealership even though our price is a tad higher...we find customers like to avoid "games" and be treated like they are about to spend $60-$70k - treated with respect.
PS If you got a trade - I'll discount whatever you want
Also what are you using to qualify your dealership as the "largest in the country?" (I don't see it listed #1 in new or used car sales volume.)
but I will be driving the Q7 Audi, and the Mercedes GL too.
Good luck on that purchase.
Our owner is Carl Sewell, he wrote Customers For Life (google it). We have two Infiniti dealerships and are building a 3rd (awarded to us by Infiniti) since we have some of the highest CSI (customer satisfaction scores) in the Nation and we are high volume. We are 1 of only 2 dealership to win the Circle of Excellence Award from Infiniti (over 180 dealers in the country). I've worked at Sewell for 14 years, so I have some experience.
It is not often, but every now and then a vehicle comes along that customer will pay MSRP or more for. Corvettes throughout the years, certain Lexus or the Escalade or Hummer when they first rolled out and that is what we have going on with the QX56 right now - sure it will fade...but not for a few months. If you wait, you will get a better price.
Now - some dealers charge over MSRP (it is the Manufactors SUGGESTED Retail Price) - I think of Smart cars or the Mini or the SC430 - we never have - even when vehicles were super limited after WWII (Sewell has been doing this since 1911 - we have some loyal customers), we never sold one over MSRP - but we think it is fair to sell them at MSRP if the market bears it - do you blame us? If we know we are going to sell them all, why discount? Now have we, yes - to our loyal customers who have bought from Sewell we have given a $500 courtesy discount plus we give high trade-in values and no dealer prep fees or other "BS".
We've sold 32 this month, have 5 lined up for folks to pick up Fri/Sat which only leaves us about 10 left with no more coming till mid-September. So, it is basic supply vs demand.
37% of our sales YTD are repeat customers.
12% are referrals.
12% are "general reputation"
That is 61% or are vehicles sold not due to advertising or internet, etc.
In the end - if you can find a dealership to give you a big discount on the QX56 right now - congratulations, let everyone know on the forum, you did a great job - but I don't think it is happening out there and I am keeping a close eye on it...when the vehicles start to stack up on the lot...we will be the first to reevalutate our pricing stance until then we will "make hay while the sun is shining"....
PS If you want a EX - I'll sell it to you for invoice - the $3000 dealer cash....
mlad11 - none of this is directed to you specifically, I'm speaking to the general public to let them know what is happening from my perspective. Again I'm only at 1 of 180+ stores, so maybe things are different up North or on the Coast - we are in Texas.
PS I expect Infiniti to raise the price on this vehicle either mid-year 2011 or by 2012 for sure.
I was looking at a 2010 back about July 1st, but the technology in the vehicle just seemed outdated (I couldn't get past no USB port, and the dumb compact flash slot).
I'm been tracking the 2011 for awhile now, and have decided it's the one for me. I even have a buddy who just recently moved from the Dallas metro, and we considered going to Sewell to buy (I live in Kansas City). Salesman was very nice and indicated many inquiries were made on VPP, but not available.
Anyway, I haven't seen any updates on the availability of the 2011 on the VPP program. I know right now it's excluded, and since I found my employer qualifies me for the program, I am holding out on purchasing.
I visited my only local Infiniti dealer today at lunch, and was informed this vehicle was now on a 30 day notice for VPP. From what I gathered, this means in 30 days, Infiniti should decide when they will release it to the program (not that it will be released at that time).
sewellgsm...can you validate that info at all, and let me know how it works? Also, do you have any personal opinion on when we might see VPP availability on the 2011? Again, just doesn't make sense to pay MSRP with that in my pocket, and the ability to wait. I will be crushed if they say Feb 2011 or something though.
Any new VPP info here would be great, thanks.
I'll post anything I get that is official.
Infiniti reliablity and customer approach won me over initially along with quality for value. But though had some features I value more than the many other goodies. One is blindspot warning. I would buy this car again for its value, look and perfomance but the safety aspect of this one feature makes it a slam dunk for an older driver like me. There is a reason it is going for full MSRP for now, it is a good value at the price and demand is high for valid reasons. With this SUV, I dont need a luxury car, it is an SUV and luxury car all in one package, so saves me getting a third car.
A homerun on this one Infiniti, way to go and thanks
My QX was not on the lot but due in next week. I think the dealer was happy he didn't have to pay any flooring or deal with other dealers wanting to trade him for it. Plus Cash for Clunkers peaked in Aug last year so dealer Y/Y comparison is going to be rough. Good weekend to make a deal.
I'm in Northern CA, supply is very limited around here as well but each of the major dealers seem to be getting a handful of QX's a month.
Thanks
They are doing a 2.9% financing up to 60 months which is really great on this type of vehicle. Makes financing the car vs leasing it a no-brainer.
Hats off to Infiniti for finally figuring the Large SUV buyer out - we traded our 10 year old QX4 which we loved but at 150K miles we were ready
If you live in the ATL area - try Nalley Infiniti of Decatur first - they seem to be the most aggressive right now. Salesperson was great, and the sales manager was willing to work with me.
Good luck!
Toyota is playing the same game with their '10 4Runners. I was persistent enough and I ended up getting the deal I was looking for. Same with a GL450 that I purchased a year ago at well below invoice; persistence and patience paid off. I really want one of these but for now, I'm just gonna sit back and relax.
