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2007 SVT Cobra
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http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=19&article_id=9638&page_number=1
The following is from Motor Trend May 2005 pages 55, and 56:
"Hau Tai-Tang, the 2005 Mustang's chief program engineer, was handed the reins at SVT last fall."
"Visceral feedback from all driver inputs will be greatly increased; differentiated, yet well harmonized."
"We won't hesitate to have you do a driving comparison against IRS-suspended competitors."
- Hau Tai-Tang, the 2005 Mustang's chief program engineer. He is now in charge of SVT.
cool video
My question is: Are all these guys saying they're already on a list simply telling lies? Or (more likely) are they being lied to and being put on some phony list just to get their deposit money?
I like the car and have the means to purchase it, but all I've been able to do is leave my phone number for when they can 'officially' make a list.
Any feedback?
Thanks all...
chuckdoc
The first time I spoke with my local dealer, (who is SVT) he assured me I was the first one to even ask about this car and told me I was #1 on the list. I called him a week later to show my seriousness and to discuss a deposit and he tells me they already have 4 bought and paid for and 4 others that had paid a substantial deposit, So now I would be #9 on the list. What a jerk! How do they even know they will get that many?? How can they have 4 bought and paid for when no one even knows what sticker price will be?
I want one of these cars so bad but if the game is gonna be whoever can come up with $50,000 18 months in advance, then I guess I should just go buy a new Mustang GT!
Thanks for listening, John
chuckdoc
Additionally, how can anyone (dealers or otherwise) possibly say that there are no waiting lists? Waiting lists are not established on a national level. Waiting lists happen every single time a (hot-hot) new model comes out, and money down is the only way you get on it. I work at a motorcycle dealership, and we take waiting lists on a regular basis. To say that there are no lists is ludicrous. We currently have a list on the '06 Raptor 700, for example. Not placing a down payment tells the dealer that you are reserving the right to not buy the car, while at the same time someone else is offering him money right now, sight unseen. I promise I mean no offense here, but that's a pretty simple business equation.
Jul 18th: I was towing my boat on I-70 going west out of Grand Junction, Colorado. I was going 65, since I prefer not to gain too much speed with my boat in tow. All of a sudden I see a blue Mustang with 2 racing stripes up the middle coming up very fast from behind. Then I noticed that the grill looks kinda different, and by the time it passed me I noticed the GT500 concept rims. I then realized why the grill was different from a regular Mustang GT. Before I had time to think the exact same car (but this one in Yellow instead of Blue) all passed me. This time I also noticed the modified GT500 mufflers and tail pipes sticking out behind. I also noticed the Michigan Manufacturer plates. Both cars were dusty, so it was hard to tell the color of the racing stripes. They looked silver to me. Within about 20 seconds - both cars turned into 2 dots far away ahead. I would judge their speed between 85-90 mph.
I am guessing that they were on the way to Ford's Arizona test track. I know that almost all manufacturers test their vehicles for High altitude in Colorado and then test for Very hot temperaturers in Arizona.
It was a cool experience.
2FastDre.
waiting like the rest of the ham n' eggers!
http://www.gotobo.com/2007ShelbyCobraGT.aspx
What is the price difference between the Shelby GT-500 and the regular Cobra? Any guesses?
We will take money down on hot new models before allocation, with the agreement that it will be refunded if we cannot meet the commitment (which HAS happened to us on one occasion in 2000). Money down is an agreement (contract) between an individual and a franchised dealer, and as such, does not require approval of the manufacturer. The manufacturer can become involved if the contract is not honored.
Second, this guy guessed MSRP would be low to mid $40's, not the under $40 bandied about here.
Third, he wanted a 5% markup over MSRP, whatever that turns out to be -- the markup is in the written contract. This, of course, is on top of the 10-11% markup they already get, the difference between dealer cost and MSRP, wholesale and retail.
Paying a markup of 15-16% is a deal-breaker for me. A final total cost of close to $50k (fees, license, taxes, options) is also a deal breaker. I just won't do it -- it's a matter of value.
They're just taking advantage pure and simple. Let them find some other sucker. As I see it, the car is worth, total price, around $40k, give or take $2-3k, max. Put another way, I'm willing to pay no more than $15k over what I paid for my GT Premium, loaded, or around a $45k total take-home price, loaded.
To keep some perspective, for $50k you can get TWO V6 Mustangs. For a little more than $50k you can get a C6.
Barrett-Jackson
Me, personally, if I were to spend $75k on a car, it would be on a Z06, not a souped-up Mustang.
There's a reason that GT was still sitting feet away from you......the $99,999 dealer markup.
GT's are now going for MSRP. I'm sure when they were first released (and demand exceeded supply) there were a few lottery winners that DID plunk down close to 1/4M for a GT. No longer.
Same holds true for the GT500. I'm sure when that thing first hits the ground, there will be a few individuals who spend $75k on it. Don't be amoung them.
But I would predict that within a year, prices will be back to MSRP.
you can get GTs under MSRP now; it should be the same for the Cobra about a year after first year prodo
Second, OK, I admit, I've been bitten by the Mustang bug. When the Cobra finally comes rolling out, I'll be there sniffing, looking, thinking of buying. I want that power. :shades:
Hopefully most of this info is correct.