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Mercedes-Benz: Future Models

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  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    very optomistic about Mercedes' future: more so than at any time in the last 5 years.

    The CLS and new S are great. The other new vehicles seem to be on target as well. Also, over the last 6-12 months management has realized that quality and reliability problems are serious matters that need to be put right.

    This is the first time in years that Mercedes, Cadillac, Rolls and Bentley are all doing well at the same time!
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I wouldn't count on the Jan sales figures though, they'll be in the 12-15K range if the typical Jan is anything to go by. Import luxury brands always seem to get off to a slow start. Mercedes in particular doesn pick up until like March-April. This year it might be Feb since the new S will go on sale around the middle of Feb. The new GL will arrive in March from all I've seen on it so far. The facelifted SL and E arrive in May-June along with the S65 AMG. The ML63 is due in April also. Not sure when the CLS, R and ML get the new V8.

    M
  • scott1256scott1256 Posts: 531
    be slow, which is typical for MB.

    My optomism is based on Mercedes doing well over the next several years. There may be a few weak months, but the new products are on target.

    I too think the GL will be a serious player. The E facelift should boost late summer and fall sales. The SL is a profit center for DC: every extra sale that results from updating the big roadster helps the bottom line.

    By the way: did MB deliberately choose the worst possible camera angles for early release S-class pictures? Your pictures from Detroit and others I have seen look so much better than those early ones.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    By the way: did MB deliberately choose the worst possible camera angles for early release S-class pictures? Your pictures from Detroit and others I have seen look so much better than those early ones.

    I dunno, but the car looks so much better in real life and in real life photos than it did in those initial press shots.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    The details for the SL55 and SL65 AMG models have been announced.

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    Article

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  • were up 3%. Quite impressive after the big December.

    The CLS, M, G and R carried the ball for January sales: Some of the other models were down quite dramatically.

    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02/01/209083.html
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I don't know if I'd call it impressive, but any improvement is good I guess. It is interesting though that the Jan numbers are like a third of the Dec 2005 number. The Feb-April numbers will set the pace for the year I think. That is when the S and GL go on sale.

    M
  • albellalbell Posts: 185
    The R, which I own and love, sold less than 1000. Ouch. I cant believe MB cant move these things.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well MB's Jan sales are always slow especially compared with the Dec that just past. I don't think the R will ever live up to Mercedes' initial expectations or 20-30K a year, but it will do better than Jan's total for sure. Jan is always a steep dropoff month for MB.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Spy pics for the upcoming 2008 C-Class are all over the web now it seems:

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    another pic

    one the road

    The profile looks like that of the new S-Class, but the rear looks to be the same as the upcoming CL.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Mercedes has some type of debut planned for the Chicago Autoshow this week it seems. The S450 or GL550 are the only possibilities I can think of. It certainly won't be the facelifted SL or E-Class. The ML63 could be another possibility? Or even the V8 engine change overs for the ML.

    M
  • The look and stance of the C class spy photos is all S-class. IMO the look is right on target and should greatly boost C class sales.

    The faster the new C is on the lots the better!

    As to Chicago: I expect it will be the new V-8s in the ML.
  • Mercedes is coming out with the GL450 in March to compete with the LX470.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    In reading your profile I see you're a Benz salesman. A few questions. Do you know the new V8s will be placed into the R/M/CLK/E models? Another salesperson said that the S450 was delayed??? If you would please. :D

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well I see now they're talking about the ML63 and R63 debuting in Chicago this week. Those models were a given I think. Me wanted a surprise!!!

    M
  • Base price of $140,675.

    Biturbo V-12 with 510 HP and 612 ft/lb torque (at 1800 rpm!) Engine uses various metals: cast iron, aluminium and magnesium.

    'Higher level of wood and leather' compared to the base S class sedans.

    http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2006/02/09/210135.html
  • albellalbell Posts: 185
    Oh my. When will the HP madness end ;)
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    What you talkin' bout? The new S600 "only" has 510hp...lol!!!!

    Wait until the S65 AMG goes sale.

    I see the new S-Class has arrived. Local dealer had a truck load of them pulling up last night.

    M
  • Dear Merc,

    Been waiting to add an E-550 4-Matic Wagon to my S-430 4-Matic fleet.
    Have been absolutely resistant to buying Sensormatic brakes.

    I hear the '07 E will eliminate those in favor of conventional hydraulics.

    True?

    Availability of such a model anytime this year?
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    All true. I would expect the E550 this summer like June/July and the SBC brakes gone!!!

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    The AMG parade starts:

    Presenting the CLK63 AMG:

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    In Short 482hp and 465lb-ft of torue, 2007 model for the U.S. late summer/fall. Replaces the current CLK55 AMG Cabriolet on the U.S. market. The CLK55 Coupe was dropped for 2006. No word on wether or not we'll get the CLK63 Coupe.

    Also the CLS63 AMG:

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    In short: 515hp and 465lb-ft of torque, replaced the CLS55 AMG. More hp, less torque, but more gears.

    German Article

    It appears that the new CL may be at Geneva also. If that is the case, there should be a press release with the offical pics any day now. The CLS63 and CLK63 will all be at Geneva. The regular CLS and CLK models should also be shown with the new 5.5L V8 from the S550 at this time also.

    M
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Offical press release on the CLK63, CLS63, and facelifted SL models.

    M
  • Thanks as usual for all the info, Merc1.

    Have you seen HP/Torque numbers for the SL 65 AMG anywhere?
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    The numbers for the SL65 stay the same I think 612hp and 738lb-ft of torque or 604hp in U.S. numbers.

    M
  • will have a HP/torque boost in the next 12-18 months.

    The spread between the V-8 and the V-12 has traditionally been greater than what it now is.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Well when they do come out with the SL/CL/S "63" models they'll likely have a turbo version of the new AMG V8 with like 550-570hp. At that time I expect the "65" cars to get a boost to 650hp to keep them comfortably ahead of the new V8 models. I'm betting on the 2008 model year for this to take place.

    M
  • That would be my guess about the timetable also. When this happens:

    1) the actual HP spread between the V-8 and V-12 SLs will be bigger than ever.

    2) on a percentage basis (14% boost from 570HP to 650 HP) the difference will be less than in the past.

    For instance in 2002, the SL 600 was almost 29% more powerful than the SL 500, having 389 HP vs. the 302 HP of the V-8.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I'm reading now on GCZ (GermanCarZone) that Mercedes is going to show a direct-injection version of the 3.5L V6. It produces 292hp (288 in the U.S.)/270 lb-ft torque in the facelifted E350 with a projected 26.6 MPG rating. Just like always expect this engine to spread to all the "350" models before the end of 2006. When I see something offical I'll post it here of course. This was taken from a rough translation of a German magazine. All of this is supposed to be shown at Geneva in a week or so.

    M
  • SL 350 be available in the US at some point?
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