I thanked him for his call, informed that I really liked the new QX56 BUT I would be waiting , and from his attitude, a very long time, if and when prices come down.
I guess he told me!!!! I'll wait.
Good luck!
Here is the sad thing. We just received our allocation for our December units - Infiniti gave us 9 - I called to complain, told them I was ready and willing to buy 60 - my Disctrict Manger said they were only building 300 for the Western US - either they are back ordered on parts of they are running into CAFE restrictions.
So, I predict most of you who decide to buy will be buying them off the inbound list (vehicles somewhere in between the dealer and Japan) because there won't be many to choose from. I also predict they raise the price. They sell the QX world wide - in China they are getting over $100k for it (in US dollars).
Remember, it is not about the discount - the ony thing that matters is the transaction price when comparing to other makes. The new Escalde stickers in the 80's, so they can take $7k off - you still pay in the mid-70's - the QX is a much better value at MSRP.
The price will come down eventually, but no time this year. At least not in Texas.
PS I got one for my wife - hands down the best vehicle I have ever owned.
I'll wait and see if it's a better deal later in the year or just look for another SUV: GX460, LX570, MDX, GL, Escalde, Q7, X5. There are too many SUVs out there to pick from. I'm sure I will get a good deal for these cars, QX56 included.
All I am saying is, in Houston Texas, if you really want it badly, you can get about $1000 off of MSRP now. DO NOT PAY MSRP price.
My name is xxxx xxxxxxxx and I am the Internet Sales Manager here at Passport Infiniti. xxxx is off today. Everyone wants to get a deal these days. The QX56 is under priced at 63,715. We normally discount over priced, stale or new vehicles with minor lot damage. This vehicle is smoking hot. By far it's the best value out there. Let's make sure you like this vehicle and that it is even available when you come by to look at it. Will this saturday or sunday work for you?
hmm...nothing off the sticker price. oh well.
The post I'm replying to is very true. You can save money and wait, I'm just saying the wait may be longer than you expect.
We have now sold 15 this month and only have 5 left, again we are selling them at MSRP or $500 off to our previous customers. The 5 will probably last through the weekend. We also have sold 11 of our 59 sold before they have even arrived from Japan (again at MSRP). Soon, there will be no QX's on "the ground", and if you want one you will have to order one.
Now, Infiniti will respond - they will ramp up production and come March or so the supply will catch up to demand and the price will then come down.
If someone really can buy a QX anywhere close to invoice, please let me know - I will buy them from the dealer myself because the demand in Texas in very high.
PS This vehicle at MSRP is much better and less expensive than most SUVs in its class even though they are discounted $5-$10k. Most luxury SUV sticker at $70-$90k, maybe Infiniti should just raise the MSRP and then give you a rebate and you will feel better about spending the same amount of money???
I for one will not buy any car at MSRP! The invoice is what I am after. The last 2 cars I bought, always around invoice prices. Be smart, people. Don't let the car sale man push you. It's your money and you earned it with your hard work, you know that. And remember, sewellgsm is THE CAR SALE MAN.
I guess not everyone is struggling - BTW the gas mileage stinks on this vehicle, but if your shopping for a vehicle that gets good gas mileage - this one is NOT it.
Have a good weekend...and know this - even at MSRP this vehicle is a better value than any SUV's out there. (I'm a bit bias ) Expect Infiniti to raise the price, they are getting over $100k for them in China.
In no way do I want to make this personal, but customers have a long memory , and I believe that (1) gas prices will rise, (2) Infiniti will produce enough so that supply will exceed demand, thou it may be temporary, (3) and the selling price will drop. I believe that the buyers will remember if and when they were treated with disdain, at least I will.
The matter of selling and buying new cars at window sticker price is a bartering process established at dealerships years ago. If any customer leaves a dealership thinking that he or she "stole" the car because of the great price they paid, he or she is an uninformed customer. benbo
This is my 12th Infiniti however so I am biased but for good reason with the reliability and way the ones I have now and in the past have served my needs without failing me.
I got the first QX in WA at invoice (below counting the loss the dealer took on my '09 RRS trade he ended up selling at auction). But I live in a small city and the dealer was afraid of getting stuck floor planning a $70K vehicle not knowing how they'd sell. And let's face it, the styling is a bit polarizing. Since mine, they've gotten four more which they sold at $1K off MSRP all to out-of-towners. So, discounts can be had if you're opportunistic and willing to invest the time and look in alternate locations. But don't come down on dealers looking to make a profit where they can. Selling things for less than people are willing to pay for them isn't how you made the money you're using to pay for your QX.
GREAT CAR!
Honestly, if anyone is getting a big discount from your local dealer - please let me know - I will buy every QX on their lot (after you get yours of course) and happily pay invoice or a little above and pay to have them shipped down to Texas where folks want them. This vehicle is awesome!
Ring, ring...
I called Infiniti and they told me that if a dealer does not comply, just report it to Infiniti so they make note and report...I imagine the VPP program is a 2 way deal between companies and Nissan doesn't want partners upset.
Q. Are all Nissan and Infiniti vehicles eligible for the VPP discount?
A. No. Currently the Nissan Versa 1.6 models and GT-R are not eligible for purchase under VPP.
It does state that the dealer can choose not to participate though, which is where the confusion comes in.
I am awaiting for from my local dealer about availability, but my hopes are lower than before, for sure.
In the Seattle area here, and looks like the dealers here aren't getting any 2011s anytime soon.
We are down to 2 in Dallas and Houston is sold out