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2007 Hyundai Elantra

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  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    as long as something gets here it will be cool. There is a post in the rabbit forums that lead to a german comparo of the mazda 3, golf and kia ceed. If the elantra hatch/wagon looks anything like that, but with more hyundai styling, i will definitely check it out.
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    Automotive News reported today that the Elantra Wagon (i30) would be arriving in early 2008 in the US.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,826
    Do you mean literally a wagon, or the 5-door hatchback that was revealed in photos earlier in Town Hall? To me there isn't much difference, but I know some people distinguish between wagons and hatchbacks.
  • tenpin288tenpin288 Posts: 804
    Here's a link with some info and a pic:

    2008 Elantra Wagon ;)
  • moparbadmoparbad Posts: 3,842
    The report was for the wagon.
    I was hoping the wagon would arrive, though I really would like to see the hatch and the wagon.
  • Based on those Elantra 5dr photos from the prior post, Saturn shouldn't bother bringing over the Astra. The Elantra has it beat, and I'm betting it'll be cheaper too.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,826
    There's not a big difference between the two that I can see, other than the wagon is a few inches longer in back, with a larger (and more practical) window behind the C-pillar. Probably holds more cargo than the hatch also, so that's OK with me. But I am disappointed in the powertrain choices--looks like the same as on the sedan. No six-speed stick, or larger engine option such as the 2.4L I4 from the Sonata and Optima.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,850
    It looks something in between a hatch and a wagon and leaning far more towards a wagon. Well I can say that I am glad that Hyundai is bring back the wagon.

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

  • Yeah, sad to still see the same powertrain. But as long as that powertrain's still offered in the much heavier Tucson (acceleration must be *awful*, but I've never seen any actual numbers), I don't see much hope for getting any powertrains updated anytime soon. The Tucson especially is just begging for the 2.4L/5-speed auto. It'd be nice if this wagon came with the new 158hp 2.0L at the very least...how come we haven't seen those new 1.8/2.0's in any Hyundai products yet?
  • mike91326mike91326 SoCalPosts: 245
    I think that Hyundai is being smart holding back on the new powertrain for a year or so. Let Dodge and Mitsu get any bugs out before Hyundai puts them into production. I would also like to see Hyundai go with the CVT and get rid of the 4-speed auto.
  • mirde98mirde98 Posts: 95
    Hey guys here is an interesting link on the new GEMA Global Engines co-developed by Daimler-Chrysler, Hyundai and Mitsubishi.

    http://www.gemaengine.com
  • joe131joe131 Posts: 972
    A station wagon has a flat cargo floor that can be extended forward by folding the second row seats down and farther back by folding the tailgate down. A wagon does not have a one piece hatch door that opens from top mounted hinges. A station wagon has quarter panels that extend backwards from the rear wheel opening at least a distance equal to the diameter of the rear tire.
    The cars not meeting the requirements are either sedans or hatchbacks, NOT station wagons.
  • tmporttmport Posts: 19
    This is a question for anyone with an Elantra GLS: does it come with a trip odometer? I know you have to get the SE or Limited for the multi-function trip computer, but does the base GLS come with a regular old trip odometer?
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,469
    I don't think you can get a car that does not have a trip odometer.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,850
    Do you have anything official (a link to it might be nice) to back this up or is it just your opinion?

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,826
    I don't know ANY wagons these days on which the tailgate folds down in order to extend the load floor. For example, the E Class wagon's back door has a one-piece hatch door. If the E Class wagon isn't a wagon, I don't know what is. And there are some hatchbacks, such as the '01-'06 Elantra hatch, that has long rear quarter panels--as long as on the sedan. But I sure wouldn't call it a wagon. I do agree that a wagon tends to have longer rear quarter panels than a hatchback, in general, because wagons tend to be built on (extended) sedan platforms, while hatches are usually on shorter platforms. Also I think another distinction is that wagons tend to have a squared-off back, although many hatches are kind of boxy too, and there are some wagons (like the E Class) that are pretty streamlined.

    Here's what ol' Wikipedia says about (station) wagons:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Station_wagon
  • joe131joe131 Posts: 972
    Wikipedia is just a collection of individuals' opinions. Did you know that?
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,850
    I think another distinction is that wagons tend to have a squared-off back,

    I think the one way to tell the difference between a hatch and a wagon is the presence of a side window behind the back seat. Compare the Elantra Hatchback with the Elantra wagon for an example.

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    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    Dimensions aside there still seems to resistance to marketing "hatchbacks" in the US. Hence, "sport wagon" and other terminology. I have one of the first 01 Elantra GT hatches---so rare it has ABS and Traction Control. I am waiting for the next generation to appear. For me, either configuration would be fine. I've come to the point where I really appreciate flexibility in cars, especially in putting large objects in the rear. No more sedans for me.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,850
    The Elantra hatchback only offers a minor increase in what you can fit into it over the sedan. I bet you that I can fit things in my '00 Elantra wagon that won't in your Hatchback.

    If cargo space is what you want a wagon is much better any day than a hatch.

    2008 Sebring Ragtop, 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,826
    No, I didn't know that... because I don't think it is an accurate portrayal of Wikipedia.

    What is the source of your definition of "wagon"? Or is it an opinion?
  • joe131joe131 Posts: 972
    yeah, anyone can post or change an article there.
    All they or anyone else have are opinions. Just because a person can point to an article that spews the same opinion does not make it any more true.
  • joe97joe97 Posts: 2,248
    Except Hyundai's (Theta) engine is at Hyundai's own plants. Further, the building blocks and cylinder head are designed by Hyundai, and the automaker is receiving loyalties.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,826
    Maybe you should post your opinion about "what is a wagon?" on Wikipedia then, to set everyone straight. ;)

    If you are waiting for Hyundai or anyone else to offer a wagon with a drop-down tailgate, ala the Family Trucksters of yore, I think you are in for a long wait. I think there is one SUV out there that has a pull-out shelf of some kind, but I can't remember which one it is. SUVs have become the wagons of today--which is why there are so few wagons out there I think. Maybe people think, if I am going to get a car that looks like a big box, it might as well be a TALL box so I can hold more stuff.
  • mickeyrommickeyrom Posts: 936
    As far as I'm concerned,if it looks like a wagon,it is a wagon.Thats regardless whether the back door hinges on the top or the bottom.
  • bhmr59bhmr59 Posts: 1,601
    That's just your OPINION.
  • joe131joe131 Posts: 972
    You may have missed my point entirely.
    Just because something is stated on Wickipedia does not mean it should be considered true or even persuasive.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,826
    That can be said for ANY source of information and opinions... including Town Hall. But I don't understand the issue with citing an independent reference as part of this discussion of whether the upcoming Elantra 5-door is a "wagon" or not. At least, I think that is the discussion... Anyway, if you don't like Wikipedia for some reason, fine; feel free to ignore it or cite whatever references you want.
  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    I agree with you that a wagon will hold more. My Forester will definitely handle more types of packages than my Elantra GT. However, I think a hatch has it all over a sedan because you are not constricted by the back shelf being fixed or by a limited opening when the rear seats are down. The SUV with the slide out load floor may be the Dodge Nitro. That could be its only redeeming feature though.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    i've always thought that a hatchback or wagon was determined by how long it is.(cargo area that is)

    Just for references: the rabbit is a hatch version of the jetta, the sportwagen is a wagon version of the jetta.

    The only difference proportion wise is how long the cargo area is.
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